What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

I'm pretty sure that is critical

Yes. Critical of the claim, which I found implicit in all those pages, that Barca's kicking butt with all these players they've attracted from elsewhere.

Kicking butt? Can you please link to that or quote it? This is yet another statement that when I read it, I almost feel I need to double check and make sure I'm still on the Barca thread. Who said they are kicking butt?

The closest I recall and can find is that the teams are at varying levels with varying success, with some teams and players that are very good (my paraphrase).

Feel free to email me if you still don't understand how those pages gave that impression.

So it was an impression you had; your interpretation of .... something somewhere. Got it. I thought you actually read that. Now we all know you were reading into it beyond what was stated. And you may think I'm the one that has been going back and forth with you, so you just want to run away, but I'm not. I'm a different poster. I was legit scratching my head. I don't know you outside of this forum, so I can only judge your "objectiveness" based on what you post here. So far, this last round that started with your "gist of it" post, I can't see where you are coming from, despite going back, reading over posts and trying.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it was an impression you had; your interpretation of .... something somewhere. Got it. I thought you actually read that. Now we all know you were reading into it beyond what was stated. And you may think I'm the one that has been going back and forth with you, so you just want to run away, but I'm not. I'm a different poster. I was legit scratching my head. I don't know you outside of this forum, so I can only judge your "objectiveness" based on what you post here. So far, this last round that started with your "gist of it" post, I can't see where you are coming from, despite going back, reading over posts and trying.

Try harder.

Seriously -- I've posted examples of everything.

I've devoted a couple of hours to this nonsense now. That's enough. I'm starting to think this is some weird effort to harass me, and I'm done with it.

And frankly, it's starting to reflect poorly on Barca. This is like arguing with Trump-bots on Twitter. You guys sound like you're in a cult.

I'm not going to do any back and forth with you. Speaking only for myself, I'm convinced you misunderstood a post somewhere and haven't realized it yet. But it's not worth an argument.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."

I'm pretty sure that is critical

Yes. Critical of the claim, which I found implicit in all those pages, that Barca's kicking butt with all these players they've attracted from elsewhere.

Kicking butt? Can you please link to that or quote it? This is yet another statement that when I read it, I almost feel I need to double check and make sure I'm still on the Barca thread. Who said they are kicking butt?

The closest I recall and can find is that the teams are at varying levels with varying success, with some teams and players that are very good (my paraphrase).

Feel free to email me if you still don't understand how those pages gave that impression.

When guys like you put words in people’s mouths it is easy to see how one could get that impression.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it was an impression you had; your interpretation of .... something somewhere. Got it. I thought you actually read that. Now we all know you were reading into it beyond what was stated. And you may think I'm the one that has been going back and forth with you, so you just want to run away, but I'm not. I'm a different poster. I was legit scratching my head. I don't know you outside of this forum, so I can only judge your "objectiveness" based on what you post here. So far, this last round that started with your "gist of it" post, I can't see where you are coming from, despite going back, reading over posts and trying.

Try harder.

Seriously -- I've posted examples of everything.

I've devoted a couple of hours to this nonsense now. That's enough. I'm starting to think this is some weird effort to harass me, and I'm done with it.

And frankly, it's starting to reflect poorly on Barca. This is like arguing with Trump-bots on Twitter. You guys sound like you're in a cult.

There are several others here who have had the same experience and come to the same conclusions on various topics within the thread. You aren’t alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was not discrediting that any one individual had joined. He was essentially saying that if several DA players had joined, which was the original statement, why were the results so poor. Now, he’s demonstrated the poor results in his follow up message. The results are all facts, not dishonest in any way. And it was a proper question to ask, based on the way the thread read

I am not a previous poster, but Barca has different level teams. Some teams are strong and did well in the top divisions of EDP (2001s, 2003s), while other teams are still developing their game to reach a higher level (2004s, 2005s). I am not sure why an assumption was made that VDA players joined a team with "poor" results. My son's team has thee players that came from VDA and the team did well in EDP's top division. The new players are a good fit with the team. So while the question can be asked, it is premised on a faulty assumption or misunderstanding that former VDA players were placed on one of the younger teams. This is simply not the case. SVDA players joined a strong team that had strong results in the top division of EDP.

And this where the spin starts. EDP - in Fall - only has a handful of HS age teams since most states in EDP's area play HS soccer in the Fall. So you have a handful of teams, barely making up a division or two. So touting your results in "EDP's top division" is EXTREMELY misleading when there was actually only 1 or 2 divisions. I'm not sure Barca's 03s and 01s are (relatively) better than their 04s and 05s. The 04s and 05s struggled in EDP, but they were playing 'legit' EDP competition.

The 01s are very good. It’s not spin. You starting a sentence with “I’m not sure”, is.

So (overly) defensive. My point is that last season's EDP results shouldn't be used to make that case; your team's results against teams from outside this area are probably more impressive than EDP league play, correct? On the flip side, I don't think it's fair to say Barca's 04s and 05s are awful because they struggled against some tough EDP competition, because there aren't a lot of teams in the area who would fair much better.

I was not being defensive at all. Just found it funny how you accuse someone of “spinning”, then did so yourself.

Stating facts about the level of EDP for Fall HS age groups isn't spin, it's acknowledging reality. I've heard great things about Barca's 05s, so I stand by my point that they might (for their age group) be as good as their 01s and 03s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was not discrediting that any one individual had joined. He was essentially saying that if several DA players had joined, which was the original statement, why were the results so poor. Now, he’s demonstrated the poor results in his follow up message. The results are all facts, not dishonest in any way. And it was a proper question to ask, based on the way the thread read

I am not a previous poster, but Barca has different level teams. Some teams are strong and did well in the top divisions of EDP (2001s, 2003s), while other teams are still developing their game to reach a higher level (2004s, 2005s). I am not sure why an assumption was made that VDA players joined a team with "poor" results. My son's team has thee players that came from VDA and the team did well in EDP's top division. The new players are a good fit with the team. So while the question can be asked, it is premised on a faulty assumption or misunderstanding that former VDA players were placed on one of the younger teams. This is simply not the case. SVDA players joined a strong team that had strong results in the top division of EDP.

And this where the spin starts. EDP - in Fall - only has a handful of HS age teams since most states in EDP's area play HS soccer in the Fall. So you have a handful of teams, barely making up a division or two. So touting your results in "EDP's top division" is EXTREMELY misleading when there was actually only 1 or 2 divisions. I'm not sure Barca's 03s and 01s are (relatively) better than their 04s and 05s. The 04s and 05s struggled in EDP, but they were playing 'legit' EDP competition.

The 01s are very good. It’s not spin. You starting a sentence with “I’m not sure”, is.

So (overly) defensive. My point is that last season's EDP results shouldn't be used to make that case; your team's results against teams from outside this area are probably more impressive than EDP league play, correct? On the flip side, I don't think it's fair to say Barca's 04s and 05s are awful because they struggled against some tough EDP competition, because there aren't a lot of teams in the area who would fair much better.

I was not being defensive at all. Just found it funny how you accuse someone of “spinning”, then did so yourself.

Stating facts about the level of EDP for Fall HS age groups isn't spin, it's acknowledging reality. I've heard great things about Barca's 05s, so I stand by my point that they might (for their age group) be as good as their 01s and 03s.

What reality? Should they have circumvented playing the fall season and waited to do league play when there’s enough teams to satisfy you? The teams that are in that EDP division are no donkeys, and you also have their tournament record to go off. It’s pretty obvious that it’s a very good team. I’ll take your word on the 03s and 05s as well, but you don’t need to discredit the league to get your point across. I also agree with what someone else said that the club should look into joining other leagues that are commensurate with the actual talent level of the teams, such as NCSL or ODSL for developmental teams.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

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When guys like you put words in people’s mouths it is easy to see how one could get that impression.

Dude, I've put on 10 pounds in the last 48 hours from all the words being put in my mouth.

Let ... it ... go.

It would have been funnier if you said you put on ten tons with all the words put in your mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
When guys like you put words in people’s mouths it is easy to see how one could get that impression.

Dude, I've put on 10 pounds in the last 48 hours from all the words being put in my mouth.

Let ... it ... go.

It would have been funnier if you said you put on ten tons with all the words put in your mouth.

[Anonymous]

Since when is VYS called Barca? Am I on the wrong thread?

[Anonymous]

Completely new poster here. I've read every single word of this Barca thread. Based on the general over-the-top-ness of the pro-Barca parents who have written here, I would never consider joining your club. And I love the Evergreen facilities. They are gorgeous. But not gorgeous enough to consider sharing a sideline with you nutballs.

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares if you join or not, and you’ll be getting the exact same thing at any of the major clubs in the area. It’s a problem of the culture in this area, not a club-centric problem. People are just like that around here, which is why everything that’s posted on here, in any thread, should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Completely new poster here. I've read every single word of this Barca thread. Based on the general over-the-top-ness of the pro-Barca parents who have written here, I would never consider joining your club. And I love the Evergreen facilities. They are gorgeous. But not gorgeous enough to consider sharing a sideline with you nutballs.

You've read 80 pages - over 1180 posts - about a club you "would never consider joining"?

Who's the nutball?

[Anonymous]

The only reason this thread is so active is because the clubs value appears to measured by the number of pages here. Only 13 more to surpass the mighty VYS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Completely new poster here. I've read every single word of this Barca thread. Based on the general over-the-top-ness of the pro-Barca parents who have written here, I would never consider joining your club. And I love the Evergreen facilities. They are gorgeous. But not gorgeous enough to consider sharing a sideline with you nutballs.

You've read 80 pages - over 1180 posts - about a club you "would never consider joining"?

Who's the nutball?

Not in one setting a-hole. I also read every page of the VYS thread and dumb thread about what leggings kids should wear when playing soccer. I love soccer. My kid loves soccer. We are always on the lookout for potential new clubs (ours is mediocre).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Completely new poster here. I've read every single word of this Barca thread. Based on the general over-the-top-ness of the pro-Barca parents who have written here, I would never consider joining your club. And I love the Evergreen facilities. They are gorgeous. But not gorgeous enough to consider sharing a sideline with you nutballs.

You've read 80 pages - over 1180 posts - about a club you "would never consider joining"?

Who's the nutball?

Not in one setting a-hole. I also read every page of the VYS thread and dumb thread about what leggings kids should wear when playing soccer. I love soccer. My kid loves soccer. We are always on the lookout for potential new clubs (ours is mediocre).

>sitting.