in your mind, is STA worth it for high school?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just the Casertano effect. Though for sure the former Yale laxer has a special place in his heart for lacrosse players. But it's also the new lacrosse Head Coach who is recruiting players from his club teams and it's the Head of School. Lots of old timer alums and current dads have bent his ear about rebuilding the helmet sports programs. It's a shame really as one more sports recruit means one fewer artist, singer or musician.


I don’t know about the hos, but yes, there’s now a next level/sta connection that overall is a negative in a lot of ways.
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Anonymous wrote:I will say that admissions under Tyler Casertano has tended to place to emphasize athletes more, rather than other talented kids, so there may be a shift going on.


Tyler has not been in the admissions office for a couple years. I find PP's comment ironic in light of the fact that he encouraged my spouse not to worry so much about sports for our son.


He has been promoted and now supervises Admissions.
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Anonymous wrote:I will say that admissions under Tyler Casertano has tended to place to emphasize athletes more, rather than other talented kids, so there may be a shift going on.


Tyler has not been in the admissions office for a couple years. I find PP's comment ironic in light of the fact that he encouraged my spouse not to worry so much about sports for our son.


He has been promoted and now supervises Admissions.


He supervises lots of stuff now though.
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Anonymous wrote:We put one kid through NCS and another through STA. If I had another daughter, I would have sent her to another all-girls high school in a second. If I had another boy, I would have demanded a co-ed school. It isn't specifically a problem with STA, but the kind of male bonding he learned at an all boys school, especially around sexism, troubled me. There are many nice kids at STA, but in my opinion all-male schools tend to be more toxic than serving a particular need.


NCS grad here. Totally agree. The sexism at STA is rampant.


NCS is very feminist, so the Overton window shifted. The two schools may be on a collision course. I hope the STA curriculum doesn't move to accommodate.
- STA mom


DP. I don’t understand what you mean. Can you please clarify? Are you hoping STA does not teach women’s rights and feminism or are you saying you would like them to?


STA does plenty to talk about consent, respect for women, etc. What I don't want them to do is change the books read, the musicals performed, etc. to adapt to a militant view of feminism. I am an old school feminist and am not scared of Broadway songs like "Dames."
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Anonymous wrote:We put one kid through NCS and another through STA. If I had another daughter, I would have sent her to another all-girls high school in a second. If I had another boy, I would have demanded a co-ed school. It isn't specifically a problem with STA, but the kind of male bonding he learned at an all boys school, especially around sexism, troubled me. There are many nice kids at STA, but in my opinion all-male schools tend to be more toxic than serving a particular need.


NCS grad here. Totally agree. The sexism at STA is rampant.


NCS is very feminist, so the Overton window shifted. The two schools may be on a collision course. I hope the STA curriculum doesn't move to accommodate.
- STA mom


DP. I don’t understand what you mean. Can you please clarify? Are you hoping STA does not teach women’s rights and feminism or are you saying you would like them to?


STA does plenty to talk about consent, respect for women, etc. What I don't want them to do is change the books read, the musicals performed, etc. to adapt to a militant view of feminism. I am an old school feminist and am not scared of Broadway songs like "Dames."


I don’t think that’s likely. I’m more worried about the overemphasis on lax.
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Anonymous wrote:We put one kid through NCS and another through STA. If I had another daughter, I would have sent her to another all-girls high school in a second. If I had another boy, I would have demanded a co-ed school. It isn't specifically a problem with STA, but the kind of male bonding he learned at an all boys school, especially around sexism, troubled me. There are many nice kids at STA, but in my opinion all-male schools tend to be more toxic than serving a particular need.


NCS grad here. Totally agree. The sexism at STA is rampant.


NCS is very feminist, so the Overton window shifted. The two schools may be on a collision course. I hope the STA curriculum doesn't move to accommodate.
- STA mom


DP. I don’t understand what you mean. Can you please clarify? Are you hoping STA does not teach women’s rights and feminism or are you saying you would like them to?


STA does plenty to talk about consent, respect for women, etc. What I don't want them to do is change the books read, the musicals performed, etc. to adapt to a militant view of feminism. I am an old school feminist and am not scared of Broadway songs like "Dames."


I don’t think that’s likely. I’m more worried about the overemphasis on lax.


???

I know the varsity lacrosse team well, Classes of 2021-2023. They are some of the nicest and most respectful boys I know.

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Anonymous wrote:We put one kid through NCS and another through STA. If I had another daughter, I would have sent her to another all-girls high school in a second. If I had another boy, I would have demanded a co-ed school. It isn't specifically a problem with STA, but the kind of male bonding he learned at an all boys school, especially around sexism, troubled me. There are many nice kids at STA, but in my opinion all-male schools tend to be more toxic than serving a particular need.


NCS grad here. Totally agree. The sexism at STA is rampant.


NCS is very feminist, so the Overton window shifted. The two schools may be on a collision course. I hope the STA curriculum doesn't move to accommodate.
- STA mom


DP. I don’t understand what you mean. Can you please clarify? Are you hoping STA does not teach women’s rights and feminism or are you saying you would like them to?


STA does plenty to talk about consent, respect for women, etc. What I don't want them to do is change the books read, the musicals performed, etc. to adapt to a militant view of feminism. I aman old school feminist and am not scared of Broadway songs like "Dames."


I don’t think that’s likely. I’m more worried about the overemphasis on lax.


That is NOT happening. The kids coming in further academics first and it’s not even close. The class of 2025 has always had some very good athletes but they will still plod along at best because the numbers are still low. Smarts first and sports a lucky aside.

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Anonymous wrote:We put one kid through NCS and another through STA. If I had another daughter, I would have sent her to another all-girls high school in a second. If I had another boy, I would have demanded a co-ed school. It isn't specifically a problem with STA, but the kind of male bonding he learned at an all boys school, especially around sexism, troubled me. There are many nice kids at STA, but in my opinion all-male schools tend to be more toxic than serving a particular need.


NCS grad here. Totally agree. The sexism at STA is rampant.


NCS is very feminist, so the Overton window shifted. The two schools may be on a collision course. I hope the STA curriculum doesn't move to accommodate.
- STA mom


DP. I don’t understand what you mean. Can you please clarify? Are you hoping STA does not teach women’s rights and feminism or are you saying you would like them to?


STA does plenty to talk about consent, respect for women, etc. What I don't want them to do is change the books read, the musicals performed, etc. to adapt to a militant view of feminism. I aman old school feminist and am not scared of Broadway songs like "Dames."


I don’t think that’s likely. I’m more worried about the overemphasis on lax.


That is NOT happening. The kids coming in further academics first and it’s not even close. The class of 2025 has always had some very good athletes but they will still plod along at best because the numbers are still low. Smarts first and sports a lucky aside.



I appreciate your perspective. We have felt the lax push lately with the next level pipeline and alumni lax/helmet focus. I’m hoping your take is more accurate!
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Parent of a non-lax STA kid and he doesn’t feel any of the helmet sport pressure. He runs and has great friends in XC and track. Very happy. He thinks the lax kids are nice but doesn’t think a lot about them, just like I am sure they don’t think about him. He is friends with kids though sports and through his classes.

This board is always skewed by parent perceptions which always feel off and way more generalized.

I actually think we should all leave it to the boys, who seem surprisingly level-headed and motivated for teenage boys. My son knows it is a lot of work but feels a sense of community and gratefulness to go to school in the shadow of the Cathedral. Maybe we will feel differently at the end, but so far he knows he is lucky to get the chance to go to school at STA.
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Incoming 9th grade class does not seem to be overly sporty at all. No lax players that I can tell. Lots of academics.
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Anonymous wrote:Incoming 9th grade class does not seem to be overly sporty at all. No lax players that I can tell. Lots of academics.


Not mutually exclusive. The college placement of the Class of 2021 lacrosse team members announced during senior day was as good as it gets academically.
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Anonymous wrote:Incoming 9th grade class does not seem to be overly sporty at all. No lax players that I can tell. Lots of academics.


Huh? A few of them have already been told they will likely start varsity for the next 4 years. One of them is the best player on a great travel team (not Next Level). Beyond that, they are the only lower school class to beat Mater DEI in hoops (you should have seen Coach Green) in years and their best player was playing up a year and winning the MVP with the older class. If they had all played together, they would have been able to beat anyone. There are kids whose parents played professional sports in the class. When they played football with the class ahead of them, the 25s started over the 24s at every spot that matters. I think you are confusing classes.
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Sure, not mutually exclusive of course but the incoming class does not appear to be athlete heavy at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Sure, not mutually exclusive of course but the incoming class does not appear to be athlete heavy at all.


Or maybe they are.
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Anonymous wrote:Sure, not mutually exclusive of course but the incoming class does not appear to be athlete heavy at all.


Or maybe they are.


You mean incoming to include new-to-the school in 9th grade? That's when quite a few athletic kids arrive. If you are right that may mark a pivot away from the soft recruiting that they have been doing the last few years and maybe this harkens a return to the emphasis on academic scores rather than scoreboard scores.
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