MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No. It's never right to perform any type of medical test on a minor without the consent of the guardian. Never.

I’m sorry; there’s a vast body of existing jurisprudence placing your position on this as an extreme outlier. Basically, you’re a nut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

What happens when the family of the kid who has the symptom has not opted into testing? Your kids will still get sent home. So no, reason has not prevailed. They still need to rescind this guidance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No one is forcing you to send your kid in-person, you could have applied to the VA but most likely were one of the posters wringing their hands in July about how robust it was going to be and missed the extended deadline. Or you could choose to homeschool.

Well, if no one is forcing anyone to go to school, then opt-out testing shouldn’t be any kind of problem. If you don’t like it, don’t go to school. No one’s forcing you.

We don’t have opt out testing- I realize you’re preoccupied with your awesome VA experience but do try to keep up if you decide to comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

What happens when the family of the kid who has the symptom has not opted into testing? Your kids will still get sent home. So no, reason has not prevailed. They still need to rescind this guidance.

So will there be a different option in for the rapid tests vs. random surveillance testing? This is starting to get confusing, would have been nice if this had been ironed out before the school year started.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my. So now I’m hearing the outdoor lunch people are advocating for opt-out surveillance testing to nip a symptomatic spread in the bud, the togetheragain people want to keep surveillance testing opt out (so they can opt out: don’t ask don’t tell), and everyone wants rapid testing for kids with a “symptom” so we can all avoid the whole class quarantine. And MCPS just wants to send everyone home to fend for themselves. Is that where we are, friends?

People behaving responsibly will be ok with testing as they know its the right thing to do. But those who want to live life as normal will refuse testing as they just don't care and if they kids get sick they will send them to school anyway as they don't want to parent their kids. Those are the kids we need targeted for testing.

The fend for yourself is one reason we choose VA. But, there is no other good way to do it as parents don't want hybrid/concurrent and wanted back to normal. Back to normal never gave any instructions or for us, even make up assignments.

I’ll opt in once MCPS gets their story straight. 18 months and they couldn’t figure any of this out sooner? Sounds like the new quarantine plan was cooked up by Gayles while vacationing in France, as a grenade to throw on his way out the door.

Don't opt in but don't complain about the quarantine and having to get your kids testing. Or, the lack of instruction during quarantine as its the fault of families like you who refuse to be careful. Gayles failed us and all public officials should think about their behavior but they aren't. Nor are the families/parents or teachers/staff so we'll have spread and quarantines.

Lots of assumptions in your post. Real sorry I have to work in person- is that what you mean by not being careful, that I didn’t think ahead to get a cushy telework job?

I think she was talking about your trips to Disney and Ocean City.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

What happens when the family of the kid who has the symptom has not opted into testing? Your kids will still get sent home. So no, reason has not prevailed. They still need to rescind this guidance.

So will there be a different option in for the rapid tests vs. random surveillance testing? This is starting to get confusing, would have been nice if this had been ironed out before the school year started.

MCPS could follow CDC guidelines and quarantine close contacts of positive cases instead of kids claiming to have headaches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

What happens when the family of the kid who has the symptom has not opted into testing? Your kids will still get sent home. So no, reason has not prevailed. They still need to rescind this guidance.

So will there be a different option in for the rapid tests vs. random surveillance testing? This is starting to get confusing, would have been nice if this had been ironed out before the school year started.

All of my neighbors, who are bright and good parents, are highly confused about the testing. For me personally, I would 100 percent opt in to the symptomatic rapid testing, but I don’t find a ton of value in the opt-in random surveillance testing. Of course this is all fluid, but the consent they’ve been circulating is a legal agreement with an outside contractor, Cian Diagnostics, for individual pcr tests. So I don’t see how signing their consent form could possibly be used to consent to rapid tests performed by a school health tech/dhhs nurse. I would think they would need separate consent but they have not clarified. Many details continue to need clarification. This is why when everyone was begging to see “a plan” a few weeks ago, we were hoping to head off some of these issues before school got underway. Alas…

[Anonymous]

1) MoCo DHHS gave an overly cautious directive to MCPS.

2) MCPS published it in all its glory, spelling out the ugly implications.

3) Firestorm ensues.

4) DHHS slams into reverse so fast they left the transmission in pieces, MCPS gets lots of testing.

Delightful little power play. Dr McKnight, for the win! You're on your way.

[Anonymous]

So everyone who doesn't opt in now gets their kids sent hope with symptoms.

Better opt in if you want your kid staying in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) MoCo DHHS gave an overly cautious directive to MCPS.

2) MCPS published it in all its glory, spelling out the ugly implications.

3) Firestorm ensues.

4) DHHS slams into reverse so fast they left the transmission in pieces, MCPS gets lots of testing.

Delightful little power play. Dr McKnight, for the win! You're on your way.[/quote

By making MCPS look spineless and incompetent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) MoCo DHHS gave an overly cautious directive to MCPS.

2) MCPS published it in all its glory, spelling out the ugly implications.

3) Firestorm ensues.

4) DHHS slams into reverse so fast they left the transmission in pieces, MCPS gets lots of testing.

Delightful little power play. Dr McKnight, for the win! You're on your way.

By making MCPS look spineless and incompetent?

By forcing DHHS's hand when DHHS had the cards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So everyone who doesn't opt in now gets their kids sent hope with symptoms.

Better opt in if you want your kid staying in school.

Surveillance testing != On-demand rapid testing after symptoms

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So everyone who doesn't opt in now gets their kids sent hope with symptoms.

Better opt in if you want your kid staying in school.

Surveillance testing != On-demand rapid testing after symptoms

But both require parental consent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) MoCo DHHS gave an overly cautious directive to MCPS.

2) MCPS published it in all its glory, spelling out the ugly implications.

3) Firestorm ensues.

4) DHHS slams into reverse so fast they left the transmission in pieces, MCPS gets lots of testing.

Delightful little power play. Dr McKnight, for the win! You're on your way.

By making MCPS look spineless and incompetent?

By forcing DHHS's hand when DHHS had the cards.

That makes no sense. DHHS got itself into this mess but MCPS looks terrible by not working with DHHS to say, hey this is a terrible idea. It looks like everyone was like "well Dr. Gayles said..." And parents are like use your damn brains people. Announcing a new quarantine policy on a Friday evening the first week of school? Please I don't buy that MCPS had no leverage to push back, they are just as incompetent as DHHS.

[Anonymous]

Also if this was all just some bureaucratic game it only makes MCPS look like it really, really DGAF about denying kids an education for no reason.