MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

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I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Is it?

Montgomery County covid dashboard says:

92.51 new cases per 100,000 residents (seven-day average), declining
2.7% test positivity (seven-day average), declining
-7.6% change in cases compared to previous seven-day period (i.e., declining)
71.7% of hospital in patient beds occupied
74.0% of hospital ICU beds in use
8.8% of hospital beds occupied by patients with covid

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/#dashboard

Shhh....don't let facts get in the way of the narrative.

THE SKY IS FALLING!!

I was reading that some school districts in Texas are closing down if the test positivity rate goes above 5%. Obviously Texas is a different situation than us regarding mask use and vaccination, but I wonder how far away we might be from going to hybrid or virtual. The state has not released any metrics for this.

Being vaccinated is not stopping COVID from spreading. The vaccination helps you fight covid when you get it.

No. Vaccines do slow spread. https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/08/421171/how-dangerous-delta-variant-heres-what-science-says

A recent analysis of breakthrough cases among UCSF employees and staff since Delta's rise showed that unvaccinated people remain five times more likely to become infected than people who are vaccinated, and 25 times more likely to be hospitalized.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Is it?

Montgomery County covid dashboard says:

92.51 new cases per 100,000 residents (seven-day average), declining
2.7% test positivity (seven-day average), declining
-7.6% change in cases compared to previous seven-day period (i.e., declining)
71.7% of hospital in patient beds occupied
74.0% of hospital ICU beds in use
8.8% of hospital beds occupied by patients with covid

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/#dashboard

Shhh....don't let facts get in the way of the narrative.

THE SKY IS FALLING!!

I was reading that some school districts in Texas are closing down if the test positivity rate goes above 5%. Obviously Texas is a different situation than us regarding mask use and vaccination, but I wonder how far away we might be from going to hybrid or virtual. The state has not released any metrics for this.

Being vaccinated is not stopping COVID from spreading. The vaccination helps you fight covid when you get it.

Right.

Which is why the best thing we could do is stop tying policy/responses to cases or case count. Hell, we should stop reporting on it.

Why are you bothered by discussions? Its silly to report. The only ones to report is private school parent thinking they should have an opinion on MCPS based off what their private school does which is not relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No one is forcing you to send your kid in-person, you could have applied to the VA but most likely were one of the posters wringing their hands in July about how robust it was going to be and missed the extended deadline. Or you could choose to homeschool.

VA is going well and different from last year. We have full classes/live teaching daily. They should have made testing mandatory if you want to be in person.

Woot!

How is that different from last year????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Is it?

Montgomery County covid dashboard says:

92.51 new cases per 100,000 residents (seven-day average), declining
2.7% test positivity (seven-day average), declining
-7.6% change in cases compared to previous seven-day period (i.e., declining)
71.7% of hospital in patient beds occupied
74.0% of hospital ICU beds in use
8.8% of hospital beds occupied by patients with covid

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/#dashboard

Shhh....don't let facts get in the way of the narrative.

THE SKY IS FALLING!!

I was reading that some school districts in Texas are closing down if the test positivity rate goes above 5%. Obviously Texas is a different situation than us regarding mask use and vaccination, but I wonder how far away we might be from going to hybrid or virtual. The state has not released any metrics for this.

Being vaccinated is not stopping COVID from spreading. The vaccination helps you fight covid when you get it.

No. Vaccines do slow spread. https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/08/421171/how-dangerous-delta-variant-heres-what-science-says

A recent analysis of breakthrough cases among UCSF employees and staff since Delta's rise showed that unvaccinated people remain five times more likely to become infected than people who are vaccinated, and 25 times more likely to be hospitalized.

That report is far too small to be meaningful

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No one is forcing you to send your kid in-person, you could have applied to the VA but most likely were one of the posters wringing their hands in July about how robust it was going to be and missed the extended deadline. Or you could choose to homeschool.

Right back at you if you don’t “consent” to have your kids tested during a pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my. So now I’m hearing the outdoor lunch people are advocating for opt-out surveillance testing to nip a symptomatic spread in the bud, the togetheragain people want to keep surveillance testing opt out (so they can opt out: don’t ask don’t tell), and everyone wants rapid testing for kids with a “symptom” so we can all avoid the whole class quarantine. And MCPS just wants to send everyone home to fend for themselves. Is that where we are, friends?

People behaving responsibly will be ok with testing as they know its the right thing to do. But those who want to live life as normal will refuse testing as they just don't care and if they kids get sick they will send them to school anyway as they don't want to parent their kids. Those are the kids we need targeted for testing.

The fend for yourself is one reason we choose VA. But, there is no other good way to do it as parents don't want hybrid/concurrent and wanted back to normal. Back to normal never gave any instructions or for us, even make up assignments.

I’ll opt in once MCPS gets their story straight. 18 months and they couldn’t figure any of this out sooner? Sounds like the new quarantine plan was cooked up by Gayles while vacationing in France, as a grenade to throw on his way out the door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No one is forcing you to send your kid in-person, you could have applied to the VA but most likely were one of the posters wringing their hands in July about how robust it was going to be and missed the extended deadline. Or you could choose to homeschool.

VA is going well and different from last year. We have full classes/live teaching daily. They should have made testing mandatory if you want to be in person.

Woot!

How is that different from last year????

About double the actual class time/live in person. Last year we had two hours of teaching time per class per week and half that time was to do work in class kids didn't do was homework so in all reality between the mental health check in and work it was about 30 minutes of class time. We also have daily academic support after school. Many more kids have camera's on and engaging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh my. So now I’m hearing the outdoor lunch people are advocating for opt-out surveillance testing to nip a symptomatic spread in the bud, the togetheragain people want to keep surveillance testing opt out (so they can opt out: don’t ask don’t tell), and everyone wants rapid testing for kids with a “symptom” so we can all avoid the whole class quarantine. And MCPS just wants to send everyone home to fend for themselves. Is that where we are, friends?

People behaving responsibly will be ok with testing as they know its the right thing to do. But those who want to live life as normal will refuse testing as they just don't care and if they kids get sick they will send them to school anyway as they don't want to parent their kids. Those are the kids we need targeted for testing.

The fend for yourself is one reason we choose VA. But, there is no other good way to do it as parents don't want hybrid/concurrent and wanted back to normal. Back to normal never gave any instructions or for us, even make up assignments.

I’ll opt in once MCPS gets their story straight. 18 months and they couldn’t figure any of this out sooner? Sounds like the new quarantine plan was cooked up by Gayles while vacationing in France, as a grenade to throw on his way out the door.

Don't opt in but don't complain about the quarantine and having to get your kids testing. Or, the lack of instruction during quarantine as its the fault of families like you who refuse to be careful. Gayles failed us and all public officials should think about their behavior but they aren't. Nor are the families/parents or teachers/staff so we'll have spread and quarantines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

If parents consent to testing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything is good! There will be testing. Reason prevailed. Kids will not quarantine for “new onset headaches”. Gayles is leaving and Elrich is still well Elrich.

If parents consent to testing.

If they don't their kids go home and into quarantine.

[Anonymous]

The clarification was something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No one is forcing you to send your kid in-person, you could have applied to the VA but most likely were one of the posters wringing their hands in July about how robust it was going to be and missed the extended deadline. Or you could choose to homeschool.

VA is going well and different from last year. We have full classes/live teaching daily. They should have made testing mandatory if you want to be in person.

Woot!

How is that different from last year????

About double the actual class time/live in person. Last year we had two hours of teaching time per class per week and half that time was to do work in class kids didn't do was homework so in all reality between the mental health check in and work it was about 30 minutes of class time. We also have daily academic support after school. Many more kids have camera's on and engaging.

Sounds like you had a completely different experience of virtual last year which was five hours minimum of direct teaching every day by Wed for my kids. Doesn’t sound any different from your description except that Wed is a school day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh my. So now I’m hearing the outdoor lunch people are advocating for opt-out surveillance testing to nip a symptomatic spread in the bud, the togetheragain people want to keep surveillance testing opt out (so they can opt out: don’t ask don’t tell), and everyone wants rapid testing for kids with a “symptom” so we can all avoid the whole class quarantine. And MCPS just wants to send everyone home to fend for themselves. Is that where we are, friends?

People behaving responsibly will be ok with testing as they know its the right thing to do. But those who want to live life as normal will refuse testing as they just don't care and if they kids get sick they will send them to school anyway as they don't want to parent their kids. Those are the kids we need targeted for testing.

The fend for yourself is one reason we choose VA. But, there is no other good way to do it as parents don't want hybrid/concurrent and wanted back to normal. Back to normal never gave any instructions or for us, even make up assignments.

I’ll opt in once MCPS gets their story straight. 18 months and they couldn’t figure any of this out sooner? Sounds like the new quarantine plan was cooked up by Gayles while vacationing in France, as a grenade to throw on his way out the door.

Don't opt in but don't complain about the quarantine and having to get your kids testing. Or, the lack of instruction during quarantine as its the fault of families like you who refuse to be careful. Gayles failed us and all public officials should think about their behavior but they aren't. Nor are the families/parents or teachers/staff so we'll have spread and quarantines.

Lots of assumptions in your post. Real sorry I have to work in person- is that what you mean by not being careful, that I didn’t think ahead to get a cushy telework job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, typo. Together again people want opt-IN because they think no one will opt in.

Not a TogetherAgain person, but performing medical tests on a minor without the consent of the guardian is pretty sketchy.

I would hope people would opt-in. But we can't lose sight of our ethics and morality.

You definitely need consent.

Silence is not consent

They’ve done it in DC

That doesn't make it ethical or right.

It's wrong to conduct a test on a minor without the parent's consent.

These things matter, even in a pandemic

No, it’s actually the right thing to do in a pandemic where others are placed into contact with you via something other than their own free choice (which is the nature of public education generally, more so with no virtual option available).

No one is forcing you to send your kid in-person, you could have applied to the VA but most likely were one of the posters wringing their hands in July about how robust it was going to be and missed the extended deadline. Or you could choose to homeschool.

Well, if no one is forcing anyone to go to school, then opt-out testing shouldn’t be any kind of problem. If you don’t like it, don’t go to school. No one’s forcing you.