Can someone explain the teacher leave policy?

[Anonymous]

We get 13 sick days a year when we start and 5 of those can be used as personal leave.

How many carry over to following years if we don't use them? Is there any use or lose? Is there a cap on how many days you can have banked over the years?

[Anonymous]

All leave carries over to the following year, but rolls over as sick leave (in the event you do not use some or all of the personal leave days).

[Anonymous]

And no, there is no limit to the number of days you can accumulate. There is no cash value for teachers if you have leave remaining when you leave FCPS; however, if you retire with leave it is added to your years/months of service upon retirement.

[Anonymous]

Here is the regulation. Additionally, if you take a job in another school system, that system may give you credit for a certain amount of leave that you had in FCPS there. FCPS allows some, it must be in the regulation, but I cannot remember how much. I think 60 days but you could check the reg for how FCPS applies that for incoming teachers as an example.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/C5LMJJ5B79D3/$file/R4819.pdf

[Anonymous]

+1 to the second post.

The one thing I’ll add is for some the leave essentially is use it lose, Eva use depending on when you were hired you forfeit with no compensation all accrued leave when you leave the district. Because elf when I was hired, my unused leave will get added as additional service time when I retire. Newer hires don’t have that benefit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 to the second post.

The one thing I’ll add is for some the leave essentially is use it lose, Eva use depending on when you were hired you forfeit with no compensation all accrued leave when you leave the district. Because elf when I was hired, my unused leave will get added as additional service time when I retire. Newer hires don’t have that benefit.

Sorry about the butchered post. Touchy iPad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And no, there is no limit to the number of days you can accumulate. There is no cash value for teachers if you have leave remaining when you leave FCPS; however, if you retire with leave it is added to your years/months of service upon retirement.[/quote]

They must have changed this back, which is good. That’s what will happen with my leave, but when my DW was hired the policy was she would forfeit all unused leave. If they reversed that, that’s great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And no, there is no limit to the number of days you can accumulate. There is no cash value for teachers if you have leave remaining when you leave FCPS; however, if you retire with leave it is added to your years/months of service upon retirement.

Only if you are in Legacy plan. For most teachers now, leave is lost once you leave. IMO, they should reinstate paying for leave not used at retirement. You will absolutely have less absences if there is an incentive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no, there is no limit to the number of days you can accumulate. There is no cash value for teachers if you have leave remaining when you leave FCPS; however, if you retire with leave it is added to your years/months of service upon retirement.

Only if you are in Legacy plan. For most teachers now, leave is lost once you leave. IMO, they should reinstate paying for leave not used at retirement. You will absolutely have less absences if there is an incentive.

First it’s fewer absences, not less. Second, people take leave when they need to take leave. They’re not thinking of retirement. I am in the Legacy plan and that has never entered my mind or impacted my decision to take leave or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no, there is no limit to the number of days you can accumulate. There is no cash value for teachers if you have leave remaining when you leave FCPS; however, if you retire with leave it is added to your years/months of service upon retirement.

Only if you are in Legacy plan. For most teachers now, leave is lost once you leave. IMO, they should reinstate paying for leave not used at retirement. You will absolutely have less absences if there is an incentive.

DP
That’s what I thought too, but if you read the policy posted above it seems all employees vested in ERFC receive service credit. I fall under the Legacy Plan, but my DW does not. We thought the benefit dropped for her. We’ll have to get clarification on that.

I’ve been with the county for 29 years and in that time employees have never been compensated for unused leave other than with the service credit. Administrators did get monetary compensation for their unused annual leave, but I don’t see that addressed in the linked policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no, there is no limit to the number of days you can accumulate. There is no cash value for teachers if you have leave remaining when you leave FCPS; however, if you retire with leave it is added to your years/months of service upon retirement.

Only if you are in Legacy plan. For most teachers now, leave is lost once you leave. IMO, they should reinstate paying for leave not used at retirement. You will absolutely have less absences if there is an incentive.

First it’s fewer absences, not less. Second, people take leave when they need to take leave. They’re not thinking of retirement. I am in the Legacy plan and that has never entered my mind or impacted my decision to take leave or not.

DP
I do think newer teachers use up their leave at a greater rate with the mindset of, “Why shouldn’t I? There’s no reason to save it”. I hear it quite often. Someone said it at a STAC meeting I attended a few years ago. I can’t say I blame them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All leave carries over to the following year, but rolls over as sick leave (in the event you do not use some or all of the personal leave days).

It’s ALL designated as SICK LEAVE. There are three types of SICK LEAVE:
-SELF for when you are sick
-FAMILY for when a family member is sick
-PERSONAL for when you have a non-medical reason to be out

All of your unused sick leave rolls over to the next year. In any given year, no matter how much sick leave you have, only 5 days can be used as SICK LEAVE—PERSONAL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All leave carries over to the following year, but rolls over as sick leave (in the event you do not use some or all of the personal leave days).

It’s ALL designated as SICK LEAVE. There are three types of SICK LEAVE:
-SELF for when you are sick
-FAMILY for when a family member is sick
-PERSONAL for when you have a non-medical reason to be out

All of your unused sick leave rolls over to the next year. In any given year, no matter how much sick leave you have, only 5 days can be used as SICK LEAVE—PERSONAL.

The Sick Personal Leave is not monitored. I put in my notice to leave FCPS back in Dec. I’ve used approximately 7-8 Sick Personal Days for various things - I can’t take the 500 hrs with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All leave carries over to the following year, but rolls over as sick leave (in the event you do not use some or all of the personal leave days).

It’s ALL designated as SICK LEAVE. There are three types of SICK LEAVE:
-SELF for when you are sick
-FAMILY for when a family member is sick
-PERSONAL for when you have a non-medical reason to be out

All of your unused sick leave rolls over to the next year. In any given year, no matter how much sick leave you have, only 5 days can be used as SICK LEAVE—PERSONAL.

Same thing, different way of saying it. Whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All leave carries over to the following year, but rolls over as sick leave (in the event you do not use some or all of the personal leave days).

It’s ALL designated as SICK LEAVE. There are three types of SICK LEAVE:
-SELF for when you are sick
-FAMILY for when a family member is sick
-PERSONAL for when you have a non-medical reason to be out

All of your unused sick leave rolls over to the next year. In any given year, no matter how much sick leave you have, only 5 days can be used as SICK LEAVE—PERSONAL.

The Sick Personal Leave is not monitored. I put in my notice to leave FCPS back in Dec. I’ve used approximately 7-8 Sick Personal Days for various things - I can’t take the 500 hrs with me.

It is definitely monitored at my school. Perhaps your principal doesn’t care because you’re leaving.