Gaza War, Part 3

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There would be 0 hostages alive if this were Iraqi ISIS. Palestinians are not a death cult
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Israel literally is. Its entire creation is based on death and there were Israeli Zionist fanatics in Europe who supported the Nuremberg Laws and Nazi rise for the cause of statehood. Many Anti Zionists who wanted to stay in Europe rightly so after centuries there and cultural assimilation strongly opposed going to Middle East permanently and died in Europe during the Holocaust
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Anonymous wrote:I’ll ask again: why aren’t middle eastern countries taking in Palestinians? Funny how no one will answer this.


Because they don’t want them either. All they know is death and violence.


Because the Palestinians need to live in their homeland which the Israelis stole. As long as Israel refuses to recognize the existence of a Palestinian state Israel needs to go. It is a failed experiment in terrorism and destabilizes the region.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


All the hallmarks of troll behavior.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.


Still WRONG and you were caught in a lie. Stop spinning. Stop lying.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.


Still WRONG and you were caught in a lie. Stop spinning. Stop lying.


The truth hurts. Facing the fact that Israeli was created on the backs of terrorism and brutal, murderous land theft, and that is sustained on the backs of state-sponsored terrorism and apartheid must feel terrible. But those feelings don't change the facts.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.


You are lying about this as well. Even a "Soviet" Jew's DNA is strongly and closely tied to the Levant, NOT to Slavic DNA. The DNA of most Israelis is virtually indistinguishable from that of "indigenous" Palestinians. It's wild that you continue to falsely believe the Jewish diaspora apparently never happened and pretend that Israelis are "Europeans" with no ties to the region. What else do you deny in this bizarre alternative universe of yours? The Holocaust?
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.


Still WRONG and you were caught in a lie. Stop spinning. Stop lying.


The truth hurts. Facing the fact that Israeli was created on the backs of terrorism and brutal, murderous land theft, and that is sustained on the backs of state-sponsored terrorism and apartheid must feel terrible. But those feelings don't change the facts.


If this is such a strong case then why do you feel the need to constantly go out of your way and lie about it? Don't you understand that your constant lies about Israelis destroys your credibility and undermines your cause?

And you wonder why people keep calling you a troll. It's because you're been repeatedly caught in a constant stream of anti-Israeli lies, your lies proven over and over and over. Yet you dishonestly and disingenuously insist on returning to repeat them again and again. You are here pushing an agenda that is laced with lies.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.


You are lying about this as well. Even a "Soviet" Jew's DNA is strongly and closely tied to the Levant, NOT to Slavic DNA. The DNA of most Israelis is virtually indistinguishable from that of "indigenous" Palestinians. It's wild that you continue to falsely believe the Jewish diaspora apparently never happened and pretend that Israelis are "Europeans" with no ties to the region. What else do you deny in this bizarre alternative universe of yours? The Holocaust?


Numerous genetic studies prove this: https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/2015-10-20/ty-article/palestinians-and-jews-share-genetic-roots/0000017f-dc0e-df9c-a17f-fe1e57730000 - typical Israeli Jews' genes are most closely aligned to Palestinians. NOT Russians.
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Anonymous wrote:Why us this rabidly antisemitic pro-terrorist thread still open?


The goal of Zionists is to censor speech that is critical of Israel (regardless of the merit of that criticism), then attack those making that speech. And when steps 1 and 2 fail, their failsafe is to repeatedly, indiscriminately use the old anti-semitic trope to shut down the entire discussion.

The only thing we've forgotten in the past 80 years is how to hold exactly one group accountable for its actions. We sure didn't forget the holocaust. But we forgot that EVERYONE must be accountable for their actions and their conduct. We carved out an exception in Israel, and that exception has created more conflict and awful outcomes over the past 75 years than we could have ever imagined. It's long past time to face the facts.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


You are interacting with more than one person. I'm the one who stated 65%, and I stand by it. To be abundantly clear, it's 65% not of the entire Israeli population, but 65% of the non-Arab Israeli population. So around 4.8M of Israeli's 9.4M "official" citizens.

People like you who try to create propagate nonsense that Israelis are just as indigenous as the Palestinians desperately try to downplay the Soviet population surge in the region over the past 40 years, in particular, and you attempt to contain the number by only counting the immigration count. And then you try to count the children and grandchildren of this immigrants as something other than "Soviet" or "Russian" or "Polish", as if by virtue of having been born in Israel, they no longer are non-indigenous. Nobody is buying that.

Someone else referenced 15% or 30% or whatever.


Still WRONG and you were caught in a lie. Stop spinning. Stop lying.


The truth hurts. Facing the fact that Israeli was created on the backs of terrorism and brutal, murderous land theft, and that is sustained on the backs of state-sponsored terrorism and apartheid must feel terrible. But those feelings don't change the facts.


If this is such a strong case then why do you feel the need to constantly go out of your way and lie about it? Don't you understand that your constant lies about Israelis destroys your credibility and undermines your cause?

And you wonder why people keep calling you a troll. It's because you're been repeatedly caught in a constant stream of anti-Israeli lies, your lies proven over and over and over. Yet you dishonestly and disingenuously insist on returning to repeat them again and again. You are here pushing an agenda that is laced with lies.


Yes, I understand that you believe that merely by saying a word, your voice makes it true. Accusing others of lying is a classic Zionist tactic. That's why you align so well with the "fake news" charlatans here in the U.S.

If I want to know what you're up to, I only need to observe what you're accusing others of.

You're the liar. You're the one pushing an agenda that Israel is good, and everyone else is bad. Dishonesty is your currency.
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Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21
Palestinian officials call latest assault ‘premeditated’ as people seeking humanitarian supplies increasingly targeted.

At least 21 Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on thousands of people waiting for aid in Gaza City in the same area that was targeted hours earlier, government officials said.

The Ministry of Health in Gaza described the late Thursday attack as a “new, premeditated massacre” and said more than 150 people were wounded.

Witnesses told Al Jazeera that Israeli forces had used helicopters, tanks and drones to target thousands of people waiting on food trucks.

It was the latest in a string of assaults on people desperately in need of food and other essential supplies as Israel continues to obstruct and severely control the entry of aid into the enclave.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/15/massacre-israel-forces-attack-crowds-waiting-for-aid-in-gaza-killing-21

Israel needs to be pay for these crimes.


Be pay? Your grammar is slipping, Vlad.

Anyhow, it looks like that latest attack on a humanitarian convoy was not IDF and in fact IDF has aerial video footage showing armed Hamas on the ground firing guns in the midst of the crowd. Yet another Hamas lie. Yet another thing IDF was falsely blamed for.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-probe-palestinian-gunmen-killed-gazans-waiting-for-aid-army-did-not-fire/


The ‘Vlad’ here screams senile boomer!


Plenty of this on the Ukraine thread too. There is clearly someone obsessed with Putin, using “you must be a Russian troll” in lieu of legit arguments. Maybe it’s a bunch of people, idk


The constant language mistakes on the anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel threads scream posts by foreign, non-native English speakers. Some of it's obvious, some more subtle but there's a few other tells too. If it's a bunch of people it's weird that they all make the same mistakes.


The question of Russian trolls was raised a while back with the admin of this site - he said he didn’t have any indication of that. Maybe it has changed, but there are many non native speakers who don’t agree with US foreign policy in Ukraine or Israel. They aren’t necessarily trolls, let alone paid ones. Calling a dissenting voice Vlad doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Besides, you are offending non native speakers and people named Vlad or Vladimir. It becomes annoying.


On the contrary, the pro-Israel “this land was promised to us” guy is LITERALLY the most prominent Eastern European / Russian voice that has been active in these threads.


According to who? You? The weirdo who a couple of pages back made the strange claim that "most" Israelis were Russians and as such were somehow aligned with Russia? Sorry, nope.


DP. Most Israelis ARE Russian immigrants. You haven't been paying attention, brotha. Nothing weird or strange about that reality, other than the fact that those immigrant morons also have an iron grip on the Knesset and they enable slobs from Mother Russia and the trip-state area to terrorize indigenous people, especially in the West Bank.


NP This is completely incorrect. Russians are the largest groups of immigrants, yes, but they make up less than 20% of the population as a whole.


If you include "Israeli Arabs" in the numbers. The estimated number of Russian speakers among Jewish Israelis is 30% and growing. That doesn't include the formerly Russian immigrants from the inter-war period.


Again post your source for "30% and growing" - this article says 15% and that's far believable and more in line with other numbers I've seen. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/18/russian-vote-israel

Your numbers are shrinking fast... you started at 65%, now you're at "30% and growing" - whereas actual sources say 15%... Can you explain why you feel this urgent need to keep lying and grossly exaggerating the number?


https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-other-tribe-israels-russian-speaking-community-and-how-it-is-changing-the-country/

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/audio/russian-speaking-israelis-and-how-they-changed-israel

https://m.jpost.com/aliyah/article-735785

You have absolutely no shame. None of that was controversial, misleading, exaggerated or a lie.
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Anonymous wrote:Why us this rabidly antisemitic pro-terrorist thread still open?


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