MoCo council results

[Anonymous]

Jesus, is MoCo doomed with the way the primaries are turning out for county council? It looks like the county is on the fast track to becoming San Francisco at this rate. What should we expect? More crime? Decreasing quality of schools? Increasing taxes?

Very worried at the moment.

[Anonymous]

The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, is MoCo doomed with the way the primaries are turning out for county council? It looks like the county is on the fast track to becoming San Francisco at this rate. What should we expect? More crime? Decreasing quality of schools? Increasing taxes?

Very worried at the moment.

? Not as bad as all that, but if you think it is, moving is a lot easier than trying to move mountains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, is MoCo doomed with the way the primaries are turning out for county council? It looks like the county is on the fast track to becoming San Francisco at this rate. What should we expect? More crime? Decreasing quality of schools? Increasing taxes?

Very worried at the moment.

? Not as bad as all that, but if you think it is, moving is a lot easier than trying to move mountains.

DP, yea, after the kids are done with school (4 more years), we are moving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

[Anonymous]

For public safety, I have them divided like this:

Pro public safety
Albornoz
Katz
Luedtke
Balcombe
Friedson

Neutral (could be swayed either way)
Glass
Fani Gonzalez
Sayles

Anti Public Safety
Jawando
Mink
Stewart

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

Here’s the report. It’s definitely worth a read:
https://ele4a.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

Essentially, it asks for reductions in force (Wheaton, Silver Spring. SROs, Drug Enforcement squad, etc). It also calls for using automated systems for traffic enforcement, therefore reducing police based on those saved man-hours. Interestingly, it ALSO wants officers to ride in pairs instead of alone, meaning even fewer cars to respond to calls. Most alarmingly, the report calls to “reduce [police] contact with residents,” which runs counter to logic. Crime won’t go down by “reducing contact,” just enforcement.

It also calls for dramatic changes to hiring practices, which are all great except there aren’t many people wanting to apply to MCPD anymore. Twenty years ago, it was a very competitive process. Now? The county gets recruit classes of 10-12, nowhere near enough to fill vacancies.

This is a real problem. I would feel better if these new council members would commit to learning about the police by visiting the academy, talking to officers, doing ride alongs, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

yea, let's reduce the police force in high crime areas. That'll teach those criminals. Or maybe progressives think that the criminals will feel less threatened so they'll be less likely to commit a crime? I honestly don't understand how their mind works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

Why do you lump Glass in with the likes of Jawando?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

yea, let's reduce the police force in high crime areas. That'll teach those criminals. Or maybe progressives think that the criminals will feel less threatened so they'll be less likely to commit a crime? I honestly don't understand how their mind works.

They are more concerned with people who commit crime than with victims. That's really all there is to it. Jawando's last campaign mailer bragged about all the police reform he did, to make the community safe (ostensibly safe from police, but no mention of being safe from community violence)

I don't know about Stewart. I hear TP Police do everything she says. She won't have that power at the council level

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

Here’s the report. It’s definitely worth a read:
https://ele4a.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

Essentially, it asks for reductions in force (Wheaton, Silver Spring. SROs, Drug Enforcement squad, etc). It also calls for using automated systems for traffic enforcement, therefore reducing police based on those saved man-hours. Interestingly, it ALSO wants officers to ride in pairs instead of alone, meaning even fewer cars to respond to calls. Most alarmingly, the report calls to “reduce [police] contact with residents,” which runs counter to logic. Crime won’t go down by “reducing contact,” just enforcement.

It also calls for dramatic changes to hiring practices, which are all great except there aren’t many people wanting to apply to MCPD anymore. Twenty years ago, it was a very competitive process. Now? The county gets recruit classes of 10-12, nowhere near enough to fill vacancies.

This is a real problem. I would feel better if these new council members would commit to learning about the police by visiting the academy, talking to officers, doing ride alongs, etc.

Bernice Mireku-North was a co chair of that task force, and made some of the harshest recommendations. She is in 2nd place right now in the State's Attorney's race. So apparently a lot of people feel the way she does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

Here’s the report. It’s definitely worth a read:
https://ele4a.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

Essentially, it asks for reductions in force (Wheaton, Silver Spring. SROs, Drug Enforcement squad, etc). It also calls for using automated systems for traffic enforcement, therefore reducing police based on those saved man-hours. Interestingly, it ALSO wants officers to ride in pairs instead of alone, meaning even fewer cars to respond to calls. Most alarmingly, the report calls to “reduce [police] contact with residents,” which runs counter to logic. Crime won’t go down by “reducing contact,” just enforcement.

It also calls for dramatic changes to hiring practices, which are all great except there aren’t many people wanting to apply to MCPD anymore. Twenty years ago, it was a very competitive process. Now? The county gets recruit classes of 10-12, nowhere near enough to fill vacancies.

This is a real problem. I would feel better if these new council members would commit to learning about the police by visiting the academy, talking to officers, doing ride alongs, etc.

Bernice Mireku-North was a co chair of that task force, and made some of the harshest recommendations. She is in 2nd place right now in the State's Attorney's race. So apparently a lot of people feel the way she does.

She trails by 28%, so she is a distant 2nd place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

yea, let's reduce the police force in high crime areas. That'll teach those criminals. Or maybe progressives think that the criminals will feel less threatened so they'll be less likely to commit a crime? I honestly don't understand how their mind works.

I'll explain. I don't want to live in a police state. Society can't be run by police. We need to improve society to take care of the problems causing all this crime. We can't just continue pumping out criminals and pumping out police. That's not a decent, intelligent, thought-out solution, and not the kind of society I want to live in. Also not the kind of society we used to have. Police are not the answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best hope is opposing blocks that result in something like this.

The “reasonable block”:
- Balcombe
- Sayles
- Katz
- Friedson
- Albornoz

The “worrying block”:
- Stewart
- Mink
- Jawando
- Fani Gonzalez
- Glass

The “tie breaker”:
- Luedtke

I’m definitely concerned about the “worrying block.” Kate Stewart’s website says she wants to work to fully implement the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force recommendations. The police are already so short-staffed, and that report calls for further reductions. Specifically, a 50% reduction in force is suggested for Wheaton and Silver Spring, two districts experiencing an increase in crime. I know she’ll have support on this council, so I worry about how this will affect people living in those districts AND how it will affect remaining officers.

Sounds like a disaster.

yea, let's reduce the police force in high crime areas. That'll teach those criminals. Or maybe progressives think that the criminals will feel less threatened so they'll be less likely to commit a crime? I honestly don't understand how their mind works.

I'll explain. I don't want to live in a police state. Society can't be run by police. We need to improve society to take care of the problems causing all this crime. We can't just continue pumping out criminals and pumping out police. That's not a decent, intelligent, thought-out solution, and not the kind of society I want to live in. Also not the kind of society we used to have. Police are not the answer.

Where do police fit in? We can provide better mental health services, improve k-12 education, increase access to health care, work toward more affordable housing… we can do all of this, and there will still be crime. It’s very naive to assume otherwise. What then? Who responds? You say police aren’t the answer, but be logical. Sometimes they are the ONLY answer. I assume you live somewhere with low crime. I don’t. I feel better with police in my neighborhood. I’m well aware many of my neighbors do, as well. Supporting police is not equal to calling for a police state. (Who is actually calling for that anyway? That’s simply hyperbole. We just want elected officials to work WITH police instead of making the job so undesirable that we can’t even hire any, which is where we are.)