Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

Yes, the federal government did such a great job on it ACA website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the federal government did such a great job on it ACA website.

If there were a national curriculum, it probably would have included a Holocaust-denial assignment, because launch of Healthcare.gov? Oh come on, you can do better than that. (Especially since as many people as projected ended up enrolling.)

[Anonymous]

If there were a national curriculum, it probably would have included a Holocaust-denial assignment, because launch of Healthcare.gov? Oh come on, you can do better than that. (Especially since as many people as projected ended up enrolling.)

That's kind of a stretch. However, it might have included mistakes and poor judgment. You don't know.

[Anonymous]

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If we don't want to have a national curriculum, with readings chosen for everyone, and the same topics assigned at each grade level, there are going to be questionable activities and assignments. This is what "local control over curriculum" means.

You will note that the locals complained and have put a stop to it. Lots harder if it were a national curriculum. That's why all of this needs to be kept at the local level.

Yes, it certainly would be harder to remove a Holocaust-denial assignment from the national curriculum, if there were a national curriculum with a Holocaust-denial assignment in it, which not only there isn't, but there never would be.

The PP is right -- this is actually an argument FOR a national curriculum, not against one.

When John Kerry calls Israel an Apartheid state, I wouldn't discount it.

[Anonymous]

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Teachers and school districts were given local control of selecting the curriculum, and they chose poorly; therefore that's a flaw in Common Core? Is that your argument?

Silly PP. EVERYTHING is a flaw in the Common Core, didn't you know? Including that my basement flooded last week when it rained.

Ah, I'm seeing the flaw in your mentality. Rains flooding a basement is wholly preventable prior to heavy rains, simply by making sure your home has been waterproofed (i.e. directing water away, making sure drains are clear, sump pumps, French drains, etc). I anticipated flooding in this area due to the water tables, and made sure our home met all the criteria to keep our basement dry. We have never had a leak into the house as a result.

See how proper planning and activation of said plans prevent problems? Now apply that to Common Core.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't like Common core, but this mess about the holocaust denial has nothing to do with it.

When a district states the paper was to meet common core standards, you have an issue. Clearly, the district didn't understand Common Core. Why is that?

[Anonymous]

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If it were a national curriculum, it wouldn't have happened in the first place.
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What makes you so sure? You think the federal government never makes mistakes? Have you ever heard of the VA?

You want to have it both ways. But no. Local government is local and nimble -- which is both why the problem was quick to fix and why the problem happened in the first place. The federal government is big and slow -- which is why the problem wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Correct.

The Feds would have either covered it up or bogged itself down in arguing the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Common core, but this mess about the holocaust denial has nothing to do with it.

When a district states the paper was to meet common core standards, you have an issue. Clearly, the district didn't understand Common Core. Why is that?

Good grief, really? A topic was not provided. They seem to have interpreted the standard just fine, they just chose a very poor topic.

Had a topic been provided in the standards itself, you'd be whiny about that too.

[Anonymous]

Clearly, the district didn't understand Common Core. Why is that?

The district was looking for a scapegoat. Go back to the article and find the name of the acting superintendent. Eureka!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Common core, but this mess about the holocaust denial has nothing to do with it.

When a district states the paper was to meet common core standards, you have an issue. Clearly, the district didn't understand Common Core. Why is that?

I once had a kindergartener take a marker and write FUK and DAM on the bathroom walls. His behavior demonstrated mastery of the following Common Core standards:

CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.L.K.1.A
Print many upper- and lowercase letters.

CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.L.K.2.C
Write a letter or letters for most consonant and short-vowel sounds (phonemes).

CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.L.K.2.D
Spell simple words phonetically, drawing on knowledge of sound-letter relationships.

That doesn't mean that the behavior was OK or that the standards are bad. It simply means that it's a teacher's job to teach their students when and how to apply their skills.

A student who can read papers by holocaust deniers and historians, decide which one they agree with, and write an essay explaining their argument while citing specific evidence from that text, is in fact demonstrating mastery of the CCSS. So, in that sense that district is right. This assignment does meet the CCSS. That doesn't make it in any way appropriate. There are, after all, many other topics a student can write about to demonstrate mastery of the same standard, just as there are many other words and surfaces my kindergarten could have used to demonstrate his prowess at spelling and handwriting.

[Anonymous]

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Teachers and school districts were given local control of selecting the curriculum, and they chose poorly; therefore that's a flaw in Common Core? Is that your argument?

Silly PP. EVERYTHING is a flaw in the Common Core, didn't you know? Including that my basement flooded last week when it rained.

Ah, I'm seeing the flaw in your mentality. Rains flooding a basement is wholly preventable prior to heavy rains, simply by making sure your home has been waterproofed (i.e. directing water away, making sure drains are clear, sump pumps, French drains, etc). I anticipated flooding in this area due to the water tables, and made sure our home met all the criteria to keep our basement dry. We have never had a leak into the house as a result.

See how proper planning and activation of said plans prevent problems? Now apply that to Common Core.

Wrong. My basement flooded last week when it rained because the federal government is involved in stormwater management, and it doesn't say anything in the Constitution about stormwater management. But we have become inured to these unconstitutional federal activities, because of the Common Core. Don't believe me? Follow the money.

[Anonymous]

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Clearly, the district didn't understand Common Core. Why is that?

The district was looking for a scapegoat. Go back to the article and find the name of the acting superintendent. Eureka!

This I agree with. Now ask yourselves how someone like this gets the job he does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Teachers and school districts were given local control of selecting the curriculum, and they chose poorly; therefore that's a flaw in Common Core? Is that your argument?

Silly PP. EVERYTHING is a flaw in the Common Core, didn't you know? Including that my basement flooded last week when it rained.

Ah, I'm seeing the flaw in your mentality. Rains flooding a basement is wholly preventable prior to heavy rains, simply by making sure your home has been waterproofed (i.e. directing water away, making sure drains are clear, sump pumps, French drains, etc). I anticipated flooding in this area due to the water tables, and made sure our home met all the criteria to keep our basement dry. We have never had a leak into the house as a result.

See how proper planning and activation of said plans prevent problems? Now apply that to Common Core.

Wrong. My basement flooded last week when it rained because the federal government is involved in stormwater management, and it doesn't say anything in the Constitution about stormwater management. But we have become inured to these unconstitutional federal activities, because of the Common Core. Don't believe me? Follow the money.

So you do get it now. Clearly to come up with this foolishness, you see my point about proper planning and implementation.

[Anonymous]

So you do get it now. Clearly to come up with this foolishness, you see my point about proper planning and implementation.

Yes. Proper planning is key. It is clear we do not have that with Race to the Top and Common Core.

[Anonymous]

Problem is: in the DC area, there may be cause to be concerned about flooding in your basement. Nevada, not so much. So, why do Nevadans have to plan for flooding in the basement just because DC says so?