Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm no Jen fan, but I am someone who has survived an abusive marriage. To see many of my posts, you'd think I was "Lying" too.....the reality is that the better I made my ex look, the worse I suffered. I also have friends who very much had the rug pulled out from under their feet by spouses who were living basically a double life. Their posts on social were not lies, they just had no idea they were living a lie, because their partner hid it.

Again........I think that Jen isnt as pretty as she thinks she is, and is a thirsty, self important blowhard....but I do think that its not always "WHAT A LIAR" when a seemingly happy family devolves and there are allegations of abuse. Believe me, I scoured through my OWN social media posts thinking "was I a liar?".....but no, I was showing what I hoped I had, in hopes that he wouldnt hit me or scream at me that night. I was doing my best, with what I had.

I agree with you here, and I'm so sorry you suffered abuse. NO ONE deserves that. I really understand what you are talking about as one of my brothers actually was emotionally and verbally abused by his former wife, (he has been diagnosed with PTSD from her actions). They were married for over 10 years, and virtually no one believes that she was/is actually that abusive and manipulative, even though she got pregnant from the (known) afair she had - by a man who was also married at the time with very young kids.

I do agree wholeheartedly that abuse and such is never ok. My issue and I think perhaps one of the poster’s views was that Jen seemingly admitted on the podcast that she knew things were going down badly and yet her posts about Brandon were just full of hyperbole of how great everyone is. Perhaps she was in denial (and understandably so) but to keep up with the picture perfect life is what is unbecoming in my view. She’s a “celebrity” who espoused the perfect family, the grit, the tough times, the humanity of everything she does….but, not really so much.

I listened to the podcast yesterday. I don't know Jamie and Kristen that well, but none of them deserved to be cheated on, abused, or treated poorly. Could they have taken more accountability for some things? Possibly - but I don't know all their stories. I am not really much of a Jen fan these days, but I think that podcast can serve other women (and men) who are in similar situations - especially if they grew up in the same or similar culture. In the very least, they may now realize they are not alone, and that there could be a path forward out of an abusive and/or manipulative marriage.

[Anonymous]

But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

Neither Jamie nor Kristen made an online brand out of The Happiest Marriage. Jen’s story and responsibility seems different than the other two. I have no idea what the behind the scenes details with Brandon were but I do know she made a whole brand out of a what now appears to be a fiction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but did Jen just admit that the way she portrayed her marriage and family for years was a lie? That’s the real elephant in the room - you gave us a totally false picture of your marriage for years and you still will not take responsibility for that. You act like this image was foisted on you.

Exactly- even the last pic she posted on Facebook in June 30, less than a month from the announcement of their divorce, she was gushing all over Brandon and their journey together and how great he is and how they still choose each other. So, Jenn, you knew then it was crumbling, but lied to continue to bolster your leverage your brand? How genuine of you.

Check out all the comments from her fans. They’re so sappy and syrupy sweet. And yet, she knew? She doesn’t care, she just keeps cashing in. She has no conscience.

Eh they’re just corn eaters - Tray Pruitt

Jen calls them The Minions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

Neither Jamie nor Kristen made an online brand out of The Happiest Marriage. Jen’s story and responsibility seems different than the other two. I have no idea what the behind the scenes details with Brandon were but I do know she made a whole brand out of a what now appears to be a fiction.

I think Brandon kept his discontent/issues hidden. Though along with that JH was busy and likely didn't have time to dig deep into Brandon's moods and issues. He has accepted responsibility for his part if you've watched his posts (many now deleted). He thanked his new GF for saving him from himself. He seems to be remorseful in that he wants everyone to leave JH alone, and of course his new GF alone too.

[Anonymous]

Jen is now pretty much a 24-7 promo code carnival barker for Able. They must see her as someone who can really move the numbers in that coverrd Suburban Wine Mom Demo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

You are probably only referring to physical abuse, but infidelity is abuse—the deception, manipulation, gaslighting, betrayal, humiliation. Many experience PTSD for years afterwards.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

You are probably only referring to physical abuse, but infidelity is abuse—the deception, manipulation, gaslighting, betrayal, humiliation. Many experience PTSD for years afterwards.

Abuse like screaming at your daughter during a conference call so everyone could hear? Or blasting their dirty laundry to their small town? Of saying you don’t intend to get them medical and dental appointments? Or throwing a board game against a wall when you lose? Like that?

No one is clean here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

You are probably only referring to physical abuse, but infidelity is abuse—the deception, manipulation, gaslighting, betrayal, humiliation. Many experience PTSD for years afterwards.

Abuse like screaming at your daughter during a conference call so everyone could hear? Or blasting their dirty laundry to their small town? Of saying you don’t intend to get them medical and dental appointments? Or throwing a board game against a wall when you lose? Like that?

No one is clean here.

Yeah. I have parenting and marriage moments when I was not at my best. I have regrets, moments where I wish I could go back and get a redo. That's life. You apologize (I think apologizing to your kids is one of the most powerful things you can do) and you try and do better. You learn your triggers and you investigate if medication might be in order, especially if it's hormonal.

But I don't humble brag them on SM - ?

The whole "I'm such a mess" thing started as, you don't have to be perfect. That was good.

But it quickly morphed into, you're such a beautiful mess you don't even have to give a crap! It's so so adorable to suck ass at being a mom! So free and full of moxie! If it makes a funny facebook post, you're an inspiration to moms everywhere!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

You are probably only referring to physical abuse, but infidelity is abuse—the deception, manipulation, gaslighting, betrayal, humiliation. Many experience PTSD for years afterwards.

Abuse like screaming at your daughter during a conference call so everyone could hear? Or blasting their dirty laundry to their small town? Of saying you don’t intend to get them medical and dental appointments? Or throwing a board game against a wall when you lose? Like that?

No one is clean here.

That’s oddly specific.

[Anonymous]

There’s a big difference between a “normal” person not wanting to share their personal junk on social media vs an “influencer” monetizing a faux life.

If you’ve followed Jen for a significant amount of time, you can clearly see that she’s an example of the latter.

Before today:
“If you do what I do and think what I think, you too can have an AMAZING, FUN, WONDERFUL, JOY-FILLED life like mine! Find a good church like mine! Marry an amazing husband like mine! You go girl!”

Today: “ACTUALLY…. my church filled me with so much shame, and my husband was a lying addict. My life was horrible and sad, but I was too ashamed to share that with you all. BUT NOW, my life is AMAZING, FUN, WONDERFUL, JOY-FILLED! Leave your church like I did! Divorce your husband like I did! Order yourself some of the same clothes I wear - with this online code! You go girl!”

NO ONE should believe a word this woman says.

[Anonymous]

Regarding Big Sis Jen and church… she and Brandon literally built their own, perfect little church kingdom, sort of in their own image…for her to moan in and on about spiritual abuse falls on death ears. And being cancelled by a synonym Christian book chain doesn’t count.

If ANC doesn’t do it for her I doubt any church can.

The real “church” for Jen is herself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big difference between a “normal” person not wanting to share their personal junk on social media vs an “influencer” monetizing a faux life.

If you’ve followed Jen for a significant amount of time, you can clearly see that she’s an example of the latter.

Before today:
“If you do what I do and think what I think, you too can have an AMAZING, FUN, WONDERFUL, JOY-FILLED life like mine! Find a good church like mine! Marry an amazing husband like mine! You go girl!”

Today: “ACTUALLY…. my church filled me with so much shame, and my husband was a lying addict. My life was horrible and sad, but I was too ashamed to share that with you all. BUT NOW, my life is AMAZING, FUN, WONDERFUL, JOY-FILLED! Leave your church like I did! Divorce your husband like I did! Order yourself some of the same clothes I wear - with this online code! You go girl!”

NO ONE should believe a word this woman says.

Exactly this. It’s such a gross gross and fake posture. So
Empty and grasping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big difference between a “normal” person not wanting to share their personal junk on social media vs an “influencer” monetizing a faux life.

If you’ve followed Jen for a significant amount of time, you can clearly see that she’s an example of the latter.

Before today:
“If you do what I do and think what I think, you too can have an AMAZING, FUN, WONDERFUL, JOY-FILLED life like mine! Find a good church like mine! Marry an amazing husband like mine! You go girl!”

Today: “ACTUALLY…. my church filled me with so much shame, and my husband was a lying addict. My life was horrible and sad, but I was too ashamed to share that with you all. BUT NOW, my life is AMAZING, FUN, WONDERFUL, JOY-FILLED! Leave your church like I did! Divorce your husband like I did! Order yourself some of the same clothes I wear - with this online code! You go girl!”

NO ONE should believe a word this woman says.

I second this! All of it.

Exactly this. It’s such a gross gross and fake posture. So
Empty and grasping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But wait, did any of them talk about being abused? Jamie talked about being serially cheated on. I don’t remember any of them talking about abuse. Jen herself only testified to profound disconnection in her marriage even as she was posting about how happy they were.

You are probably only referring to physical abuse, but infidelity is abuse—the deception, manipulation, gaslighting, betrayal, humiliation. Many experience PTSD for years afterwards.

Abuse like screaming at your daughter during a conference call so everyone could hear? Or blasting their dirty laundry to their small town? Of saying you don’t intend to get them medical and dental appointments? Or throwing a board game against a wall when you lose? Like that?

No one is clean here.

That’s oddly specific.

This are some of the things he that Jenn did, and actually posted about it. Specific yes. Odd, yes and even more sad. But, she put it out there. I thinks she’s imbalanced chemically. Girl is effed up.

[Anonymous]

So… is that her new fella? I’m a little surprised!