Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

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Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

Baloney. And you know it.

If any married woman said this to a co-worker, let alone our supervisor, our husbands would correctly call us out for flirting with that co-worker.

Moreover, if we shared with any of our girlfriends or co-workers that we had said this, they would also support the same line of thought.

Ask any stranger. Most would assume the same.

Blake stoked flirtatious behavior and Baldoni read it from a mile away. So does everyone else but you, who happens to be a Lively supporter.

No one here is that dumb. And no jurors would be that dumb either.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

DP

Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

PP again, and honestly her language and Reynolds’s is very Deadpool. Talk about something using sex metaphors to be funny, but that doesn’t mean they want to have sex with everything the at moves. They have both lived that movie’s humor for the last decade; Reynolds’s co-wrote it and Lively had some input, too. Some of you here haven’t seen Deadpool or don’t like that humor and that’s fine. But I like those movies and that’s part of why I’m not shocked by her language, but also don’t see it as a come on. Baldoni is Bahai and seems like the kind of conservative person who would actually misunderstand and get the wrong idea from this language.

I would never write to a mail co-worker and talk about intimacy "but never with teeth" because it is an inappropriate sexual innuendo. Are you suggesting that Baldoni should go along with Hee inappropriate sexual innuendo in honor of "Deadpool"?

No. What he’s not allowed to do in response to “never with teeth” used as a metaphor is to actually talk to her about his porn, or to tell her all normal women rip their clothes off during childbirth and then try to make her shoot a birth scene with bared breasts without notice.

See how there’s a difference between what she uses her language to say and what he uses his power to do?

Again misrepresenting the facts. None of that actually happened. Where are the receipts proving this scandalous take? Where are the witnesses? The only person so far who’s had witnesses come out and corroborate their take on the birthing scene is Justin. And as we covered over and over again, Blake initiated the porn conversation.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

DP

Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

PP again, and honestly her language and Reynolds’s is very Deadpool. Talk about something using sex metaphors to be funny, but that doesn’t mean they want to have sex with everything the at moves. They have both lived that movie’s humor for the last decade; Reynolds’s co-wrote it and Lively had some input, too. Some of you here haven’t seen Deadpool or don’t like that humor and that’s fine. But I like those movies and that’s part of why I’m not shocked by her language, but also don’t see it as a come on. Baldoni is Bahai and seems like the kind of conservative person who would actually misunderstand and get the wrong idea from this language.

I would never write to a mail co-worker and talk about intimacy "but never with teeth" because it is an inappropriate sexual innuendo. Are you suggesting that Baldoni should go along with Hee inappropriate sexual innuendo in honor of "Deadpool"?

No. What he’s not allowed to do in response to “never with teeth” used as a metaphor is to actually talk to her about his porn, or to tell her all normal women rip their clothes off during childbirth and then try to make her shoot a birth scene with bared breasts without notice.

See how there’s a difference between what she uses her language to say and what he uses his power to do?

Except didn't shoot a birth scene with bared breasts. Bye.

I said try. Which is exactly what he did (he wanted her to shoot the birth scene with no top!), which she would not agree to, and so he even kept trying to insist on after the scene was shot. Bye.

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+1

Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

DP

Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

PP again, and honestly her language and Reynolds’s is very Deadpool. Talk about something using sex metaphors to be funny, but that doesn’t mean they want to have sex with everything the at moves. They have both lived that movie’s humor for the last decade; Reynolds’s co-wrote it and Lively had some input, too. Some of you here haven’t seen Deadpool or don’t like that humor and that’s fine. But I like those movies and that’s part of why I’m not shocked by her language, but also don’t see it as a come on. Baldoni is Bahai and seems like the kind of conservative person who would actually misunderstand and get the wrong idea from this language.

I would never write to a mail co-worker and talk about intimacy "but never with teeth" because it is an inappropriate sexual innuendo. Are you suggesting that Baldoni should go along with Hee inappropriate sexual innuendo in honor of "Deadpool"?

No. What he’s not allowed to do in response to “never with teeth” used as a metaphor is to actually talk to her about his porn, or to tell her all normal women rip their clothes off during childbirth and then try to make her shoot a birth scene with bared breasts without notice.

See how there’s a difference between what she uses her language to say and what he uses his power to do?

Except didn't shoot a birth scene with bared breasts. Bye.

I said try. Which is exactly what he did (he wanted her to shoot the birth scene with no top!), which she would not agree to, and so he even kept trying to insist on after the scene was shot. Bye.

It's a creative environment. Suggestions are fine.

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+1

Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

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Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

Rules for thee but not for me. All I hear you saying is Blake got to make all the rules. She got to decide when using sexually charged language was ok and when it was not. There’s not a jury on earth that’s going to agree with this take. Also, you’re misrepresenting what happened with the porn conversation. Blake said she didn’t want the scene to look like porn and that she had never seen porn. He responded to her comment and said that’s great b/c it’s a huge problem in our culture. He did not share it with the crew. I’m not sure where you’re getting this stuff from but you’re bending the facts to make them more agreeable to Blake.

I don't think Blake's objection to Baldoni's language was that it was "sexually charged." I think her issue was that it was objectifying or misogynist.

Her objection to the "sexy" comment is that it seemed to her like he was calling her sexy. She wasn't worried he was hitting on her, she was bothered because she was at work and her job isn't just to look sexy but to portray a character. She was bothered by his focus on her character's sexiness in that moment as opposed to the broader scene they were shooting.

Her objection to the comments about childbirth was that they were unnecessarily judgmental and stereotyping. Baldoni saying it's "not normal" to give birth with a hospital gown on is a weird judgment of the many women who do in fact where hospital gowns during childbirth. Heath saying that it was "weird" for Blake not to want to look at his wife's birth video is shaming Blake for having different boundaries around childbirth than Jamey or his wife do. In both instances, these two men are imposing their attitudes and preferences about childbirth on Blake. Not on the scene itself, but on Blake personally. There is a professional way in which they could have discussed why they thought it made artistic sense to have Blake's character be nude or topless in the childbirth scene. Instead, they chose to personalize it, talk about their wives as though they are representative of all women, and cast blanket judgement on any woman who might have a different opinion or attitude toward childbirth in general. It was unprofessional. Blake didn't think they were hitting on her.

Her objections to the actor chosen to play the doctor and to Sarowitz being present during the childbirth scene were similarly not about thinking these men were hitting on her. Rather, she felt objectified to have Baldoni/Heath pushing nudity in the scene and then at the same time bringing in men presented as friends to the set. As with the "sexy" comment, it felt like the goal of the scene had shifted from portraying her character's life and emotional experience to displaying her (as in Blake's) body for public consumption.

Similarly, her objection to Heath looking at her while topless was not that she thought Heath was trying to hit on her but simply that she felt exposed and he was not respectful of that boundary. She was having makeup removed and/or nursing, things she can't abruptly stop to get dressed, so she expected Heath to be sensitive to that. Baldoni and Heath seemed to think that if *they* were comfortable seeing Blake nursing or topless, that she had no reason to feel uncomfortable. But the point is it's her body and she should get to decide when and to whom she exposes it. It's about consent, not a sexually charged atmosphere.

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I fully believe Blake/her lawyer threatened Taylor's side by saying they would release 10 years of text messages. What I'm curious about is how brazen they were in their language when they asked. Did they flat-out make that threat? Or did they ask it in some roundabout way -- and if so, how? Obviously we can't know right now, but I just want to speculate.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

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Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

PP again, and honestly her language and Reynolds’s is very Deadpool. Talk about something using sex metaphors to be funny, but that doesn’t mean they want to have sex with everything the at moves. They have both lived that movie’s humor for the last decade; Reynolds’s co-wrote it and Lively had some input, too. Some of you here haven’t seen Deadpool or don’t like that humor and that’s fine. But I like those movies and that’s part of why I’m not shocked by her language, but also don’t see it as a come on. Baldoni is Bahai and seems like the kind of conservative person who would actually misunderstand and get the wrong idea from this language.

I would never write to a mail co-worker and talk about intimacy "but never with teeth" because it is an inappropriate sexual innuendo. Are you suggesting that Baldoni should go along with Hee inappropriate sexual innuendo in honor of "Deadpool"?

No. What he’s not allowed to do in response to “never with teeth” used as a metaphor is to actually talk to her about his porn, or to tell her all normal women rip their clothes off during childbirth and then try to make her shoot a birth scene with bared breasts without notice.

See how there’s a difference between what she uses her language to say and what he uses his power to do?

Except didn't shoot a birth scene with bared breasts. Bye.

I said try. Which is exactly what he did (he wanted her to shoot the birth scene with no top!), which she would not agree to, and so he even kept trying to insist on after the scene was shot. Bye.

It's a creative environment. Suggestions are fine.

The scene was already shot. At that point it wasn't a suggestion anymore. They just wanted Blake to watch the video so they tried to show it to her without even telling her what it was first. Which is weird.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

DP

Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

Rules for thee but not for me. All I hear you saying is Blake got to make all the rules. She got to decide when using sexually charged language was ok and when it was not. There’s not a jury on earth that’s going to agree with this take. Also, you’re misrepresenting what happened with the porn conversation. Blake said she didn’t want the scene to look like porn and that she had never seen porn. He responded to her comment and said that’s great b/c it’s a huge problem in our culture. He did not share it with the crew. I’m not sure where you’re getting this stuff from but you’re bending the facts to make them more agreeable to Blake.

I don't think Blake's objection to Baldoni's language was that it was "sexually charged." I think her issue was that it was objectifying or misogynist.

Her objection to the "sexy" comment is that it seemed to her like he was calling her sexy. She wasn't worried he was hitting on her, she was bothered because she was at work and her job isn't just to look sexy but to portray a character. She was bothered by his focus on her character's sexiness in that moment as opposed to the broader scene they were shooting.

Her objection to the comments about childbirth was that they were unnecessarily judgmental and stereotyping. Baldoni saying it's "not normal" to give birth with a hospital gown on is a weird judgment of the many women who do in fact where hospital gowns during childbirth. Heath saying that it was "weird" for Blake not to want to look at his wife's birth video is shaming Blake for having different boundaries around childbirth than Jamey or his wife do. In both instances, these two men are imposing their attitudes and preferences about childbirth on Blake. Not on the scene itself, but on Blake personally. There is a professional way in which they could have discussed why they thought it made artistic sense to have Blake's character be nude or topless in the childbirth scene. Instead, they chose to personalize it, talk about their wives as though they are representative of all women, and cast blanket judgement on any woman who might have a different opinion or attitude toward childbirth in general. It was unprofessional. Blake didn't think they were hitting on her.

Her objections to the actor chosen to play the doctor and to Sarowitz being present during the childbirth scene were similarly not about thinking these men were hitting on her. Rather, she felt objectified to have Baldoni/Heath pushing nudity in the scene and then at the same time bringing in men presented as friends to the set. As with the "sexy" comment, it felt like the goal of the scene had shifted from portraying her character's life and emotional experience to displaying her (as in Blake's) body for public consumption.

Similarly, her objection to Heath looking at her while topless was not that she thought Heath was trying to hit on her but simply that she felt exposed and he was not respectful of that boundary. She was having makeup removed and/or nursing, things she can't abruptly stop to get dressed, so she expected Heath to be sensitive to that. Baldoni and Heath seemed to think that if *they* were comfortable seeing Blake nursing or topless, that she had no reason to feel uncomfortable. But the point is it's her body and she should get to decide when and to whom she exposes it. It's about consent, not a sexually charged atmosphere.

Steve was not on set. Blake was clearly insecure about everything, so Baldoni said she looked sexy, a word she first used, to make her look better. Blake cannot be trusted to recall any situation accurately, so I doubt Heath used the word weird. Blake shouldn't have invited Heath to her dressing room when she was topless (seriously, what a freak).

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Anonymous wrote:I fully believe Blake/her lawyer threatened Taylor's side by saying they would release 10 years of text messages. What I'm curious about is how brazen they were in their language when they asked. Did they flat-out make that threat? Or did they ask it in some roundabout way -- and if so, how? Obviously we can't know right now, but I just want to speculate.

I believe Blake would do this but I do not believe her lawyer would. He has a great reputation and I simply don't believe he'd engage in that, especially for a PR advantage.

It would be especially stupid to do this to Taylor's lawyer, who is also very well respected. I just don't believe that Gottlieb is that reckless or that he would sacrifice a reputation he's spent decades building for Blake Lively. It makes no sense. I'm going to need extremely firm evidence before I buy it. Like Baldridge swearing to it. I certainly am not going to take the word of the Daily Mail via a source who says Scott Swift found out from [someone, we don't know who] and then told Freedman. That's too many unreliable entities passing on information that doesn't pass the smell test for me.

I do believe Blake asked Taylor to delete texts.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

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Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

PP again, and honestly her language and Reynolds’s is very Deadpool. Talk about something using sex metaphors to be funny, but that doesn’t mean they want to have sex with everything the at moves. They have both lived that movie’s humor for the last decade; Reynolds’s co-wrote it and Lively had some input, too. Some of you here haven’t seen Deadpool or don’t like that humor and that’s fine. But I like those movies and that’s part of why I’m not shocked by her language, but also don’t see it as a come on. Baldoni is Bahai and seems like the kind of conservative person who would actually misunderstand and get the wrong idea from this language.

I would never write to a mail co-worker and talk about intimacy "but never with teeth" because it is an inappropriate sexual innuendo. Are you suggesting that Baldoni should go along with Hee inappropriate sexual innuendo in honor of "Deadpool"?

No. What he’s not allowed to do in response to “never with teeth” used as a metaphor is to actually talk to her about his porn, or to tell her all normal women rip their clothes off during childbirth and then try to make her shoot a birth scene with bared breasts without notice.

See how there’s a difference between what she uses her language to say and what he uses his power to do?

Again misrepresenting the facts. None of that actually happened. Where are the receipts proving this scandalous take? Where are the witnesses? The only person so far who’s had witnesses come out and corroborate their take on the birthing scene is Justin. And as we covered over and over again, Blake initiated the porn conversation.

She initiates the porn discussion , but then screams “you’re trying to show me porn” when it’s just a pic and video of a family holding their newborn baby.

She screams sh, after she willingly invites Baldoni and Heath to her trailer, while she is pumping (which would mean she is partially unclothed and a breast (or both) would be visible during the discussion. But she claims SH because she felt Heath stared at her too long while she was pumping!

And so forth.

Blake stoked flirtiness and inappropriate behavior, and then tried to trap both Heath and Baldoni in to reacting to her flirting. No woman, except for perhaps you if you are a woman, would read her exchanges as innocent and joking. Perhaps fun, but saturated with flirtatious innuendo. There was no innocent banter in her cattle calls.

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I genuinely wonder if Justin himself would have a valid case for harassment against Blake and Ryan based on how inappropriately they acted toward him. He should have beat her to the punch and sued first.

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I’ve had this exact same thought many times as well.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

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Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

Rules for thee but not for me. All I hear you saying is Blake got to make all the rules. She got to decide when using sexually charged language was ok and when it was not. There’s not a jury on earth that’s going to agree with this take. Also, you’re misrepresenting what happened with the porn conversation. Blake said she didn’t want the scene to look like porn and that she had never seen porn. He responded to her comment and said that’s great b/c it’s a huge problem in our culture. He did not share it with the crew. I’m not sure where you’re getting this stuff from but you’re bending the facts to make them more agreeable to Blake.

I don't think Blake's objection to Baldoni's language was that it was "sexually charged." I think her issue was that it was objectifying or misogynist.

Her objection to the "sexy" comment is that it seemed to her like he was calling her sexy. She wasn't worried he was hitting on her, she was bothered because she was at work and her job isn't just to look sexy but to portray a character. She was bothered by his focus on her character's sexiness in that moment as opposed to the broader scene they were shooting.

Her objection to the comments about childbirth was that they were unnecessarily judgmental and stereotyping. Baldoni saying it's "not normal" to give birth with a hospital gown on is a weird judgment of the many women who do in fact where hospital gowns during childbirth. Heath saying that it was "weird" for Blake not to want to look at his wife's birth video is shaming Blake for having different boundaries around childbirth than Jamey or his wife do. In both instances, these two men are imposing their attitudes and preferences about childbirth on Blake. Not on the scene itself, but on Blake personally. There is a professional way in which they could have discussed why they thought it made artistic sense to have Blake's character be nude or topless in the childbirth scene. Instead, they chose to personalize it, talk about their wives as though they are representative of all women, and cast blanket judgement on any woman who might have a different opinion or attitude toward childbirth in general. It was unprofessional. Blake didn't think they were hitting on her.

Her objections to the actor chosen to play the doctor and to Sarowitz being present during the childbirth scene were similarly not about thinking these men were hitting on her. Rather, she felt objectified to have Baldoni/Heath pushing nudity in the scene and then at the same time bringing in men presented as friends to the set. As with the "sexy" comment, it felt like the goal of the scene had shifted from portraying her character's life and emotional experience to displaying her (as in Blake's) body for public consumption.

Similarly, her objection to Heath looking at her while topless was not that she thought Heath was trying to hit on her but simply that she felt exposed and he was not respectful of that boundary. She was having makeup removed and/or nursing, things she can't abruptly stop to get dressed, so she expected Heath to be sensitive to that. Baldoni and Heath seemed to think that if *they* were comfortable seeing Blake nursing or topless, that she had no reason to feel uncomfortable. But the point is it's her body and she should get to decide when and to whom she exposes it. It's about consent, not a sexually charged atmosphere.

Steve was not on set. Blake was clearly insecure about everything, so Baldoni said she looked sexy, a word she first used, to make her look better. Blake cannot be trusted to recall any situation accurately, so I doubt Heath used the word weird. Blake shouldn't have invited Heath to her dressing room when she was topless (seriously, what a freak).

Gaslight, gaslight, alternative universe and gaslight.

This is what you do. No one is buying. Go back to Reddit please.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully believe Blake/her lawyer threatened Taylor's side by saying they would release 10 years of text messages. What I'm curious about is how brazen they were in their language when they asked. Did they flat-out make that threat? Or did they ask it in some roundabout way -- and if so, how? Obviously we can't know right now, but I just want to speculate.

I believe Blake would do this but I do not believe her lawyer would. He has a great reputation and I simply don't believe he'd engage in that, especially for a PR advantage.

It would be especially stupid to do this to Taylor's lawyer, who is also very well respected. I just don't believe that Gottlieb is that reckless or that he would sacrifice a reputation he's spent decades building for Blake Lively. It makes no sense. I'm going to need extremely firm evidence before I buy it. Like Baldridge swearing to it. I certainly am not going to take the word of the Daily Mail via a source who says Scott Swift found out from [someone, we don't know who] and then told Freedman. That's too many unreliable entities passing on information that doesn't pass the smell test for me.

I do believe Blake asked Taylor to delete texts.

Sometimes people make poor decisions. Regardless, Freedman will expose the truth when ready.

But a signed affidavit is a good sign that it occurred.

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Speculating about the sexuality of an actor just because you don't like him or his wife is a very special brand of homophobia. Just stop. You can dislike Ryan, and Blake, without turning it into "oh he must be gay." Because guess what, if he is gay, it doesn't matter. And if he isn't gay, it also doesn't matter. If he and Blake are both bi and have an open relationship... it also doesn't matter. If they are both asexual and don't actually have sex with anyone and all their kids were IVF... it also doesn't matter.

A person's sexuality is a private matter that is none of your business and is not relevant to whether you side for or against them in a lawsuit or like them as a person. Is Baldoni secretly gay? Jamey Heath? Sarowitz? It truly does not matter, it has zero bearing on anything, leave it alone.

It matters if their open marriage played a role in the dynamics between them and Justin. Pretending that these arrangements don’t exist is actually more homophobic in my opinion because we’re treating it as too taboo to talk about.

+1. Not just the open marriage part, the part where this D-list nobody who can’t act still has this totally undeserved career at nearly 40 years old, seemingly only because she’s married to this guy. And then she has him risking his own reputation and all of his Hollywood clout defending her hoax. It feels like a mutually assured destruction situation.

The amount of fantasy and speculation in this comment... you are inventing these scenarios in your head.

Did you know it's possible to defend Baldoni and reject Blake's narrative while sticking to known facts in the legal pleadings, or things that are accepted public knowledge? Why not just do that?

It actually undermines your argument when you go off on these speculative tangents like "oh Blake was in love with Baldoni and Ryan found out and flew into a jealous rage and that's why they did this" or "oh Ryan is actually a closet homosexual and this is a marriage of convenience and now he's going to divorce her and hook up with Hugh Jackman," you don't convince anyone of anything. You just sound crazy.

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Blake to Justin “ if you knew me (in person) longer you’d have a sense of how flirty and yummy the ball busting will play. It’s my love language. Spicy and playfully bold, never with teeth.” Justin responds by reminding her he has a wife “sorry was just crying my eyes out, wife and kids are leaving again for 5 weeks.”

Blake to Justin “I’m just pumping in my trailer if you want to come run lines”. Justin deflects again “eating with the crew.”

We see a similar pattern during the dance scene where JB brings up his wife to put some distance between them.

My husband would flip if I was texting these kinds of things to another man, but that’s because we’re not in an open marriage.

The way some of you are putting your heads in the sand is what’s crazy.

You are taking your narrow personal experience and imposing it on people who lead very different kinds of lives from you. Blake was talking about a scene where she and Baldoni are portraying two people falling in love. She's not discussing TPS reports. Their job involves simulating sex on camera and kissing each other. It's a different setting than whatever you do for a living.

There is nothing sexual about pumping milk, it's like the least sexy thing a woman can do unless you have a cow fetish.

Justin repeatedly told Blake he could commune with her dead dad. That also super weird and inappropriately personal, but I don't think it means he was hitting in her. I think he's just a woo woo Hollywood type and that's how he talks to people.

You guys just like reading into things but that doesn't make it true.

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think a lot of her texts and comments to him were inappropriate, especially given how she portrays herself now in her complaint where every little thing is offensive to her. Even the pumping, a more appropriate text would’ve been “Do you want to run some lines in my trailer? Just a heads up that I’m pumping. Hope that’s ok?” Why was she assuming he’d be ok with that?

Obviously telling someone you are pumping is notice that you... are pumping. If he doesn't feel comfortable with that, he doesn't have to come. But also you can pump fully clothed -- I used to pump at work all the time and it was not a boobs out situation at all (as I would not have felt comfortable with that even in my office with the door closed). I wore a cover and did it discreetly. It's just not a come on at all.

I also don't get how the email with "never with teeth" is a come on either, to be honest. She's obviously talking about how she would play the scene in character, and discussing her strengths as an actor. She's referring to how she wants the scene to play for an audience, not how she wants the scene to make Justin feel. And she's telling him he will be happy with her performance, as a director. She's using bawdy language but that's incredibly common among performers -- I have friends who work in theater and film/tv and this is just how many of them talk. I would feel differently if she were referencing her own body or his, but she's just using figurative language to describe how she wants the scene to play for an audience.

If that’s how she talks, how do you square that with some of the things in her complaint like her being offended that he called her outfit sexy or that Heath showed her a video of a woman giving birth. It simply doesn’t make sense.

DP (who also disagrees with you). Lovely’s language was never personal. You don’t see her texting him that he’s so hot, or is so attractive, or that he was so hot in that scene it really got to her personally etc. Her language was bawdy but not personal. That’s why when his language WAS personal, it threw her off. Maybe he misunderstood and thought that any woman who used language like that was of course going to be “loose” and want a come on from him, or to be told she was sexy and smelled good etc. But while Lively uses bawdy language as a kind of joke, to express herself in a funny way, she is actually pretty prudish about how much closeness and personal sharing she actually wants from other people like Baldoni. She doesn’t want to hear about or see their porn. She doesn’t want them sharing with the crew her own non-exposure to porn like it’s something to be made fun of. She doesn’t want you talking about her dead dad.

Baldoni misunderstood Lively’s bawdy language as intimacy, and it was not, it was just humor. She was joking, and wanted him at arms length, whereas he kept trying to relate to her personally, which she didn’t want.

Rules for thee but not for me. All I hear you saying is Blake got to make all the rules. She got to decide when using sexually charged language was ok and when it was not. There’s not a jury on earth that’s going to agree with this take. Also, you’re misrepresenting what happened with the porn conversation. Blake said she didn’t want the scene to look like porn and that she had never seen porn. He responded to her comment and said that’s great b/c it’s a huge problem in our culture. He did not share it with the crew. I’m not sure where you’re getting this stuff from but you’re bending the facts to make them more agreeable to Blake.

I don't think Blake's objection to Baldoni's language was that it was "sexually charged." I think her issue was that it was objectifying or misogynist.

Her objection to the "sexy" comment is that it seemed to her like he was calling her sexy. She wasn't worried he was hitting on her, she was bothered because she was at work and her job isn't just to look sexy but to portray a character. She was bothered by his focus on her character's sexiness in that moment as opposed to the broader scene they were shooting.

Her objection to the comments about childbirth was that they were unnecessarily judgmental and stereotyping. Baldoni saying it's "not normal" to give birth with a hospital gown on is a weird judgment of the many women who do in fact where hospital gowns during childbirth. Heath saying that it was "weird" for Blake not to want to look at his wife's birth video is shaming Blake for having different boundaries around childbirth than Jamey or his wife do. In both instances, these two men are imposing their attitudes and preferences about childbirth on Blake. Not on the scene itself, but on Blake personally. There is a professional way in which they could have discussed why they thought it made artistic sense to have Blake's character be nude or topless in the childbirth scene. Instead, they chose to personalize it, talk about their wives as though they are representative of all women, and cast blanket judgement on any woman who might have a different opinion or attitude toward childbirth in general. It was unprofessional. Blake didn't think they were hitting on her.

Her objections to the actor chosen to play the doctor and to Sarowitz being present during the childbirth scene were similarly not about thinking these men were hitting on her. Rather, she felt objectified to have Baldoni/Heath pushing nudity in the scene and then at the same time bringing in men presented as friends to the set. As with the "sexy" comment, it felt like the goal of the scene had shifted from portraying her character's life and emotional experience to displaying her (as in Blake's) body for public consumption.

Similarly, her objection to Heath looking at her while topless was not that she thought Heath was trying to hit on her but simply that she felt exposed and he was not respectful of that boundary. She was having makeup removed and/or nursing, things she can't abruptly stop to get dressed, so she expected Heath to be sensitive to that. Baldoni and Heath seemed to think that if *they* were comfortable seeing Blake nursing or topless, that she had no reason to feel uncomfortable. But the point is it's her body and she should get to decide when and to whom she exposes it. It's about consent, not a sexually charged atmosphere.

Steve was not on set. Blake was clearly insecure about everything, so Baldoni said she looked sexy, a word she first used, to make her look better. Blake cannot be trusted to recall any situation accurately, so I doubt Heath used the word weird. Blake shouldn't have invited Heath to her dressing room when she was topless (seriously, what a freak).

Gaslight, gaslight, alternative universe and gaslight.

This is what you do. No one is buying. Go back to Reddit please.

You want to go to Reddit, but you know your BL takes would be downvoted into oblivion.