Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:As of today, where do the Saudis stand on this bullshiat?


Theyre doing the only thing they can do: spending money. Saudis pledged 40 million to UNRWA today so I’m guessing Israel won’t be happy about this. Not sure why because UNRWA gives Gazans a day after with some sort of stability: schooling, food, water, medicine, jobs . Israel should be happy for them. WithIt that, their security would be worse imo

Saudis are still standing by their intel that Sinwar is in Egypt and he left months ago through a tunnel . I wouldn’t be surprised if this is true.

Gaza is very small. If Israel can’t find him by now, he’s either not there or dead /playing dead



Israel wants to end funding support and world wide legitimacy for UNRWA because, since 1948, UNWRA provides a lifeline of health care, education, housing and food support for the Palestinian people and it is Israel's long term goal to exterminate the Palestinian people.

This is why Israel and supporters of Israel in the USA have always refused to support UNICEF for the same reason.

Let that sink in.

Israel doesn't want a peaceful neighbor in the Palestinians. Israel wants NO neighbor.


Evidence of UNRWA's complicity with Hamas keeps turning up. Just as Al Shifa hospital turned out to be a base of operations for Hamas. Seems the truth and reality are biased against Hamas.


The traveling base of operations just turns up anywhere IDF wants doesn’t it?


You're a special kind of stupid. They captured high-ranking Hamas and Islamic Jihad commanders at Al Shifa. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-793118 Yet here you are pretending it's all just some kind of IDF make-believe. Goes along with all of your other delusions, like "the Jewish exodus is a fairy tale."


lol no one was captured. The only thing that happened was a bunch of innocent helpless civilians were killed. This is all part of Israel’s campaign of terror and war crimes. Israel’s final solution.


There are numerous credible sources saying otherwise, that senior Hamas operatives were in fact killed or captured. You're lying and/or deranged, and you only make the pro-Palestinian cause look all the more delusional and dishonest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As of today, where do the Saudis stand on this bullshiat?


Theyre doing the only thing they can do: spending money. Saudis pledged 40 million to UNRWA today so I’m guessing Israel won’t be happy about this. Not sure why because UNRWA gives Gazans a day after with some sort of stability: schooling, food, water, medicine, jobs . Israel should be happy for them. WithIt that, their security would be worse imo

Saudis are still standing by their intel that Sinwar is in Egypt and he left months ago through a tunnel . I wouldn’t be surprised if this is true.

Gaza is very small. If Israel can’t find him by now, he’s either not there or dead /playing dead



Israel wants to end funding support and world wide legitimacy for UNRWA because, since 1948, UNWRA provides a lifeline of health care, education, housing and food support for the Palestinian people and it is Israel's long term goal to exterminate the Palestinian people.

This is why Israel and supporters of Israel in the USA have always refused to support UNICEF for the same reason.

Let that sink in.

Israel doesn't want a peaceful neighbor in the Palestinians. Israel wants NO neighbor.


Evidence of UNRWA's complicity with Hamas keeps turning up. Just as Al Shifa hospital turned out to be a base of operations for Hamas. Seems the truth and reality are biased against Hamas.


The traveling base of operations just turns up anywhere IDF wants doesn’t it?


You're a special kind of stupid. They captured high-ranking Hamas and Islamic Jihad commanders at Al Shifa. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-793118 Yet here you are pretending it's all just some kind of IDF make-believe. Goes along with all of your other delusions, like "the Jewish exodus is a fairy tale."


lol no one was captured. The only thing that happened was a bunch of innocent helpless civilians were killed. This is all part of Israel’s campaign of terror and war crimes. Israel’s final solution.


There are numerous credible sources saying otherwise, that senior Hamas operatives were in fact killed or captured. You're lying and/or deranged, and you only make the pro-Palestinian cause look all the more delusional and dishonest.


By the IDF bra and panty brigade? lol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As of today, where do the Saudis stand on this bullshiat?


Theyre doing the only thing they can do: spending money. Saudis pledged 40 million to UNRWA today so I’m guessing Israel won’t be happy about this. Not sure why because UNRWA gives Gazans a day after with some sort of stability: schooling, food, water, medicine, jobs . Israel should be happy for them. WithIt that, their security would be worse imo

Saudis are still standing by their intel that Sinwar is in Egypt and he left months ago through a tunnel . I wouldn’t be surprised if this is true.

Gaza is very small. If Israel can’t find him by now, he’s either not there or dead /playing dead



Israel wants to end funding support and world wide legitimacy for UNRWA because, since 1948, UNWRA provides a lifeline of health care, education, housing and food support for the Palestinian people and it is Israel's long term goal to exterminate the Palestinian people.

This is why Israel and supporters of Israel in the USA have always refused to support UNICEF for the same reason.

Let that sink in.

Israel doesn't want a peaceful neighbor in the Palestinians. Israel wants NO neighbor.


Evidence of UNRWA's complicity with Hamas keeps turning up. Just as Al Shifa hospital turned out to be a base of operations for Hamas. Seems the truth and reality are biased against Hamas.


The traveling base of operations just turns up anywhere IDF wants doesn’t it?


Hahaha! They are so accustomed to naive people just taking them at their word, but the streaming age has revealed them to be the shitty, serial liars we always suspected then to be.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.


1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.


1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.


1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”


Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel



Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.


Why hasn’t Israel been able to get itself off U.S. welfare after all these years?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As of today, where do the Saudis stand on this bullshiat?


Theyre doing the only thing they can do: spending money. Saudis pledged 40 million to UNRWA today so I’m guessing Israel won’t be happy about this. Not sure why because UNRWA gives Gazans a day after with some sort of stability: schooling, food, water, medicine, jobs . Israel should be happy for them. WithIt that, their security would be worse imo

Saudis are still standing by their intel that Sinwar is in Egypt and he left months ago through a tunnel . I wouldn’t be surprised if this is true.

Gaza is very small. If Israel can’t find him by now, he’s either not there or dead /playing dead



Israel wants to end funding support and world wide legitimacy for UNRWA because, since 1948, UNWRA provides a lifeline of health care, education, housing and food support for the Palestinian people and it is Israel's long term goal to exterminate the Palestinian people.

This is why Israel and supporters of Israel in the USA have always refused to support UNICEF for the same reason.

Let that sink in.

Israel doesn't want a peaceful neighbor in the Palestinians. Israel wants NO neighbor.


Evidence of UNRWA's complicity with Hamas keeps turning up. Just as Al Shifa hospital turned out to be a base of operations for Hamas. Seems the truth and reality are biased against Hamas.


The traveling base of operations just turns up anywhere IDF wants doesn’t it?


You're a special kind of stupid. They captured high-ranking Hamas and Islamic Jihad commanders at Al Shifa. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-793118 Yet here you are pretending it's all just some kind of IDF make-believe. Goes along with all of your other delusions, like "the Jewish exodus is a fairy tale."


lol no one was captured. The only thing that happened was a bunch of innocent helpless civilians were killed. This is all part of Israel’s campaign of terror and war crimes. Israel’s final solution.


There are numerous credible sources saying otherwise, that senior Hamas operatives were in fact killed or captured. You're lying and/or deranged, and you only make the pro-Palestinian cause look all the more delusional and dishonest.


Any sources not Israeli? No. So let’s just take this as typical Israel propaganda to provide cover for war crimes. You religious zealots will lie about anything as long as you can continue to kill women and children. What a bunch of Nazi.
Anonymous
You’re so cool! You call Israelis Nazis. You’re so knowledgeable! From your desk in Chevy Chase. Or Russia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You’re so cool! You call Israelis Nazis. You’re so knowledgeable! From your desk in Chevy Chase. Or Russia.


Indeed, not all Israelis are Nazis. There are Orthodox Jewish Israelis and progressive Israelis who strongly oppose Zionism and the creation of Israel, even though they may currently reside there. Unfortunately, though, the Israeli government is fascist and has several criteria in common with Nazism. It's built on a belief in ethnic supremacy and racial entitlement. Interfaith marriages are banned in Israel, which underscores the racist nature of the government. Similarly, Nazi Germany passed laws forbidding intermarriage between Jews and "Aryans." In both cases, these laws are designed to preserve "the racial purity" of the privileged ethnic group. Both the Zionist government and the Nazis abuse(d) a despised ethnic group that is held in contempt. Both consider(ed) plans to relocate these "inconvenient" people. One genocided them in the death camps; the other genocides them in the Gaza Strip. Both have aggressively seized Lebensraum; one continues to do so (Israel just seized 800 hectares of land in the West Bank and declared it "state land"). Both limit(ed) free speech and use(d) state violence to suppress dissent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






But you're not seeing a Part III 700 page thread expressing sympathy with the Rohingya because there's no way to twist things to blame Jews for their problems.

Ultimately, this is a hot topic here in your life because Russian, Chinese, and Islamist propagandists (and their many useful idiot friends among our local pro-Marxists) are taking advantage of foundational antipathy toward Jews to create a false, simplistic good/evil binary that serves their own political interests. The theme of Jew hatred as a virtue runs 2000 years deep in Western culture and gets activated in troubled times to redirect popular frustration away from actual problems and toward the world's oldest scapegoats. Antisemitism is not a social prejudice. It is a conspiracy theory that holds you had better destroy the Jews because they have become too powerful and will hurt you if you don't hurt them first. Jew hatred is always framed as "punching up," and is always described as virtuous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Heyyyy! Tell me: did god personally literally gave you this land?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’re so cool! You call Israelis Nazis. You’re so knowledgeable! From your desk in Chevy Chase. Or Russia.


Indeed, not all Israelis are Nazis. There are Orthodox Jewish Israelis and progressive Israelis who strongly oppose Zionism and the creation of Israel, even though they may currently reside there. Unfortunately, though, the Israeli government is fascist and has several criteria in common with Nazism. It's built on a belief in ethnic supremacy and racial entitlement. Interfaith marriages are banned in Israel, which underscores the racist nature of the government. Similarly, Nazi Germany passed laws forbidding intermarriage between Jews and "Aryans." In both cases, these laws are designed to preserve "the racial purity" of the privileged ethnic group. Both the Zionist government and the Nazis abuse(d) a despised ethnic group that is held in contempt. Both consider(ed) plans to relocate these "inconvenient" people. One genocided them in the death camps; the other genocides them in the Gaza Strip. Both have aggressively seized Lebensraum; one continues to do so (Israel just seized 800 hectares of land in the West Bank and declared it "state land"). Both limit(ed) free speech and use(d) state violence to suppress dissent.


You see absolutely no irony in calling Jewish people Nazis, as they defend their Country against the largest genocide they have faced since the Holocaust, and are increasingly facing more and more international anti-Semitic forces pushing against the safety of the global Jewish population and their own inalienable right to sovereignty, including a United Nations that has formed a clear and inarguable alliance with the Hamas militants that are conducting the ongoing genocidal actions against Jews.

This is a war that has gone global. You either support Israel and Jews basic right to exist, or you support Hamas. You have made your decision, I hope you can live with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Kindness of Israel!!!!

Did you consider a career in standup comedy?
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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.


These accusations of antisemitism are malicious, disingenuous, and highly illogical. They are equivalent to saying that anyone who expresses solidarity with the Rohingya must be "anti-Buddhist." The ignorance behind such a claim is apparent when you consider that most Burmese people are Theravada Buddhists (the official state religion of Myanmar), so an "anti-Buddhist" accusation would include millions of people outside this specific group. Also, there are many Buddhists, Theravada and otherwise, who do not support the Myanmar government's crimes against humanity. Obviously, the accusation would not make sense. As well as ignorant, such an accusation would be uncharitable. It would accuse good-hearted humanitarians of irrationally hating all Buddhists when their major concern is with the way Myanmar treats the Rohingya, and their secondary concern is with the Myanmar government's supremacist policies. You get into a similar mess if you define support for Palestinians and concern about Israel's ethnic dominance as "antisemitic."

There is nothing antisemitic about expressing solidarity with the Palestinians, especially while they are being slaughtered en masse, starved to death, and denied access to healthcare, basic sanitation, and education! Increasingly, Jews, and especially younger Jews, are expressing the same sentiments. One of the most vocal and active anti-Zionist groups on college campuses is Jewish Voice for Peace. These young people are calling for a ceasefire, a free Palestine, and an "intifada" (which is variously defined). Are you calling these Jews "antisemitic" when they are being truly authentic to their humanitarian and egalitarian values and beliefs?






We are not arguing over Myanmar. If you want to talk about Myanmar, you can start a new thread and I think we would be in agreement - the Government of Myanmar’s actions have been absolutely despicable on a level that is approaching the evil of Hamas/Palestinians.

If Hamas would release every last hostage, and surrender unconditionally, this war would be over. It is Hamas and Palestinians dragging out this war with their continued attempts at genocide against the global Jewish population, not Israel executing their right to defend their nation and people against these acts of genocide. The only people to blame for any supposed tragedy in Gaza is Hamas - the democratically elected government of the independent Gaza’s State that has built their headquarters in hospitals and schools, stolen billions of dollars of aid intended for their civilian population through their alliance with the UNRWA, The Red Crescent, and other crooked “humanitarian” organizations, and has continued to call for the global genocide of the Jewish people. They hold blame for any Gaza’s killed as a result of their campaign of hate, and this war cannot end until Gazans recognize this and welcome the stability and kindness of Israel.

And no, 99.9% of Jewish people support Israel, and love Israel. It is our ancestral home, and we dream of one day being able to live there once again. Terrorist pro-Hamas organizations like “Jewish” Voice for Peace are little more then shams put together by Hamas and Hamas affiliated individuals to sow discord and propaganda and to pretend you could be Jewish without supporting Israel. If “Jewish” Voice for Peace actually cared about peace, they would be championing the Israeli cause, and bringing in IDF heroes to speak on how their mission of liberation in Gaza, not convicted Hamas terrorists: https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voice-for-peace-to-host-convicted-terrorist-at-confab/amp/.



Heyyyy! Tell me: did god personally literally gave you this land?



You realize how anti-Semitic this “joke” is?

The Jewish Bible clearly outlines that their God was highly influential in the founding and establishment of Israel as a Jewish State in the ancient times. Jewish people do generally believe that God provided Israel to them after seeing the suffering and horrors they went through as a primarily nomadic people, as a place to settle and to build prosperity and security.

So no, we don’t believe that God “personally literally” handed Israel to us, but we do believe that Israel was provided to our people (as a whole) partially through acts of God, and we do believe that God intends Israel to be a land where Jews can be free, and can prosper alongside our Arab brothers and sisters. Attacking Jews based on these beliefs are no different then attacking Christians on their belief that Jesus, “personally literally” came back from the dead to ‘save’ all Christians from going to hell. Obviously, as a Jew I personally find that story to be questionable, but I would never use it as a sick attack against every Christian who did not agree with the crazy, extremist viewpoint I theoretically was espousing about, for example, how a genocidal group of atheists dead set on killing every Christian in the world were actually the good guys.

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