Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

Yes, you've persuaded me. Everything about the Common Core is bad. Including things that have nothing to do with the Common Core. Even the words "a" and "the" are bad, when they appear in the Common Core standards. Proper planning would have prevented their appearance, and it's impossible to implement them properly. My proof? There is an 'a' in Holocaust. Whose fault is that? Follow the money. (Hint: Arne also starts with an 'a'.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like Common core, but this mess about the holocaust denial has nothing to do with it.

When a district states the paper was to meet common core standards, you have an issue. Clearly, the district didn't understand Common Core. Why is that?

Beats me. But clearly it should be re-written. What do you think it should be changed to? How about- write an argumentative essay on an appropriate, non-controversial topic rooted in logic. Do you think that's full-proof? But then, what's "appropriate" to one person may not be to another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Problem is: in the DC area, there may be cause to be concerned about flooding in your basement. Nevada, not so much. So, why do Nevadans have to plan for flooding in the basement just because DC says so?

Can you point to a CC learning standard that you think Nevadan children should not learn because it's not necessary in Nevada? Otherwise your argument makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

The discussion was in response to the poster who thinks we need a national curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The discussion was in response to the poster who thinks we need a national curriculum.

We are now on p. 75 of this thread. I think you're going to have to be more specific about which poster and when they said it.

[Anonymous]

Today: 12:25

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today: 12:25

Here is 12:25

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it certainly would be harder to remove a Holocaust-denial assignment from the national curriculum, if there were a national curriculum with a Holocaust-denial assignment in it, which not only there isn't, but there never would be.

The PP is right -- this is actually an argument FOR a national curriculum, not against one.

You interpret this as "we need a national curriculum"? How about that.

[Anonymous]

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Wrong. My basement flooded last week when it rained because the federal government is involved in stormwater management, and it doesn't say anything in the Constitution about stormwater management. But we have become inured to these unconstitutional federal activities, because of the Common Core. Don't believe me? Follow the money.

+1,000

Get the federal government out of stormwater management. These things should be handled at the local level. Follow the money, baby! Also, Obamacare.

[Anonymous]

Get the federal government out of stormwater management. These things should be handled at the local level. Follow the money, baby! Also, Obamacare.
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+1000

[Anonymous]

Damn straight!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Problem is: in the DC area, there may be cause to be concerned about flooding in your basement. Nevada, not so much. So, why do Nevadans have to plan for flooding in the basement just because DC says so?

Exactly. You have just made the case for why schools are best run on a state and local level, not tied to the Feds and Federal funding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you've persuaded me. Everything about the Common Core is bad. Including things that have nothing to do with the Common Core. Even the words "a" and "the" are bad, when they appear in the Common Core standards. Proper planning would have prevented their appearance, and it's impossible to implement them properly. My proof? There is an 'a' in Holocaust. Whose fault is that? Follow the money. (Hint: Arne also starts with an 'a'.)

Just asking you to delve deeper. It seems fine on the surface. So did Obamacare. Everyone gets insurance - yay. As proven, the devil is in the details

[Anonymous]

Yes, you've persuaded me. Everything about the Common Core is bad. Including things that have nothing to do with the Common Core. Even the words "a" and "the" are bad, when they appear in the Common Core standards. Proper planning would have prevented their appearance, and it's impossible to implement them properly. My proof? There is an 'a' in Holocaust. Whose fault is that? Follow the money. (Hint: Arne also starts with an 'a'.)

Have you ever heard of "unintended consequences"? With the requirements for its implementations, good teachers will be fired and mediocre teachers may game the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, you've persuaded me. Everything about the Common Core is bad. Including things that have nothing to do with the Common Core. Even the words "a" and "the" are bad, when they appear in the Common Core standards. Proper planning would have prevented their appearance, and it's impossible to implement them properly. My proof? There is an 'a' in Holocaust. Whose fault is that? Follow the money. (Hint: Arne also starts with an 'a'.)

Have you ever heard of "unintended consequences"? With the requirements for its implementations, good teachers will be fired and mediocre teachers may game the system.

Yes, you're right. We should never do anything, because there might be unintended consequences.

[Anonymous]

^^^Of course, if we don't do anything, there will be unintended consequences to that, too.