Has a college ever challenged a race/ethnicity claim?

[Anonymous]

The latest thread on Hispanic as race v ethnicity and using distant lineage to claim it got me thinking - has a college ever challenged or rescinded admission based on a race claim? Can they even do that? Does checking Hispanic even help THAT much?

[Anonymous]

Penn tried to challenge a first-gen claim and got sued and dragged for it. Search the archives for “Fierceton” (or just Google it).

[Anonymous]

Yes they have. But it is done quietly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The latest thread on Hispanic as race v ethnicity and using distant lineage to claim it got me thinking - has a college ever challenged or rescinded admission based on a race claim? Can they even do that? Does checking Hispanic even help THAT much?

Doubt it. Since they claim 'holistic' BS on the admissions process (i.e. not directly based on race because it's illegal), how will they prove that your kid got in because you claimed he was Hispanic? Scholarships based on race (I think there are but not sure) may be rescinded. Also don't think it's a federal offense to lie about information that's essentially optional tp provide.

[Anonymous]

I think as long as your claim is tenuously linked to reality and not entirely made up, you could always defend your case if challenged. But I would have ethical issues with this.

[Anonymous]

They could call the high school and ask what race/ethnicity the student is registered as.

[Anonymous]

During admissions?They wouldn’t contact a student. They’d just reject them and move on.

I’m sure some of the state colleges have to deal with residency fraud, but who in their right mind is going to share that they were caught?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The latest thread on Hispanic as race v ethnicity and using distant lineage to claim it got me thinking - has a college ever challenged or rescinded admission based on a race claim? Can they even do that? Does checking Hispanic even help THAT much?

“Ever”? Yeah. When colleges could legally be racially segregated and whites only, it happened. Much of this was kept out of the press because the colleges wouldn’t want to openly acknowledge that they had made “mistakes “ like this — and actually admitted non-white students, and treated them as “white” — dining halls and dorms included.

And no, checking a box pretending to be an URM doesn’t help that much, although this obviously varies by school. For one, let’s say the class size is 1OOO. They’re really not going to admit 1000 URM students, no matter how stellar. So the reality is that you’ll be competing for a much smaller number of slots, and for the chance to win an all-things-being-equal tie-breaker. At least in the past, schools that cared about such things were looking for a diverse student body (on multiple levels) and students who might spread the benefits of their educations to wider communities. Just checking a box won’t show that. And checking a box without community commitments or a compelling story could easily hurt as much as it could help. (Two Hispanic students, same test scores. One got them despite challenges and obstacles. The other got them with quite a lot of support and many privileges— but not enough to donate a building, and isn’t even bilingual, or otherwise embedded in an URM community or culture. What’s your argument in favor of accepting that second student?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They could call the high school and ask what race/ethnicity the student is registered as.

No. This is discriminatory. Won't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes they have. But it is done quietly.

+1

I have seen a couple threads about checking a box that doesn't really apply to you - so stupid. Schools can and will and have thrown students out.

It is lying on your application. Period.

[Anonymous]

Colleges in red states are heading to separation by religion and race.

Florida will be first. Missouri second.

Florida DeSantis has already actually written his plan down, he has a formula and an outline and he will make it happen.

Wake up people that bumpy ride has just started and MAGA idiots will be crying and whinning uncontrollably about by mid 2024. They will be in poverty. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

No one has the time.

At our private I know kids (5+ years ago) who indicated they were not straight, struggled in school/life etc with limited role models only to go to Stanford and be straight now…

Same could be said for race. Everything is fluid. If there is some justified basis for your claim, then do it.

Until Supreme Ct strikes this down, there really aren’t other hood options.

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