If you're vegetarian

[Anonymous]

How strict are you about it, and how far in are you? Do you find that cheating a bit here or there makes you fall off the wagon?

[Anonymous]

I don’t get the question. Either you’re vegetarian or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the question. Either you’re vegetarian or not.

+1
Bizarre question.

[Anonymous]

OP, agree, what you are talking about is not a vegetarian but someone who tries not to eat meat as much as possible. A vegetarian does NOT eat meat. At all. Period.

[Anonymous]

Oh gimme a break. There are plenty of vegetarians who ocassionaly eat meat, or cook with chicken broth etc. No need to be all holier-than thou about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How strict are you about it, and how far in are you? Do you find that cheating a bit here or there makes you fall off the wagon?

There are definitely people who "get sober from meat" by choosing a vegetarian diet. Almost everyone I know who fits that description is a vegetarian for ethical reasons, and those people, while they eat dairy products and eggs, are strict in that they do not eat the flesh of animals, including fish, but not so strict that they do not wear leather, silk, use honey, and other stuff along those lines that some stricter vegetarians observe.

That said, there are also a lot of vegetarians who are not vegetarians specifically for ethical reasons. I've been vegetarian most of my life because my mom was, starting well before I was born. That's just what food was in my hippie household. We ate a lot of tofu, and I didn't have "a hamburger" until I was in middle school. There have been times in my life when I've eaten some meat, but it's just not something I have an attachment to that would result in "falling off the wagon" or "cheating."

It's not AA, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh gimme a break. There are plenty of vegetarians who ocassionaly eat meat, or cook with chicken broth etc. No need to be all holier-than thou about it.

They’re not vegetarians. They’re people who usually eat a vegetarian diet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How strict are you about it, and how far in are you? Do you find that cheating a bit here or there makes you fall off the wagon?

There are definitely people who "get sober from meat" by choosing a vegetarian diet. Almost everyone I know who fits that description is a vegetarian for ethical reasons, and those people, while they eat dairy products and eggs, are strict in that they do not eat the flesh of animals, including fish, but not so strict that they do not wear leather, silk, use honey, and other stuff along those lines that some stricter vegetarians observe.

That said, there are also a lot of vegetarians who are not vegetarians specifically for ethical reasons. I've been vegetarian most of my life because my mom was, starting well before I was born. That's just what food was in my hippie household. We ate a lot of tofu, and I didn't have "a hamburger" until I was in middle school. There have been times in my life when I've eaten some meat, but it's just not something I have an attachment to that would result in "falling off the wagon" or "cheating."

It's not AA, OP.

Wordnik:

fall off the wagon
verb

To cease or fail at a regimen of self-improvement or reform; to lapse back into an old habit or addiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How strict are you about it, and how far in are you? Do you find that cheating a bit here or there makes you fall off the wagon?

There are definitely people who "get sober from meat" by choosing a vegetarian diet. Almost everyone I know who fits that description is a vegetarian for ethical reasons, and those people, while they eat dairy products and eggs, are strict in that they do not eat the flesh of animals, including fish, but not so strict that they do not wear leather, silk, use honey, and other stuff along those lines that some stricter vegetarians observe.

That said, there are also a lot of vegetarians who are not vegetarians specifically for ethical reasons. I've been vegetarian most of my life because my mom was, starting well before I was born. That's just what food was in my hippie household. We ate a lot of tofu, and I didn't have "a hamburger" until I was in middle school. There have been times in my life when I've eaten some meat, but it's just not something I have an attachment to that would result in "falling off the wagon" or "cheating."

It's not AA, OP.

Wordnik:

fall off the wagon
verb

To cease or fail at a regimen of self-improvement or reform; to lapse back into an old habit or addiction.

Right, I'm aware of the meaning. I was simply pointing out that there are a lot of people in the world who didn't ever "begin" a "regimen of self-improvement or reform" or "lapse back into an old habit." I didn't become vegetarian for self-improvement, and didn't have any "old habits" to fall back on. I was just raised that way.

[Anonymous]

I’ve been a vegetarian since I was 11 - and never knowingly have consumed meat/fish/chicken products including stock found in many soups or fish sauces in Asian cuisine. If I suspect something has any of the above - even despite assurances - I just wouldn’t eat it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh gimme a break. There are plenty of vegetarians who ocassionaly eat meat, or cook with chicken broth etc. No need to be all holier-than thou about it.

They are not vegetarians. You seem confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh gimme a break. There are plenty of vegetarians who ocassionaly eat meat, or cook with chicken broth etc. No need to be all holier-than thou about it.

They are not vegetarians. You seem confused.

Many of them call themselves vegetarians and I’m not going to police that. Just like I don’t police people who call themselves kosher who occasionally eat shrimp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh gimme a break. There are plenty of vegetarians who ocassionaly eat meat, or cook with chicken broth etc. No need to be all holier-than thou about it.

They are not vegetarians. You seem confused.

Many of them call themselves vegetarians and I’m not going to police that. Just like I don’t police people who call themselves kosher who occasionally eat shrimp.

They can call themselves whatever they want but they’re not vegetarians by definition.

[Anonymous]

My H is vegetarian because of his culture. He never eats meat or fish. Maybe once in the 30 years we have known each other I have a seen him eat something with meat, and that was by accident (a lasagna not labeled correctly) and as soon as he realized he stopped. He does most of the cooking so I'm pretty much vegetarian, but I do eat meat and fish occasionally, so I do not call myself vegetarian. For my H, there's no "being strict or not"...it's who he is, and who he has been his whole life.

[Anonymous]

I don’t eat animal products for moral reasons. I stopped 35+ years ago, and never looked back.

Others don’t eat meat or other animal products for weight loss or health reasons; these are the ones who “fall off the wagon”. Does this describes you, OP? If so, I’d think asking in the Diet or Health forum would get more of what you’re looking to talk with others about.