Classrooms for kids <12 will close for 10 days w/ any positives; will there be virtual instruction?

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Anonymous wrote:God I'm so depressed by this.

My kid and I literally cannot afford another year of distance learning, or just in-and-out of school. I can't do it financially. My office will start making me go in come September and there's no way I can stay home for 10 days repeatedly throughout the school year. There won't be any "learning camps" for exposed kids -- we are all just going to have to be home. I'll lose my job. I don't know what to do.

Yeah, I don’t know how they think working parents of younger kids will handle such frequent disruptions. I’m assuming there will be lots of kids left alone at home or “quarantining” with their grandparents.

And yes, kids themselves don’t deserve another disrupted school year.

+1

If I had a 3 or 4 year old I would probably pay for daycare for another two years to avoid this nonsense. There are already complaints about a worker shortage and this will lead more people to quit or lose their jobs (and let’s be clear by ‘people’ I mean ‘women’.). If this is truly the policy DC has to pass some paid leave and job protection for parents specifically in this situation.

Thank you, that's a good suggestion. I'm a single parent with no relatives in the area. There's no ex in the picture. If I can't hire someone to watch an exposed kid when these quarantines happen I'll be at a loss.

I think you guys are overstating this. I’m a parent at Murch (opened 4 full days a week for anyone who wanted a spot). There were 2 classes quarantined from April until June. TWO.

I don’t think it is going to be as big of a problem as the hysteria here acts like it will be.

I would like to think this, too, but Janney didn’t have ANY classes quarantined in the spring and now it happened during summer school. Is because of delta? Or travel? Or both? I don’t know. But they will need to find a more reasonable way of handling those positives or this will be a nightmare im the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney's action in sending an entire cohort home is inconsistent with CDC guidelines for what type of "close contact" requires quarantine:

Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
- both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
- other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact

yes, it's inconsistent with CDC guidelines but it's consistent with the OSSE guidelines!
That's the whole point of this thread. The OSSE guidelines (as followed by Janney and previously this summer by Banneker) are what led to the quarantine.

The question remains: will the schools provide any instruction when these happens repeatedly during the school year?

The question remains: when is OSSE going to follow the CDC so we quit harming kids unnecessarily?

That is the million dollar question. It's what makes the Janney situation worrisome--it's proof that DCPS is following the policy now. It should be sobering to any of us with kids in DCPS. They're actually following this quarantine policy that is not really compatible with in-person school.

This teacher is equally worried; I get the impression DCPS thought this was all going away before august 30 and now are wildly unprepared for the inevitability of concurrent teaching

Bingo. I'm sure you are correct.
In early June it really seemed like this would be a complete non-issue for the fall. I know people who gave up private school spots then (deposits were due June 1).
And DCPS always seems to clue into a situation about 2 months after the rest of the world and then takes another month to begin to start thinking about addressing it.
So yeah, right around Oct 1 they'll start to think about needing a virtual option for kids who have been in back-to-back quarantines all fall.

+100

This explains the rigidity in their position. They aren’t prepared with a plan B and went all in with a Plan A assuming a vaccine would be available by now for everyone.

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I would like to think this, too, but Janney didn’t have ANY classes quarantined in the spring and now it happened during summer school. Is because of delta? Or travel? Or both? I don’t know. But they will need to find a more reasonable way of handling those positives or this will be a nightmare im the fall.

There was a first grade class that had to at the start of A3.

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I would like to think this, too, but Janney didn’t have ANY classes quarantined in the spring and now it happened during summer school. Is because of delta? Or travel? Or both? I don’t know. But they will need to find a more reasonable way of handling those positives or this will be a nightmare im the fall.

There was a first grade class that had to at the start of A3.

Interesting. The former principal told me at the start of term 4 they hadn’t had any quarantines since opening, but maybe I misunderstood.

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Fairfax County Public Schools sent out an email today that stated the below:

Contract Tracing in the Event of a Positive Case

The CDC has issued a revised definition of close contact to include an exemption for K-12 students. When students are wearing masks and layered prevention strategies are in place, students are not considered close contacts. Therefore, they will not miss in-person instruction or activities for quarantine after an exposure.


So they are not requiring quarantine for students who are masked, regardless of the vaccination status of the students and are following CDC guidelines in this recommendation.

So Fairfax County kids will not have their schooling interrupted. Maybe DC will get with the program too. I'm not holding my breath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County Public Schools sent out an email today that stated the below:

Contract Tracing in the Event of a Positive Case

The CDC has issued a revised definition of close contact to include an exemption for K-12 students. When students are wearing masks and layered prevention strategies are in place, students are not considered close contacts. Therefore, they will not miss in-person instruction or activities for quarantine after an exposure.


So they are not requiring quarantine for students who are masked, regardless of the vaccination status of the students and are following CDC guidelines in this recommendation.

So Fairfax County kids will not have their schooling interrupted. Maybe DC will get with the program too. I'm not holding my breath.

*throwing things in anger that DC is so dumb*

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to wait until I see what the plan is when this happens for actual school before I panic about the fact that there's no plan for remote summer school. Remote summer school, after the last year and a half, would really seem more like a punishment than anything else.

You are missing the point. Summer school is following the OSSE quarantine policy which is also in place for the upcoming school year.

Well that's not good.

Best opt out of testing!

Maybe you are joking, but we absolutely are opting out.

100% also opting out because of this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to switch to the model tested in the UK, where close contacts are tested daily instead of quarantined. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57930214

Also, why are the cohorts mixing at Janney? Or was this an unvaccinated teacher/staff member who was present in both cohorts?

Mandatory vaccination, now.

It was a teacher

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:God I'm so depressed by this.

My kid and I literally cannot afford another year of distance learning, or just in-and-out of school. I can't do it financially. My office will start making me go in come September and there's no way I can stay home for 10 days repeatedly throughout the school year. There won't be any "learning camps" for exposed kids -- we are all just going to have to be home. I'll lose my job. I don't know what to do.

Yeah, I don’t know how they think working parents of younger kids will handle such frequent disruptions. I’m assuming there will be lots of kids left alone at home or “quarantining” with their grandparents.

And yes, kids themselves don’t deserve another disrupted school year.

+1

If I had a 3 or 4 year old I would probably pay for daycare for another two years to avoid this nonsense. There are already complaints about a worker shortage and this will lead more people to quit or lose their jobs (and let’s be clear by ‘people’ I mean ‘women’.). If this is truly the policy DC has to pass some paid leave and job protection for parents specifically in this situation.

Thank you, that's a good suggestion. I'm a single parent with no relatives in the area. There's no ex in the picture. If I can't hire someone to watch an exposed kid when these quarantines happen I'll be at a loss.

I think you guys are overstating this. I’m a parent at Murch (opened 4 full days a week for anyone who wanted a spot). There were 2 classes quarantined from April until June. TWO.

I don’t think it is going to be as big of a problem as the hysteria here acts like it will be.

What else was missing then? Oh yeah, delta, lifted mask and distancing mandates, vaccine breakthroughs, lunch at school, full day school, dropped/relaxed distancing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to switch to the model tested in the UK, where close contacts are tested daily instead of quarantined. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57930214

Also, why are the cohorts mixing at Janney? Or was this an unvaccinated teacher/staff member who was present in both cohorts?

Mandatory vaccination, now.

It was a teacher

Was the teacher vaccinated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God I'm so depressed by this.

My kid and I literally cannot afford another year of distance learning, or just in-and-out of school. I can't do it financially. My office will start making me go in come September and there's no way I can stay home for 10 days repeatedly throughout the school year. There won't be any "learning camps" for exposed kids -- we are all just going to have to be home. I'll lose my job. I don't know what to do.

Yeah, I don’t know how they think working parents of younger kids will handle such frequent disruptions. I’m assuming there will be lots of kids left alone at home or “quarantining” with their grandparents.

And yes, kids themselves don’t deserve another disrupted school year.

+1

If I had a 3 or 4 year old I would probably pay for daycare for another two years to avoid this nonsense. There are already complaints about a worker shortage and this will lead more people to quit or lose their jobs (and let’s be clear by ‘people’ I mean ‘women’.). If this is truly the policy DC has to pass some paid leave and job protection for parents specifically in this situation.

Thank you, that's a good suggestion. I'm a single parent with no relatives in the area. There's no ex in the picture. If I can't hire someone to watch an exposed kid when these quarantines happen I'll be at a loss.

I think you guys are overstating this. I’m a parent at Murch (opened 4 full days a week for anyone who wanted a spot). There were 2 classes quarantined from April until June. TWO.

I don’t think it is going to be as big of a problem as the hysteria here acts like it will be.

I would like to think this, too, but Janney didn’t have ANY classes quarantined in the spring and now it happened during summer school. Is because of delta? Or travel? Or both? I don’t know. But they will need to find a more reasonable way of handling those positives or this will be a nightmare im the fall.

I’m not sure if you are familiar with the population at Janney’s summer school but it is by and large students from outside ward 3, so yes, very very different from the ward 3 population. Notably, ward 3 has the highest vaccination rates and the kids at the summer school program are in wards with the lowest - in the 20s - vaccination rates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to switch to the model tested in the UK, where close contacts are tested daily instead of quarantined. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57930214

Also, why are the cohorts mixing at Janney? Or was this an unvaccinated teacher/staff member who was present in both cohorts?

Mandatory vaccination, now.

It was a teacher

No it wasn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I would like to think this, too, but Janney didn’t have ANY classes quarantined in the spring and now it happened during summer school. Is because of delta? Or travel? Or both? I don’t know. But they will need to find a more reasonable way of handling those positives or this will be a nightmare im the fall.

There was a first grade class that had to at the start of A3.

Interesting. The former principal told me at the start of term 4 they hadn’t had any quarantines since opening, but maybe I misunderstood.

Principal told me that too and official DCPS data shows this as the first Janney positive. My child was in first grade and he had a student in his class whose non-Janney-attending SIBLING tested positive, so he had to quarantine. But that isn’t a class positive. The class didn’t have to quarantine and it doesn’t count as a school positive

[Anonymous]

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I would like to think this, too, but Janney didn’t have ANY classes quarantined in the spring and now it happened during summer school. Is because of delta? Or travel? Or both? I don’t know. But they will need to find a more reasonable way of handling those positives or this will be a nightmare im the fall.

There was a first grade class that had to at the start of A3.

Interesting. The former principal told me at the start of term 4 they hadn’t had any quarantines since opening, but maybe I misunderstood.

Principal told me that too and official DCPS data shows this as the first Janney positive. My child was in first grade and he had a student in his class whose non-Janney-attending SIBLING tested positive, so he had to quarantine. But that isn’t a class positive. The class didn’t have to quarantine and it doesn’t count as a school positive

Feel free to ask former first grade parents. You are correct that it was never listed officially. Which makes me think about what might have happened at other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to switch to the model tested in the UK, where close contacts are tested daily instead of quarantined. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57930214

Also, why are the cohorts mixing at Janney? Or was this an unvaccinated teacher/staff member who was present in both cohorts?

Mandatory vaccination, now.

It was a teacher

Was the teacher vaccinated?

Don’t know. But actually, to be more precise, I heard it was an adult- not sure if teacher or staff