Just as I predicted, they call anyone who suggests something different a NIMBY. So predictable and actually a bit sad really. |
I'm the PP you're responding to. Please cite the part of my post where I call anyone a NIMBY. |
Exactly. When it comes to real estate, the old saying is that you have three choices: location, price and quality - pick two. These folks think that they can have it all and it is utterly ridiculous. But beyond that, I find it fascinating how different attitudes are now from when I first moved to this area in 1999. Back then, basically white people did not live east of 16th street and Logan Circle was dangerous and 14th street was a hotbed of prostitution. People, mainly gay, that first starting moving to these neighborhoods considered themselves "urban pioneers". They then proceeded to buy cheapy and invest in their neighborhoods and then more people came and invested and then the city invested (adding the Columbia Heights metro stop) and so on until these neighborhoods are what they are today. I guess people are not interested in taking risks and building value anymore. Typically instead, they feel entitled and deserve to live where they want. It's such a bizarre mindset, I have trouble wrapping my head around it. |
That's an interesting definition of "people" you're using there. |
Yeah, as a Black person I am talking about downwardly mobile, entitled white people like you. Get over yourself and go live someplace that you can afford, like everyone else in this city has to. |
The entire premise of this thread is to create housing opportunities for families. Townhouses are middle compromise between SFH and condos. As for real townhouse communities, building 100-200 townhouses in an organized community creates a real community, not the random collection of 10-20 townhouses. Moreover, the large mixed use developments in MoCo are simply bizzare. MoCo has that opportunity on the Pike. |
Well said. |
Well, no, actually to create housing. Housing for people who have children under 18 at home, as well as housing for people who don't have children under 18 at home. Everyone needs housing. When you say "townhouses are a middle compromise between single-family houses and condos" - I do not understand who is compromising what. Also, how do renters fit into this? I also don't understand your distinction between a townhouse community and, you know, townhouses in a community. Are you saying that it's possible for there to be a real community in an area with lots of different housing types? People who live in attached houses in a neighborhood can't form a community with people who live in detached houses in that neighborhood? And by "large mixed use developments," are you referring to Pike + Rose? Or maybe Crown Farm? Or...? What's bizarre about them, other than that they're brand-new (which your neighborhood was too, at one time)? |
It feels like the same pattern over and over. According to you, the only reasonable outcomes are exactly what you want and nothing else. So bizarre. You: We need more housing. Other people: great, how about townhomes. You: No, not that type of housing. It has to be exactly this type of housing and nothing else. |
Eh? Current zoning allows apartment buildings in mixed-use commercial/residential developments along Rockville Pike. The PP was saying no, the residential part shouldn't shouldn't be apartment buildings, it should be attached houses, because that's a compromise. Maybe the PP can explain their thinking a bit better here, because it doesn't immediately seem to make much sense. Not to mention there would be less housing if attached houses were built instead of apartment buildings. |
Here's another example of how you folks demand everything to be exactly what you want. You: We need more "missing middle" housing like townhomes, especially near metro stations. Me: Actually, there is a good deal of townhomes, have you looked? You: No, not those townhomes. I mean that there should be a townhome right next door to your house. Me: So there is no "missing middle" after all, your issue is not about adding more townhomes at all, you just hate my neighborhood? That's not normal. |
Really? People are proposing to change the zoning of just the properties adjoining the one you own, and no others? I'm so sorry. |