Gaza War, Part 3

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Kindness of Israel!!!!

Did you consider a career in standup comedy?


Yes, removing Hamas from power in Gaza (at great risk to themselves) is a deep kindness.

Israel could have just nuked Gaza and ended the war much faster, but instead they are going on month 5 of a ground invasion, putting their brave IDF troops at great risk, all in order to protect the innocent Palestinians. That is a kindness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






But you're not seeing a Part III 700 page thread expressing sympathy with the Rohingya because there's no way to twist things to blame Jews for their problems.

Ultimately, this is a hot topic here in your life because Russian, Chinese, and Islamist propagandists (and their many useful idiot friends among our local pro-Marxists) are taking advantage of foundational antipathy toward Jews to create a false, simplistic good/evil binary that serves their own political interests. The theme of Jew hatred as a virtue runs 2000 years deep in Western culture and gets activated in troubled times to redirect popular frustration away from actual problems and toward the world's oldest scapegoats. Antisemitism is not a social prejudice. It is a conspiracy theory that holds you had better destroy the Jews because they have become too powerful and will hurt you if you don't hurt them first. Jew hatred is always framed as "punching up," and is always described as virtuous.


OMFG, your obsession with these eternal victim fairytales is nauseating. Everyone is out to get you. It’s not your actions that others have a problem with, god no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Kindness of Israel!!!!

Did you consider a career in standup comedy?


Yes, removing Hamas from power in Gaza (at great risk to themselves) is a deep kindness.

Israel could have just nuked Gaza and ended the war much faster, but instead they are going on month 5 of a ground invasion, putting their brave IDF troops at great risk, all in order to protect the innocent Palestinians. That is a kindness.


Nazi mentality right here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Heyyyy! Tell me: did god personally literally gave you this land?



You realize how anti-Semitic this “joke” is?

The Jewish Bible clearly outlines that their God was highly influential in the founding and establishment of Israel as a Jewish State in the ancient times. Jewish people do generally believe that God provided Israel to them after seeing the suffering and horrors they went through as a primarily nomadic people, as a place to settle and to build prosperity and security.

So no, we don’t believe that God “personally literally” handed Israel to us, but we do believe that Israel was provided to our people (as a whole) partially through acts of God, and we do believe that God intends Israel to be a land where Jews can be free, and can prosper alongside our Arab brothers and sisters. Attacking Jews based on these beliefs are no different then attacking Christians on their belief that Jesus, “personally literally” came back from the dead to ‘save’ all Christians from going to hell. Obviously, as a Jew I personally find that story to be questionable, but I would never use it as a sick attack against every Christian who did not agree with the crazy, extremist viewpoint I theoretically was espousing about, for example, how a genocidal group of atheists dead set on killing every Christian in the world were actually the good guys.



DP. It’s not anti-semitic to dismiss Jewish fairytales related to divine land grants, burning bushes, epic flooding, and being chosen among all others, etc. It’s not even anti-semitic to mercilessly mock Jewish people for believing those fairytales, for believing that they are exceptional above others, or callously arguing that the ends (their land theft to form Israel) justify the means (a prolonged Palestinian genocide).

Own your sins, sinner. We all have to. It’s just that your sins are heinous and despicable on a scale that most civilized people cannot even fathom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Kindness of Israel!!!!

Did you consider a career in standup comedy?


Yes, removing Hamas from power in Gaza (at great risk to themselves) is a deep kindness.

Israel could have just nuked Gaza and ended the war much faster, but instead they are going on month 5 of a ground invasion, putting their brave IDF troops at great risk, all in order to protect the innocent Palestinians. That is a kindness.


I see someone needs a third-grade level primer on how nuclear radiation spreads. Maybe that’s the reason the IDF bra and panty brigade hasn’t done it, don’t u think? Or maybe not. The intellectual bloom is clearly off the rose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Kindness of Israel!!!!

Did you consider a career in standup comedy?


Yes, removing Hamas from power in Gaza (at great risk to themselves) is a deep kindness.

Israel could have just nuked Gaza and ended the war much faster, but instead they are going on month 5 of a ground invasion, putting their brave IDF troops at great risk, all in order to protect the innocent Palestinians. That is a kindness.


You cannot argue with brainwashed mentally ill religous fanatics.

They are evil. Full stop. Evil

After 2700 pages i change my vote to Israel does not have a right to exist if it cant operate within basic global humanitarian boundaries.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Heyyyy! Tell me: did god personally literally gave you this land?



You realize how anti-Semitic this “joke” is?

The Jewish Bible clearly outlines that their God was highly influential in the founding and establishment of Israel as a Jewish State in the ancient times. Jewish people do generally believe that God provided Israel to them after seeing the suffering and horrors they went through as a primarily nomadic people, as a place to settle and to build prosperity and security.

So no, we don’t believe that God “personally literally” handed Israel to us, but we do believe that Israel was provided to our people (as a whole) partially through acts of God, and we do believe that God intends Israel to be a land where Jews can be free, and can prosper alongside our Arab brothers and sisters. Attacking Jews based on these beliefs are no different then attacking Christians on their belief that Jesus, “personally literally” came back from the dead to ‘save’ all Christians from going to hell. Obviously, as a Jew I personally find that story to be questionable, but I would never use it as a sick attack against every Christian who did not agree with the crazy, extremist viewpoint I theoretically was espousing about, for example, how a genocidal group of atheists dead set on killing every Christian in the world were actually the good guys.



lol that’s exactly why the land grab in the West Bank and the wet dreams of Gaza settlement continue. So Jews can prosper next to their Arab brothers who they just tossed out from the land or put in prison. Just awesome unbelievable prosperity but what can you do when god literally personally says the land is yours?
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Why hasn’t Israel been able to get itself off U.S. welfare after all these years?


Netanyahu called for that 30 years ago in an address to Congess. But the State Department and US foreign aid bureaucracy was not interested in reducing spending.
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Because Hamas hides behind civilians.
Launching rockets from schools and hospitals.
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Anonymous wrote:Because Hamas hides behind civilians.
Launching rockets from schools and hospitals.

Crazy. 168 days in and hamas is still in control like on oct 6th? Where is your critical thinking?!
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Anonymous wrote:
Why hasn’t Israel been able to get itself off U.S. welfare after all these years?


Netanyahu called for that 30 years ago in an address to Congess. But the State Department and US foreign aid bureaucracy was not interested in reducing spending.


lol he can just not take the money, you know?
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Anonymous wrote:
Why hasn’t Israel been able to get itself off U.S. welfare after all these years?


Netanyahu called for that 30 years ago in an address to Congess. But the State Department and US foreign aid bureaucracy was not interested in reducing spending.


Ha! We just keep forcing the money and weapons and training and U.N. obstruction on Israel, is that right? Victims of the U.S. now, too? Well, you completed your fake victimhood Bingo card I guess, regardless what your card shows because you've pointed your finger at LITERALLY every one and every nation now.

Poor Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:Because Hamas hides behind civilians.
Launching rockets from schools and hospitals.

Crazy. 168 days in and hamas is still in control like on oct 6th? Where is your critical thinking?!



Israel has not gone through all of Gaza. And Biden(and many on here) is telling Israel not to go into the rest of Gaza to wipe out Hamas.
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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Myanmar is only relevant in this thread in terms of explaining why claims of "antisemitism" make no more sense than claims of "anti-Buddhism" would if applied to Myanmar. The problem is not Israel's Jewishness or Myanmar's embrace of Theravada Buddhism. The problem is that the governments of both these states are doing terrible things. The religion of the majority in both states is irrelevant and should not be used to deflect from crimes against humanity or to intimidate critics thereof. It is illogical and malicious to accuse people of religious bigotry when their concern is so clearly about state-sponsored terror.

Negotiations are not stalling over the release of hostages but over issues such as who will govern the Gaza Strip when this is over.
The Palestinian perspective, which I and many others share, is that Israel stole their land by force. Looking at the history of the region, it's hard to avoid concluding that the Palestinians have been dealt a grave injustice. The Nakba certainly meets the criteria for ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians and probably also for genocide.

Do you think it is "antisemitic" to assume people in JVP are unable to analyze the situation and make decisions for themselves? You seem to hold deplorable opinions about these Jews. Many young people, including young Jews, see Zionism as offensively racist. The percentage of Jews who support Israel is much lower than the 99.9% you claim. A recent Pew survey showed that 45% of Jewish adults in the U.S. consider support for Israel essential to being Jewish; 37% said it was important but not essential; 16% said it was unimportant. Equality for all is incompatible with the concept of group supremacy, so I would expect support for Israel to decrease as people learn more about the situation.


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Anonymous wrote:Because Hamas hides behind civilians.
Launching rockets from schools and hospitals.

How do you accept the killing of literally thousands of infants, children, and teens while the inept IDF and corrupt regime of Netanyahu and his racist cronies continue a fruitless search for Hamas militants? Why do you think you feel so comfortable accepting Netanyahu's strategy of starving hundreds of thousands of children to death? To justify the withholding of water and food necessary for the sustaining of life?
Pro-Israeli Jews seem to find thousands and thousands innocent Palestinian children to be acceptable as whipping boys for the sins of Hamas. It's eerily like the "celebration" of Passover - the willingness to justify the slaughter innocent non-Israelite children as part of the survival of Israel.
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