Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

"He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate,” Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich wrote on X, formerly Twitter, quoting a rabbinic adage. “I demand clarification from the prime minister on who gave this immoral order...”

He said that about evacuating orphaned children. This is also the guy behind the deliberate starvation strategy. The stance of the Israeli Government is crystal clear. It is immoral to save children. Deliberately cruel collective punishment is what they demand.

Bibi and his cartoonishly evil allies are harming Israel more than anything Hamas could ever do.

[Anonymous]

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They don't actually want a ceasefire, they want all the "occupier colonizers" to leave or be killed. They fully support rockets still being fired at Israel.

People mention 10/7, but not the rockets that were being fired regularly before that. Will a ceasefire include no rocket fire? Or is it only Israel that must stand down?

It's almost as if the illegal immigrants to the Levant have been the peace-loving, freedom-loving good guys they have been selling us on all these years! Look guys, the only bad acts in the region in the past 100 years were these desperation Hail Mary rockets (really crude pipe bombs with limited to no aerial capacity) from the natives! The immigrants have been minding their own business, definitely not working through a 100+ year plan to dispossess others of their land.

One vote for not including rockets in ceasefire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They don't actually want a ceasefire, they want all the "occupier colonizers" to leave or be killed. They fully support rockets still being fired at Israel.

People mention 10/7, but not the rockets that were being fired regularly before that. Will a ceasefire include no rocket fire? Or is it only Israel that must stand down?

It's almost as if the illegal immigrants to the Levant have been the peace-loving, freedom-loving good guys they have been selling us on all these years! Look guys, the only bad acts in the region in the past 100 years were these desperation Hail Mary rockets (really crude pipe bombs with limited to no aerial capacity) from the natives! The immigrants have been minding their own business, definitely not working through a 100+ year plan to dispossess others of their land.

One vote for not including rockets in ceasefire.

No, actually. It's a vote for including them in a ceasefire. It's that I simply won't abide by some Zionist trying to change the subject and convince others that those rockets make it onto the list of the Top 200 things wrong with the conditions in the region right now. The intention behind the rockets is evil born of desperation. They cause some level of inconvenience. From time-to-time, they pose a danger. But 99.9% of the time, they are benign.

Therefore, my attention is squarely on the evil that isn't born of desperation, that is vicious and unrelenting, and that poses a danger 24/7 to Palestinians, and in the big picture, to Israelis, too. 100.0% of the time, those issues are malignant and far from benign. The rockets can be part of any solution, but they aren't front and center by a long shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They don't actually want a ceasefire, they want all the "occupier colonizers" to leave or be killed. They fully support rockets still being fired at Israel.

People mention 10/7, but not the rockets that were being fired regularly before that. Will a ceasefire include no rocket fire? Or is it only Israel that must stand down?

It's almost as if the illegal immigrants to the Levant have been the peace-loving, freedom-loving good guys they have been selling us on all these years! Look guys, the only bad acts in the region in the past 100 years were these desperation Hail Mary rockets (really crude pipe bombs with limited to no aerial capacity) from the natives! The immigrants have been minding their own business, definitely not working through a 100+ year plan to dispossess others of their land.

One vote for not including rockets in ceasefire.

No, actually. It's a vote for including them in a ceasefire. It's that I simply won't abide by some Zionist trying to change the subject and convince others that those rockets make it onto the list of the Top 200 things wrong with the conditions in the region right now. The intention behind the rockets is evil born of desperation. They cause some level of inconvenience. From time-to-time, they pose a danger. But 99.9% of the time, they are benign.

Therefore, my attention is squarely on the evil that isn't born of desperation, that is vicious and unrelenting, and that poses a danger 24/7 to Palestinians, and in the big picture, to Israelis, too. 100.0% of the time, those issues are malignant and far from benign. The rockets can be part of any solution, but they aren't front and center by a long shot.

The rockets are *not* benign. Remember, it was one of these rockets that crashed outside a hospital and was immidately assessed to have been a "US-supplied JDAM" and it was claimed the hospital was completely leveled and 400 people killed by it. So if Hamas themselves claim they are big dangerous things then that is what they are. And Hamas has been launching these by the thousands at Israel, for years. Were it not for the Iron Dome, there would probably be tens of thousands of Israeli casualties as a result. Just because the rockets are shot down before they can strike homes, supermarkets, schools, theaters, etc does not make them "benign." And shame on you for trying to downplay and gaslight about the rockets. Any ceasefire needs to include a cessation of rockets too.

[Anonymous]

There’s such an imbalance of power and resources in the region and it seems like dozens of Palestinians, including kids starving to death and left to perish from their wounds, die for every Israeli casualty.

I can’t imagine the bitterness and hatred that Israel is perpetuating on the region. I do know that tens of thousands of Jews would have to die equally violent deaths before I’d feel the slightest bit of sympathy for them ever again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s such an imbalance of power and resources in the region and it seems like dozens of Palestinians, including kids starving to death and left to perish from their wounds, die for every Israeli casualty.

I can’t imagine the bitterness and hatred that Israel is perpetuating on the region. I do know that tens of thousands of Jews would have to die equally violent deaths before I’d feel the slightest bit of sympathy for them ever again.

jews? oh or did you “mean” israelis? thanks for letting yourself known.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s such an imbalance of power and resources in the region and it seems like dozens of Palestinians, including kids starving to death and left to perish from their wounds, die for every Israeli casualty.

I can’t imagine the bitterness and hatred that Israel is perpetuating on the region. I do know that tens of thousands of Jews would have to die equally violent deaths before I’d feel the slightest bit of sympathy for them ever again.

The bolded doesn't solve anything and only perpetuates the cycle of violence. What needs to happen is an abrupt cessation of all U.S. financial support (of any kind) to the entire region (other than monitor funding to rebuild Gaza), and the U.S. to voluntarily abstain from using its veto power on regional matters at the U.N. Security Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s such an imbalance of power and resources in the region and it seems like dozens of Palestinians, including kids starving to death and left to perish from their wounds, die for every Israeli casualty.

I can’t imagine the bitterness and hatred that Israel is perpetuating on the region. I do know that tens of thousands of Jews would have to die equally violent deaths before I’d feel the slightest bit of sympathy for them ever again.

You know what I find fascinating. I don’t hear any Gazans call for this.

They all say they want to go home and stop the war , but I don’t see them call for genocide of Jews and they all say God is good and ask for his protection. Such faith during unimaginable trauma.

I think the Jews are lucky to have Palestinians as neighbors . If anybody else, they’d be highly unsafe especially with the sentiments you just shared.

I hope Israel is able to help as many Gazans as it can and stop the ugliness of the right wing government and people that called to wipe out Gaza completely .

People like that and Hamas are the problems

[Anonymous]

And for anyone that thinks what I posted is ridiculous, just ponder on the fact that there even are hostages alive able to be released. I am sure all those people thought for certain Hamas was going to take them to Gaza and kill them.

Hamas is a big problem and so is Israel’s government/military but I think both people are lucky to have each other in some weird way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s such an imbalance of power and resources in the region and it seems like dozens of Palestinians, including kids starving to death and left to perish from their wounds, die for every Israeli casualty.

I can’t imagine the bitterness and hatred that Israel is perpetuating on the region. I do know that tens of thousands of Jews would have to die equally violent deaths before I’d feel the slightest bit of sympathy for them ever again.

Went on vacation for a few days but glad to see the same antisemites are still here trolling!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They don't actually want a ceasefire, they want all the "occupier colonizers" to leave or be killed. They fully support rockets still being fired at Israel.

People mention 10/7, but not the rockets that were being fired regularly before that. Will a ceasefire include no rocket fire? Or is it only Israel that must stand down?

It's almost as if the illegal immigrants to the Levant have been the peace-loving, freedom-loving good guys they have been selling us on all these years! Look guys, the only bad acts in the region in the past 100 years were these desperation Hail Mary rockets (really crude pipe bombs with limited to no aerial capacity) from the natives! The immigrants have been minding their own business, definitely not working through a 100+ year plan to dispossess others of their land.

One vote for not including rockets in ceasefire.

No, actually. It's a vote for including them in a ceasefire. It's that I simply won't abide by some Zionist trying to change the subject and convince others that those rockets make it onto the list of the Top 200 things wrong with the conditions in the region right now. The intention behind the rockets is evil born of desperation. They cause some level of inconvenience. From time-to-time, they pose a danger. But 99.9% of the time, they are benign.

Therefore, my attention is squarely on the evil that isn't born of desperation, that is vicious and unrelenting, and that poses a danger 24/7 to Palestinians, and in the big picture, to Israelis, too. 100.0% of the time, those issues are malignant and far from benign. The rockets can be part of any solution, but they aren't front and center by a long shot.

The rockets are *not* benign. Remember, it was one of these rockets that crashed outside a hospital and was immidately assessed to have been a "US-supplied JDAM" and it was claimed the hospital was completely leveled and 400 people killed by it. So if Hamas themselves claim they are big dangerous things then that is what they are. And Hamas has been launching these by the thousands at Israel, for years. Were it not for the Iron Dome, there would probably be tens of thousands of Israeli casualties as a result. Just because the rockets are shot down before they can strike homes, supermarkets, schools, theaters, etc does not make them "benign." And shame on you for trying to downplay and gaslight about the rockets. Any ceasefire needs to include a cessation of rockets too.

That is a lie. The hospital was a fuel air bomb dropped by the Israelis. Why do you continue to repeat Israeli lies and propaganda. The hospital, UNRWA, Hamas rapes, IdF not targeting civilians, etc, etc. Israel does not want a ceasefire, does not want peace and certainly does not want to get the hostages back. The IDF and Israel just want to killing, rape and pillage Gaza.

[Anonymous]

French newspaper posted cartoon mocking starving Palestinians pictured as rats with the caption saying not before sunset! Mocking Ramadan.

French are always keeping it classy. They would never post a cartoon of Jews as rats in 2024.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240312-french-newspaper-cartoon-criticised-for-mocking-gazans-hunger-during-holy-month-of-ramadan/amp/

Given the amount of fundies in their country it’s truly playing with fire

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And for anyone that thinks what I posted is ridiculous, just ponder on the fact that there even are hostages alive able to be released. I am sure all those people thought for certain Hamas was going to take them to Gaza and kill them.

Oooh, how very noble to keep the hostages alive and only abusing and raping them a little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They don't actually want a ceasefire, they want all the "occupier colonizers" to leave or be killed. They fully support rockets still being fired at Israel.

People mention 10/7, but not the rockets that were being fired regularly before that. Will a ceasefire include no rocket fire? Or is it only Israel that must stand down?

It's almost as if the illegal immigrants to the Levant have been the peace-loving, freedom-loving good guys they have been selling us on all these years! Look guys, the only bad acts in the region in the past 100 years were these desperation Hail Mary rockets (really crude pipe bombs with limited to no aerial capacity) from the natives! The immigrants have been minding their own business, definitely not working through a 100+ year plan to dispossess others of their land.

One vote for not including rockets in ceasefire.

No, actually. It's a vote for including them in a ceasefire. It's that I simply won't abide by some Zionist trying to change the subject and convince others that those rockets make it onto the list of the Top 200 things wrong with the conditions in the region right now. The intention behind the rockets is evil born of desperation. They cause some level of inconvenience. From time-to-time, they pose a danger. But 99.9% of the time, they are benign.

Therefore, my attention is squarely on the evil that isn't born of desperation, that is vicious and unrelenting, and that poses a danger 24/7 to Palestinians, and in the big picture, to Israelis, too. 100.0% of the time, those issues are malignant and far from benign. The rockets can be part of any solution, but they aren't front and center by a long shot.

The rockets are *not* benign. Remember, it was one of these rockets that crashed outside a hospital and was immidately assessed to have been a "US-supplied JDAM" and it was claimed the hospital was completely leveled and 400 people killed by it. So if Hamas themselves claim they are big dangerous things then that is what they are. And Hamas has been launching these by the thousands at Israel, for years. Were it not for the Iron Dome, there would probably be tens of thousands of Israeli casualties as a result. Just because the rockets are shot down before they can strike homes, supermarkets, schools, theaters, etc does not make them "benign." And shame on you for trying to downplay and gaslight about the rockets. Any ceasefire needs to include a cessation of rockets too.

+1. How dare you say they are benign - have you ever lived somewhere where rockets are being fired? My family lived briefly in Israel during a Hamas rocket campaign and my child still has some PTSD sequelae from it. You are writing safely from your home in Chevy Chase - imagine you are walking down Connecticut Ave going to the CVS and loud sirens go off - you scramble to find the nearest bomb shelter with other panicked people. While in there, you can hear very loud concussions that sound close and you hope it’s the Iron Dome hitting the rockets in the air but can’t tell. The concussions are so strong that you feel the vibration inside your chest, the same as the impact of a bomb hitting something on the ground would feel. You regret not carrying food and water on your trip to the CVS and maybe a bag or something for your small child, who is very quiet and just shaking but not talking, to go to the bathroom in. This will happen to you several more times in the next few days, mostly at night, and you will be startled awake in your Chevy Chase bed by sirens and have 90 seconds to round up your family and get to a shelter. Your child starts flinching at any loud noise and is asking a lot of anxious questions. You have to lie with him for hours to get him to go to sleep at night. You hear that a house in Rockville was destroyed when a rocket got through the Iron Dome. Could have just as easily been in Chevy Chase - in fact, it flew over Chevy Chase to get there. In the daytime, a rocket lands near your child’s school, and the school decides to shut down for the next few days at least.

Hamas has fired 3000 rockets in the past two days. Each Iron Dome action against one rocket costs $500k so not every rocket is shot down, and also some are missed. They are allowed to fall on farms in upper Montgomery County since they’re less likely to hit people there, and the farm where your child planted a tree and went fruit picking on a school field trip is destroyed. A child is killed inside a bomb shelter when a rocket hits the door at a weird angle. Your bomb shelter starts feeling less safe.

The US (since you’re in the US in this story) launches a directed attack to try to take out some of the missile launchers to make it stop. One of the missile launchers is mounted on top of an apartment building and they call every home in that building to warn them beforehand. Guess what the international headlines are the next morning? “US bombs Gaza.” Only buried in the story below, a couple of paragraphs down, is it noted that Hamas has fired 3000 rockets into the US, and the timing (Hamas first) is not even mentioned. When a ceasefire a few days later is broken by Gaza first and then Israel responds, some headlines just generally mention more fighting in the region, and others only reference Israeli aggression. The order of events is not mentioned at all anywhere in the articles. You are frustrated because your experience on the ground is so different from what’s in the media.

These are all our real lived experiences while we were there. I am not a fan of Netanyahu and find the settlements in the West Bank abhorrent. However, not even considering October 7th, it’s not ok to stand by and allow your neighbor to shoot rockets at you, and no one should expect this.