Is internship a must for CS major?

[Anonymous]

One of my DS will be attending college in the fall with the intention to major in CS at UVA. I've always thought that an internship is "highly recommended" for a CS major after the 2nd or 3rd year; however, my recently graduated niece and nephews just disproved my way of thinking.

My niece recently graduated with a CS major from GMU. She graduated in three years through a combination of credits from AP courses in HS and summer classes at GMU and NVCC. Instead of summer internships, she took summer classes at GMU and NVCC. She got several job offers and accepted an offer from Google. Nephew #1 recently graduated with a CS degree from UVA school of engineering. He did the same thing as his cousin. He also got several job offers and accepted an offer from Microsoft. Nephew #2 recently graduated from VTech with the same profile as nephew #1, and he accepted an offer from Oracle.

All three graduated in three years and didn't do any internships while in college and yet they all got high paying offers from employers. That got me thinking, why even bothers with internships when you can graduate early and make more money that way?

Am I wrong on this?

[Anonymous]

My DD is earning $45/hr + a 15K sign on bonus for her sophomore summer internship (not at a FAANG)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is earning $45/hr + a 15K sign on bonus for her sophomore summer internship (not at a FAANG)

CS? That's impressive. Mind sharing which company (or industry)?

[Anonymous]

$15000 sign-on bonus? For an intern?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is earning $45/hr + a 15K sign on bonus for her sophomore summer internship (not at a FAANG)

May I ask which school she goes to? Did she get that internship thru her college fair? And is it an internship before or after her sophomore year? Thank you

[Anonymous]

Huh. My UVA rising second-year kid is interning and getting some certs. Several friends are taking classes at NVCC. They’re not working at all, just like OP described. Interesting. I think you need to be careful with the summer classes and be sure that UVA will actually accept them for transfer credit in your major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of my DS will be attending college in the fall with the intention to major in CS at UVA. I've always thought that an internship is "highly recommended" for a CS major after the 2nd or 3rd year; however, my recently graduated niece and nephews just disproved my way of thinking.

My niece recently graduated with a CS major from GMU. She graduated in three years through a combination of credits from AP courses in HS and summer classes at GMU and NVCC. Instead of summer internships, she took summer classes at GMU and NVCC. She got several job offers and accepted an offer from Google. Nephew #1 recently graduated with a CS degree from UVA school of engineering. He did the same thing as his cousin. He also got several job offers and accepted an offer from Microsoft. Nephew #2 recently graduated from VTech with the same profile as nephew #1, and he accepted an offer from Oracle.

All three graduated in three years and didn't do any internships while in college and yet they all got high paying offers from employers. That got me thinking, why even bothers with internships when you can graduate early and make more money that way?

Am I wrong on this?

Can I ask what's your niece's starting salary? My niece is also interested in studying CS, and GMU is the most likely one she will be attending. She will be applying for college in a couple years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is earning $45/hr + a 15K sign on bonus for her sophomore summer internship (not at a FAANG)

CS? That's impressive. Mind sharing which company (or industry)?

CS...yes. Not sure how she connected with the company She did lots of work looking for an internship both through her school and on her own. It is a smaller co few would be familiar with. She goes to a well rated CS school but not the very top of this list.

[Anonymous]

Most employers look for some kind of experience. For CS, there are many ways to get it though. The kids I look for when hiring are kids that have a passion for building. If they do, then they're probably doing open source and side projects and have public github repos.

[Anonymous]

Demand for CS employees may be great enough that a summer internship isn't as important. There are also such things as full time internships after college graduation, e.g. for a year or whatever.

COVID response royally messed up internships over the last couple of years, to put it politely. This may have increased demand for new graduates (smaller pipeline) and is a good reason why a new grad may not have any summer internships on their resume for CS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of my DS will be attending college in the fall with the intention to major in CS at UVA. I've always thought that an internship is "highly recommended" for a CS major after the 2nd or 3rd year; however, my recently graduated niece and nephews just disproved my way of thinking.

My niece recently graduated with a CS major from GMU. She graduated in three years through a combination of credits from AP courses in HS and summer classes at GMU and NVCC. Instead of summer internships, she took summer classes at GMU and NVCC. She got several job offers and accepted an offer from Google. Nephew #1 recently graduated with a CS degree from UVA school of engineering. He did the same thing as his cousin. He also got several job offers and accepted an offer from Microsoft. Nephew #2 recently graduated from VTech with the same profile as nephew #1, and he accepted an offer from Oracle.

All three graduated in three years and didn't do any internships while in college and yet they all got high paying offers from employers. That got me thinking, why even bothers with internships when you can graduate early and make more money that way?

Am I wrong on this?

Can I ask what's your niece's starting salary? My niece is also interested in studying CS, and GMU is the most likely one she will be attending. She will be applying for college in a couple years.

This is OP. My niece's starting salary at Google is 150K, 135K for Microsoft and 150K for Oracle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of my DS will be attending college in the fall with the intention to major in CS at UVA. I've always thought that an internship is "highly recommended" for a CS major after the 2nd or 3rd year; however, my recently graduated niece and nephews just disproved my way of thinking.

My niece recently graduated with a CS major from GMU. She graduated in three years through a combination of credits from AP courses in HS and summer classes at GMU and NVCC. Instead of summer internships, she took summer classes at GMU and NVCC. She got several job offers and accepted an offer from Google. Nephew #1 recently graduated with a CS degree from UVA school of engineering. He did the same thing as his cousin. He also got several job offers and accepted an offer from Microsoft. Nephew #2 recently graduated from VTech with the same profile as nephew #1, and he accepted an offer from Oracle.

All three graduated in three years and didn't do any internships while in college and yet they all got high paying offers from employers. That got me thinking, why even bothers with internships when you can graduate early and make more money that way?

Am I wrong on this?

Can I ask what's your niece's starting salary? My niece is also interested in studying CS, and GMU is the most likely one she will be attending. She will be applying for college in a couple years.

This is OP. My niece's starting salary at Google is 150K, 135K for Microsoft and 150K for Oracle.

Wow!! Did she have a high GPA to get the Google job? My DD will be doing CS this fall. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of my DS will be attending college in the fall with the intention to major in CS at UVA. I've always thought that an internship is "highly recommended" for a CS major after the 2nd or 3rd year; however, my recently graduated niece and nephews just disproved my way of thinking.

My niece recently graduated with a CS major from GMU. She graduated in three years through a combination of credits from AP courses in HS and summer classes at GMU and NVCC. Instead of summer internships, she took summer classes at GMU and NVCC. She got several job offers and accepted an offer from Google. Nephew #1 recently graduated with a CS degree from UVA school of engineering. He did the same thing as his cousin. He also got several job offers and accepted an offer from Microsoft. Nephew #2 recently graduated from VTech with the same profile as nephew #1, and he accepted an offer from Oracle.

All three graduated in three years and didn't do any internships while in college and yet they all got high paying offers from employers. That got me thinking, why even bothers with internships when you can graduate early and make more money that way?

Am I wrong on this?

Can I ask what's your niece's starting salary? My niece is also interested in studying CS, and GMU is the most likely one she will be attending. She will be applying for college in a couple years.

This is OP. My niece's starting salary at Google is 150K, 135K for Microsoft and 150K for Oracle.

lol bs

[Anonymous]

Tech person here who does hiring. I prefer to see internships as you learn how to operate in a work environment and we don't have to teach you that on the job. Also, doing some CS-related classes at the local community college isn't ideal -- you're in big-name university for their instruction after all.

But.... the market is hot right now, so any path will not mean a person ends up jobless in this field.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of my DS will be attending college in the fall with the intention to major in CS at UVA. I've always thought that an internship is "highly recommended" for a CS major after the 2nd or 3rd year; however, my recently graduated niece and nephews just disproved my way of thinking.

My niece recently graduated with a CS major from GMU. She graduated in three years through a combination of credits from AP courses in HS and summer classes at GMU and NVCC. Instead of summer internships, she took summer classes at GMU and NVCC. She got several job offers and accepted an offer from Google. Nephew #1 recently graduated with a CS degree from UVA school of engineering. He did the same thing as his cousin. He also got several job offers and accepted an offer from Microsoft. Nephew #2 recently graduated from VTech with the same profile as nephew #1, and he accepted an offer from Oracle.

All three graduated in three years and didn't do any internships while in college and yet they all got high paying offers from employers. That got me thinking, why even bothers with internships when you can graduate early and make more money that way?

Am I wrong on this?

Can I ask what's your niece's starting salary? My niece is also interested in studying CS, and GMU is the most likely one she will be attending. She will be applying for college in a couple years.

This is OP. My niece's starting salary at Google is 150K, 135K for Microsoft and 150K for Oracle.

lol bs

DP. PP probably meant total comp. Not unreasonable at all.