So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

[Anonymous]

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bu they don't like Hardy mostly because of its small IB percentage, and any charter will likely have as many OOB kids. Who may not be better prepared then the OOB kids at the Hardy feeders that have been discussed above. So its not clear that it would be any more adequate as a substitute for Deal.

Charters don't have boundaries, the only OOB kids at charters are the residency cheaters from MD and VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

More kids who are in-boundary for Hardy attend Latin and Basis than Hardy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
bu they don't like Hardy mostly because of its small IB percentage, and any charter will likely have as many OOB kids. Who may not be better prepared then the OOB kids at the Hardy feeders that have been discussed above. So its not clear that it would be any more adequate as a substitute for Deal.

Charters don't have boundaries, the only OOB kids at charters are the residency cheaters from MD and VA.

I did not mean OOB for the charter, but OOB for Hardy. The school will have similar demographics to what Hardy has.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

More kids who are in-boundary for Hardy attend Latin and Basis than Hardy.

And growing numbers attend Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

More kids who are in-boundary for Hardy attend Latin and Basis than Hardy.

Not from my IB school.
A total of 4 kids (including those who left after 4th grade) are at Basis. 4 are at Latin (including those who left after 4th grade). 6 are at Hardy.

IB 5th grade mom, who is looking into Hardy as the best option so far for her 5th grader (and not only because is free. None of the private schools I have visited so far has impressed me, or do not look like a good fit. Only exception is WES, which looks like a very well-balanced school, but is far from where I live, and attends more to the MD families than DC. A DC family attending WES, extremely happy with it, confirmed they have become a shuttle service for their kids 7 days a week).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

More kids who are in-boundary for Hardy attend Latin and Basis than Hardy.

Not from my IB school.
A total of 4 kids (including those who left after 4th grade) are at Basis. 4 are at Latin (including those who left after 4th grade). 6 are at Hardy.

IB 5th grade mom, who is looking into Hardy as the best option so far for her 5th grader (and not only because is free. None of the private schools I have visited so far has impressed me, or do not look like a good fit. Only exception is WES, which looks like a very well-balanced school, but is far from where I live, and attends more to the MD families than DC. A DC family attending WES, extremely happy with it, confirmed they have become a shuttle service for their kids 7 days a week).

This is Horace Mann, right?
I believe it is, as I do recognize the numbers, though I have a smaller number for Washington Latin, only two girls, who left at the end of 4th grade. So at Horace Mann , from last year 5th grade, as far as I know we have:

6 at Hardy
4 at Basis
2 at Latin

A middle school charter in Ward 3 would not do any good service for parents who are unwilling to attend Hardy. They will not attend the charter either. There will just be disruption, and additional shipments of students travelling East to West in the morning and West to East in the afternoon. Not good for anyone.

Traffic in Ward 3 drops dramatically the day after schools close. Please stop Ward 3 school commuting congestion, we cannot take any more of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

I don't know about her but one candidate I will definitely not be voting for is Tricia Braun. She decilined to send her own child to Hardy. However, while a member on the boundary committee she decided that Hardy should be good enough for other Ward 3 families being moved out of Deal who, unlike Ms Braun, may not have private school as an available option. Talk about being clueless, arrogant and hypocritical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

I don't know about her but one candidate I will definitely not be voting for is Tricia Braun. She decilined to send her own child to Hardy. However, while a member on the boundary committee she decided that Hardy should be good enough for other Ward 3 families being moved out of Deal who, unlike Ms Braun, may not have private school as an available option. Talk about being clueless, arrogant and hypocritical.

which areas should she have voted to move out of Deal, and into which school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

I don't know about her but one candidate I will definitely not be voting for is Tricia Braun. She decilined to send her own child to Hardy. However, while a member on the boundary committee she decided that Hardy should be good enough for other Ward 3 families being moved out of Deal who, unlike Ms Braun, may not have private school as an available option. Talk about being clueless, arrogant and hypocritical.

She had reasons to decline sending her eldest kid to Hardy 2 years ago after having assessed the mess which had been created by DCPS with the sequence of 5 principals in 2 years!!! But she then became one of the most vocal and effective advocates for Hardy (she still has 2 young kids at Key ES), got in contact with feeder school PTAs and Hardy parents, and together they demanded and obtained a structured dialogue with DCPS and the school administration which lead to the strengthened academic offering we see today (honor classes, additional language , etc). Her efforts contributed to the creation of the existing network of families across feeder schools, which did not exist until one year ago, and was instrumental to the increased confidence among IB and feeder school families. Her agenda is one of full support to public schools (as Lilley's agenda is against them) and she is much more qualified candidate than Ruth Wattenberg .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

I don't know about her but one candidate I will definitely not be voting for is Tricia Braun. She decilined to send her own child to Hardy. However, while a member on the boundary committee she decided that Hardy should be good enough for other Ward 3 families being moved out of Deal who, unlike Ms Braun, may not have private school as an available option. Talk about being clueless, arrogant and hypocritical.

You have a flawed picture or you are speaking in bad faith: as anyone knows, all Ward 3 members (M. Frumin) tried to do their best to keep the feeding status of Ward 3 schools including Eaton and Oyster (initially moved to Cardozo) . However this was not enough to contrast the political pressures of the democratic mayoral candidate, Ms Bowser, to keep Deal feeding rights for her Ward 4 voter basin. At the end Eaton families have been redistricted, Shepherd and Bancroft in Ward 4 have not.

So blame Ms Bowser for your outcome, and her supporters in Ward 4, not Tricia Braun, who did her best but was an ant compared to forces that were at play in that process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

I don't know about her but one candidate I will definitely not be voting for is Tricia Braun. She decilined to send her own child to Hardy. However, while a member on the boundary committee she decided that Hardy should be good enough for other Ward 3 families being moved out of Deal who, unlike Ms Braun, may not have private school as an available option. Talk about being clueless, arrogant and hypocritical.

Eaton was moved out of Deal to keep room for Bowser's protectorate , Ward 4 and their schools, which will continue feeding into Deal despite being several miles away from it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
bu they don't like Hardy mostly because of its small IB percentage, and any charter will likely have as many OOB kids. Who may not be better prepared then the OOB kids at the Hardy feeders that have been discussed above. So its not clear that it would be any more adequate as a substitute for Deal.

Charters don't have boundaries, the only OOB kids at charters are the residency cheaters from MD and VA.

I did not mean OOB for the charter, but OOB for Hardy. The school will have similar demographics to what Hardy has.

Query whether a high-OOB charter not far from Hardy might actually cause Hardy to skew more IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

I don't know about her but one candidate I will definitely not be voting for is Tricia Braun. She decilined to send her own child to Hardy. However, while a member on the boundary committee she decided that Hardy should be good enough for other Ward 3 families being moved out of Deal who, unlike Ms Braun, may not have private school as an available option. Talk about being clueless, arrogant and hypocritical.

You have a flawed picture or you are speaking in bad faith: as anyone knows, all Ward 3 members (M. Frumin) tried to do their best to keep the feeding status of Ward 3 schools including Eaton and Oyster (initially moved to Cardozo) . However this was not enough to contrast the political pressures of the democratic mayoral candidate, Ms Bowser, to keep Deal feeding rights for her Ward 4 voter basin. At the end Eaton families have been redistricted, Shepherd and Bancroft in Ward 4 have not.

So blame Ms Bowser for your outcome, and her supporters in Ward 4, not Tricia Braun, who did her best but was an ant compared to forces that were at play in that process.

Let's put it this way: Mr Catania has very strong support in the Eaton community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

More kids who are in-boundary for Hardy attend Latin and Basis than Hardy.

And growing numbers attend Hardy.

So they say, but Hardy won't release the actual numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not send their kids to Hardy won't send their kids to the NW charter middle school either. Charters won't have neighborhood preferences. The lottery mechanism will skew the school student body towards a larger OOB population more than Hardy's. Applications from OOB will be huge, due to parents perception of NW as a safer area. The final result will be just an additional traffic source for an area of the city already badly affected by school-induced traffic from nearby areas and from Virginia and Maryland dropping their kids to the DC private schools.

This is just political propaganda by Stephanie Lilley, Ward 3 candidate to the School Board of Education, and strong proponent of the privatization and charterisation of the DC school system. Good luck with her.

More kids who are in-boundary for Hardy attend Latin and Basis than Hardy.

And growing numbers attend Hardy.

So they say, but Hardy won't release the actual numbers.

the numbers will be published before people make enrollment decisions in 2015 - what gain do you think they get by delaying a few months? Changing lottery behavior? I think the explanation that focusing on IB would piss off some parents is more reasonable.