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Example: I enjoy cruises. Usually 7 day trips every few months and I think they are cost effective, even with the price of the cruise and a few extras like drink package, and random gift shop stuff, we usually come out at less than we would spend flying somewhere, staying in a hotel and then doing activities. The issue is that near the end of the cruise, I start to feel icky. Like looking around at all the excess and realizing it isn’t sustainable. Does anyone else feel like this?
Didn’t put this in the travel forum since it can apply to many things other than cruises (seeing store throw away merchandise, the amount of cars on the road, etc) |
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Cruises get a lot of hate around here so it's a difficult example. I like cruises but yes, the excess is uncomfortable. The amount of food that must get thrown away is just problematic.
And excess in general in the world. Packaging waste bothers me. Single use things bother me like those flosser picks you use one time for 30 seconds. When people use disposable tableware on a daily basis. It's depressing to me. |
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The thing is, different things are excess to different people. I am the poster who said she'd never buy cheap pizza and crappy grocery store birthday cake for my kids' birthday parties. There are other people who think that's excessive. And there are yet other people who do things I think are excessive, like flying privately, because of how terrible that is for the environment.
Everyone has to do what feels right to them. |
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Yes.
And I hate that there’s nothing meaningful I can really do. Sure, we avoid single use plastic, fast fashion and take public transit. And everyone I know makes similar but efforts, But the reality is that it makes no difference and if anything the excesses have only grown. |
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Yes. My DH and I talk about this often. If everyone on the planet lived the way we do, it wouldn't merely be unsustainable -- it would be over. It is a useful thing to remember, I think
We are not super crunchy environmentalists but we do try to make our bigger choices (how big our home is, if we drive or how many cars we have, and yes, how we choose to spend our leisure time) more sustainable. I actually like the idea of a cruise, because I like the idea of an all-inclusive vacation where we don't have to worry about much once we are on it, but your comments probably prejudice me against going on one because yes, it would bother me to think about all the waste on one of those boats. |
Lol good trolling. "I think crappy grocery store cake is wasteful excess but I take private jets."
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That's not what PP said. |
Look up how the cruise ships dispose of their human waste - do not look it up during dinner. |
| Cruises are trashy. People of actual means charter yachts. We do a yearly 2 week charter out of Ft Lauderdale in Jan/Feb |
Very relevant.
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/s, btw. You never know... |
Crappy bday cake is the BEST!! |
Ha! You wish! I guess you are unaware that some people actually own their own yachts and hire their own private crew. |
| DCUM is heavily infected with aflunza. |
| So your own excess depresses you. Got it. |