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And that includes pay for the travel. No one is going to pay for someone else's kid to travel all over creation to play a youth sports. And there are enough paying customers to fill all these teams anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The clubs want kids that can pay. That is what everyone expects from the clubs and that is what everyone gets from the clubs. So what?


Players that can't afford the fees and travel can find a town team in a cheaper league and play there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.


agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tell us, based on your observations, when should the best 36 players per age group be picked and consolidated and by whom. Who is the expert who is going to find, evaluate and pick the best in a population of 2.5 million people in NOVA.

Also, what exactly is the point to consolidate the best 36 while throwing away the other 100. You trust the system to be free of politics and fair. You believe all kids will stay the same?

Are you will to throw away talent song your kid can beat Real SoCal?



I posted the original. Why is narrowing the elite clubs to two “throwing the other kids away?” They would still play on non ECNL teams and have the chance to compete for ECNL positions on those teams. By the way, the next tier would be much better in that scenario and it would be much healthier for all involved. And what’s wrong with fielding local teams that can compete nationally? That’s how I’d define elite, not the watered down s show we have today.


Competing nationally for youth soccer and other youth sports is stupid and is for one thing only..to monetize youth sports. Hardly ANY of these so called national superstars in these country club, fancy, "national leagues" will be pro or will ever get anyone to spend a dime to watch them play.

This is about marketing a product to affluent families, not about soccer.


+100
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.


agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.


Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.


agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.


Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.


Aren't military schools offering essentially a free ride anyway with or without soccer?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.


agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.


Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.


Aren't military schools offering essentially a free ride anyway with or without soccer?


Ummmmmmm. Negative ghost rider.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.


agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.


Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.


85% male. Any girl that is willing to go there will get some financial package, soccer or no soccer. Can’t be a great college experience for girls. But you saved money! Good for you!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.


agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.


Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.


85% male. Any girl that is willing to go there will get some financial package, soccer or no soccer. Can’t be a great college experience for girls. But you saved money! Good for you!


Apparently you don’t understand the difference between some financial assistance and a free ride. And maybe it wouldn’t be a great experience for your kid. That’s where you should end your sentence.

1 percent of the US population is military. 17 percent are female. Since you like stats.

West Point
Naval academy
Air Force academy
Coast Guard Academy
Merchant Marine Academy
VMI
Citadel
Norwich

These are kids that take a different path. They are not ordinary kids. Their “college experience” is so much more.

You obviously have zero understanding.
Anonymous
And yes, the majority of females at these schools are athletes
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Tell us, based on your observations, when should the best 36 players per age group be picked and consolidated and by whom. Who is the expert who is going to find, evaluate and pick the best in a population of 2.5 million people in NOVA.

Also, what exactly is the point to consolidate the best 36 while throwing away the other 100. You trust the system to be free of politics and fair. You believe all kids will stay the same?

Are you will to throw away talent song your kid can beat Real SoCal?



I posted the original. Why is narrowing the elite clubs to two “throwing the other kids away?” They would still play on non ECNL teams and have the chance to compete for ECNL positions on those teams. By the way, the next tier would be much better in that scenario and it would be much healthier for all involved. And what’s wrong with fielding local teams that can compete nationally? That’s how I’d define elite, not the watered down s show we have today.


What does compete nationally mean to you?





Again, the OP of this thought. The original response was the the comment that this area is a "hotbed" for youth girls soccer, with the justification of this comment by stating there are 7 "elite" girls teams locally (5 ECNL, 2 GA). While I agree there are many girls who play soccer here,I don't feel this qualifies the region as a "hotbed." If you look at the composition of those 7 "elite" teams, you find many non-elite players within. Distill those so called elite clubs from seven to two, and I believe then you'd have a true elite set of players on teams that could hang with the best in other regions. The fact there are 7 of these clubs has much more to do with the wallets of the parents in this area than the quality of talent in the girls pool vs. other regions.

The fact is that there is nothing special about this area with regard to attributes that would give girls who are raised here head and shoulders advantages over the other regions, and this region certainly doesn't have a population advantage over the other regions that consistently produce better teams than are found here. I understand that there is much privilege in this region. and many here feel themselves elite when compared to the other regions of the country, but this outsized ego needs to be checked with a little reality. Your job titles and salaries don't convey soccer talent to your daughters.

Two elite clubs with a pyramid up to compete for spots is about right. No hotbed, just a hot mess at present.


Another 80 sentence post of non-sense. I’m not claiming it’s a hotbed based solely on my belief. It is in fact considered A HOTBED by every single analyst in the country. It has been considered one for over twenty years. You are mistaken if you think you have a clue what you’re talking about in the regard. In fact, you don’t even read the response properly. It was said that it is fertile ground and a war to dominate the area created two many clubs on the girls side. I never said it was justification. I am in fact stating what happened. I also said three clubs need to go and four will do the trick if properly spaced. I further stated that if each county had one club we would be in much better shape...Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William.



It’s not a hotbed. It was a hotbed back in the 80s when many local players made it to the top. Now it’s a hot mess. You still haven’t disproven that statement.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am not going to run around saying I play with the greatest players in the greatest league when a third or more are excluded from the get go. High end youth soccer is great and my players love it but the marketing BS should go in one ear and out the other. It is a youth sports country club regardless of the spin.

A third? You are dreaming. Over half of us families make less than 75K a year. These families are not flying their kids around to play youth sports. You people are so in a bubble.


You're wrong. Plenty of kids playing on the top teams in this area with families making less than that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not going to run around saying I play with the greatest players in the greatest league when a third or more are excluded from the get go. High end youth soccer is great and my players love it but the marketing BS should go in one ear and out the other. It is a youth sports country club regardless of the spin.

A third? You are dreaming. Over half of us families make less than 75K a year. These families are not flying their kids around to play youth sports. You people are so in a bubble.


You're wrong. Plenty of kids playing on the top teams in this area with families making less than that.



I gotta fundraise with my players. We will be playing nationals this Summer in California
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone that plays in these type of leagues has had to travel by plane to some far flung location and rent a car and book a hotel to play a few youth soccer games against other teams full of families that have done the same. And the soccer played is virtually identical as if everyone had just stayed and played other competitive teams in their local area.

If you have not had to do this, you don't know anything about playing in this type of so-called high level league.


No they haven't. These trips do not necessarily occur every year (some clubs are more considerate of families' pocketbooks than others), and they are optional with some players choosing not to travel.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tell us, based on your observations, when should the best 36 players per age group be picked and consolidated and by whom. Who is the expert who is going to find, evaluate and pick the best in a population of 2.5 million people in NOVA.

Also, what exactly is the point to consolidate the best 36 while throwing away the other 100. You trust the system to be free of politics and fair. You believe all kids will stay the same?

Are you will to throw away talent song your kid can beat Real SoCal?



I posted the original. Why is narrowing the elite clubs to two “throwing the other kids away?” They would still play on non ECNL teams and have the chance to compete for ECNL positions on those teams. By the way, the next tier would be much better in that scenario and it would be much healthier for all involved. And what’s wrong with fielding local teams that can compete nationally? That’s how I’d define elite, not the watered down s show we have today.


You’re a goof. And, might I add, a hater. The type that spends his time trying to downgrade everything around him in an effort to elevate himself.



What does compete nationally mean to you?





Again, the OP of this thought. The original response was the the comment that this area is a "hotbed" for youth girls soccer, with the justification of this comment by stating there are 7 "elite" girls teams locally (5 ECNL, 2 GA). While I agree there are many girls who play soccer here,I don't feel this qualifies the region as a "hotbed." If you look at the composition of those 7 "elite" teams, you find many non-elite players within. Distill those so called elite clubs from seven to two, and I believe then you'd have a true elite set of players on teams that could hang with the best in other regions. The fact there are 7 of these clubs has much more to do with the wallets of the parents in this area than the quality of talent in the girls pool vs. other regions.

The fact is that there is nothing special about this area with regard to attributes that would give girls who are raised here head and shoulders advantages over the other regions, and this region certainly doesn't have a population advantage over the other regions that consistently produce better teams than are found here. I understand that there is much privilege in this region. and many here feel themselves elite when compared to the other regions of the country, but this outsized ego needs to be checked with a little reality. Your job titles and salaries don't convey soccer talent to your daughters.

Two elite clubs with a pyramid up to compete for spots is about right. No hotbed, just a hot mess at present.


Another 80 sentence post of non-sense. I’m not claiming it’s a hotbed based solely on my belief. It is in fact considered A HOTBED by every single analyst in the country. It has been considered one for over twenty years. You are mistaken if you think you have a clue what you’re talking about in the regard. In fact, you don’t even read the response properly. It was said that it is fertile ground and a war to dominate the area created two many clubs on the girls side. I never said it was justification. I am in fact stating what happened. I also said three clubs need to go and four will do the trick if properly spaced. I further stated that if each county had one club we would be in much better shape...Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William.



It’s not a hotbed. It was a hotbed back in the 80s when many local players made it to the top. Now it’s a hot mess. You still haven’t disproven that statement.
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