The federal government for one. This is only one quickly Googleable source, but many government rules and regulations stipulate the same: https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/legsregs/directives/orders/cm/appc.htm#:~:text=(c)%20A%20person%20once%20entitled,title%20throughout%20his%2Fher%20lifetime.
This also holds for military titles. |
Wow, an appendix to a Federal Highway Administration Highway Correspondence Manual. And it doesn't even mention the title President! |
https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states |
"Formally Addressing the Former President When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.” This holds for introductions, as well: A current state governor is introduced as “Governor Tom Smith,” while you’d introduce an ex-governor as “former Governor Jim Bell.” |
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Jeffrey Clark’s lawyers did not have any success arguing that his case should be in federal court because he was just doing his job
“…according to CNN, a “visibly frustrated and annoyed” U.S. District Judge Steve Jones grilled Clark’s attorneys to such an extent on Monday that one of Trump’s attorneys, who was in the courtroom, muttered, “This is not good.” Clark is accused, among other things, of writing a letter to Georgia election officials in the wake of the 2020 election that made bogus claims of irregularities. Jones questioned Clark’s attorney on why Clark included irregularity claims when his superiors at the Justice Department told him the claims were false. Similarly, former DOJ official Jody Hunt testified that Clark’s division didn’t even have the authority to investigate election fraud. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-co-defendant-jeffrey-clark-has-a-rough-day-in-court |
+1 Everyone above him at DOJ at the time said as much, that he was the environmental guy and they would call him if there was an oil spill. This was all in the January 6 committee testimony. |
| The guy Trump wanted to be the Attorney General of the United States of America didn’t appear in federal court today, and had to be told by the judge that he had to file a waiver of appearance. |
It’s okay he is a republican. SCOTUS gives republicans a get out of jail free card. |
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It doesn’t work that way, and Clark knew it didn’t work that way. If the President tells a Justice Department attorney to take a political action that is (a) outside his jurisdiction and authority and (b) illegal for anyone in DOJ or other government agency to do, it is the DOJ lawyer’s responsibility to explain to the President why the he and DOJ can’t do that. That’s what everyone above Clark did, but Trump kept going down the list until he found the amoral idiot who would do it. |