ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Without giving away too much info. A board member for my club told me they had to make a decision between MLSN/GA and ECNL/ECNL/RL last night. He wasn’t allowed to say what our club chose because we will have a club announcement about it.

But both leagues are starting to finalize their platforms going forward.

What are your club affiliations now?

He wouldn’t tell me that. Because my club will announce Friday. We are currently a ECRL boys and GA girls club.

tomorrow?

Yes.

All 713 pages of this thread have been leading up to this.

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If ECNL is bold, every team plays up and brings back the composite team for the oldest next season only.

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They aren’t bold.

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Another club in our area making an announcement tomorrow. CEO won’t say what it’s about…my guess is MLSNext/GA. Announcement 11am tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:They aren’t bold.

That’s true.

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Anonymous wrote:Another club in our area making an announcement tomorrow. CEO won’t say what it’s about…my guess is MLSNext/GA. Announcement 11am tomorrow.

What club?

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Not my club and not a big one

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Day 1 US Soccer AGM ✅
No new news

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Anonymous wrote:Another club in our area making an announcement tomorrow. CEO won’t say what it’s about…my guess is MLSNext/GA. Announcement 11am tomorrow.

Hmmmm ... Our club is making an 11 am announcement, too. (We're currently a USYS club with E64).

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Anonymous wrote:Day 1 US Soccer AGM ✅
No new news

I’m probably over thinking this. They did announce the new ECNL 2 league. It says it’s U13-18 for 25/26 season.

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What is ECNL 2 and isn’t that ECRL? Is ECNL 2 above ECRL?

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Anonymous wrote:What is ECNL 2 and isn’t that ECRL? Is ECNL 2 above ECRL?

It’s the new invite only ECRL league

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Anonymous wrote:https://learning.ussoccer.com/articles/hip/article/relative-age-effect-tid-process

I went to the US Soccer learning center to just check it out and see if there was anything new. I found this article on the front page and this study was done in 2024. If you look at the data you can see why US soccer is interested in changing registration. The percentage of 4th qtr kids at talent ID camps has dropped preciptiously since they switched to BY. The distribution among each qtr was pretty even until you got down to the 2009 which at the time of the study was U13. U- 18 had around 25% 4th qtr participants, U-13 had around 7%. In 5 years they lost almost all 4th qtr kids, thats crazy.

I'm sorry that was just the data from clubs. Data from the talent ID center was even more drastic. It does seem pretty even on the YNT though.

Yea…this is a follow-on to previous finnegan research.

Nothing changed. Clubs suck at Talent ID. NT are solid at it. The older the cohort, the more even the distribution. Etc etc etc.

Nothing mind blowing or surprising in this research. You move the window to SY,
And in about 7 years Q2 and part of Q3 look a lot like Q4 does currently.

Clubs suck at talent ID because parents pay them to suck at it, and because lots of coaches are complete soccer idiots. But be honest, would you go through 3-4 years of losing more matches than not so the club could properly develop your kid?

But previous to the BY switch, we were.....SY. During that time all 4 qtrs were almost evenly represented.

That would be interesting. Please show the evidence of this.

https://www.termedia.pl/Journal/-78/pdf-52572-10?filename=22_03664_Article.pdf

I can't link the graph, but it's about page 5 of this pdf.

You’re confusing “potential rating” and absolute distribution.

But more importantly, you skipped the methodology section. This was data collected across the 2021-2022 season. BY. So the more even distribution was a factor of the BY change.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration

Moving forward, U.S. Soccer’s Youth Council will serve as the primary leader in collecting feedback, and the Council will work closely with U.S. Soccer staff to make sure that we adequately support our members and ecosystem stakeholders through this transition. Check back to this page for updates on the above resources.

What I suspected - a whole lot of nothing from US soccer. We just have to wait on the leagues and then US soccer will have resources to help answer questions. Hopefully this will give the leagues the green light to announce their plans.

Also seems to shut the door on any other options than BY, SY 9/1 and SY 8/1. Also specifies that recruiting to national team will be BY.

Of course USSF is going to give a whole lot of nothing!

Although USSF leaves lots to be desired, they have a bunch of member bodies that do nothing but undermine, sneak around rules, and use their positions for short term monetization at the expense of long term health of the game.

This whole age change debacle has been USSF basically going around the room saying “Fu, Fu, Fu, Fu and Fu…and I’m out.”

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Anonymous wrote:What did we say! Be ready with the new age change players will not be moved up or down right away. Thanks to the new ECNL league 2 coming soon clubs will need bigger rosters

The ECNL Regional League – Golden State will support deeper player pools and pathways for existing ECNL clubs, creating a 2nd team league for these clubs. This will create an improved competition and development environment for these players aligned with the ECNL competition schedule of their clubs, and will allow ECNL directors to manage player pools effectively from game to game each weekend, rewarding player development and performance in real time. “The creation of a 2nd team league for our ECNL member clubs helps to create a true player development hierarchy within our clubs for promotion to the highest level of national competition in the ECNL,” said Andy Mittler, Mustang Soccer ECNL Director.

ECNL is not going to bloat rosters when college roster spots are shrinking too. The whole point of the sub-leagues isn’t to increase college placement, it’s to increase revenues via non-collegiate pathway athletes. Think of it’s more like ECNL providing a nationwide classic league, opposed to the state and USYS run classic leagues.

The clubs are too myopic to see the issue with that, but at the end of the day it’s ECNL taking a product that many clubs already utilize to pay the bills (classic / NPL / DPL sub leagues) and bringing them inside the ECNL umbrella, and then adding on a premium for the branding. They’re taking wallet share from USYS / State affiliations AND their member clubs.