My kid is on the second team...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

Serious issues. Your poor kid, man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't possibly be this stupid. No coach wants a player who doesn't support his or her teammates.

No coach want s a player who is not driven to be a starter. However a player gets to that point emotionally it doesn't really matter. If the kid does their job that is all that matters.

so this sounds like the game plan for a hit man, not youth soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

Serious issues. Your poor kid, man.

Serious question. How many subs have left your team over the years for starting spots elsewhere? How many B team players left for another clubs A team?

Do you think they left happy? Do you think they left liking the coach, your club, your kid, you?

Do you honestly believe that a kid who gets 15-20 minutes a game is really cheering for your kid? Do you honestly think that same kid truly feels invested in the outcome of the game?

How naïve can you really be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

This can't seriously be the first time that it has occurred to parents that subs and B team players don't actually worship at the feet of their little starters?

You're a special kind of a-hole. I was a second-string / sub on some team sports when I was a kid. I was friends with starters and "A-team" players. It wasn't manipulation for crying out loud. I wasn't good enough -- I wasn't naturally talented enough, and wasn't motivated to work hard enough to improve my game enough -- to be a starter in some sports. I enjoyed playing and hanging out with my friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

This can't seriously be the first time that it has occurred to parents that subs and B team players don't actually worship at the feet of their little starters?

You're a special kind of a-hole. I was a second-string / sub on some team sports when I was a kid. I was friends with starters and "A-team" players. It wasn't manipulation for crying out loud. I wasn't good enough -- I wasn't naturally talented enough, and wasn't motivated to work hard enough to improve my game enough -- to be a starter in some sports. I enjoyed playing and hanging out with my friends.

And that is what made you a dream sub for the team and your friends. Congrats, you accepted your role. Now kindly get out of the way of others who don't accept that role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

This can't seriously be the first time that it has occurred to parents that subs and B team players don't actually worship at the feet of their little starters?

You're a special kind of a-hole. I was a second-string / sub on some team sports when I was a kid. I was friends with starters and "A-team" players. It wasn't manipulation for crying out loud. I wasn't good enough -- I wasn't naturally talented enough, and wasn't motivated to work hard enough to improve my game enough -- to be a starter in some sports. I enjoyed playing and hanging out with my friends.

And that is what made you a dream sub for the team and your friends. Congrats, you accepted your role. Now kindly get out of the way of others who don't accept that role.

No one needs to "get out of the way" because your son isn't going anywhere -- he's not going to be a soccer star. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

Serious issues. Your poor kid, man.

Serious question. How many subs have left your team over the years for starting spots elsewhere? How many B team players left for another clubs A team?

Do you think they left happy? Do you think they left liking the coach, your club, your kid, you?

Do you honestly believe that a kid who gets 15-20 minutes a game is really cheering for your kid? Do you honestly think that same kid truly feels invested in the outcome of the game?

How naïve can you really be?

Because I think you're crazy, I'll leave it at this last comment.

The kids who left the B team went to another B team. I've talked with some of those parents. They did not move to another A team. Why? Because they didn't have the skill set, which is why they were on B team to begin with. So apparently hating the A team kids didn't do them much good. They're on another B team at a different club just hating a new set of kids this time. Hate doesn't have much currency. Personally, I think time and energy is better spent honing your game and trying to make it an enjoyable experience. You could always learn from the A team kids. But you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

Serious issues. Your poor kid, man.

Serious question. How many subs have left your team over the years for starting spots elsewhere? How many B team players left for another clubs A team?

Do you think they left happy? Do you think they left liking the coach, your club, your kid, you?

Do you honestly believe that a kid who gets 15-20 minutes a game is really cheering for your kid? Do you honestly think that same kid truly feels invested in the outcome of the game?

How naïve can you really be?

Because I think you're crazy, I'll leave it at this last comment.

The kids who left the B team went to another B team. I've talked with some of those parents. They did not move to another A team. Why? Because they didn't have the skill set, which is why they were on B team to begin with. So apparently hating the A team kids didn't do them much good. They're on another B team at a different club just hating a new set of kids this time. Hate doesn't have much currency. Personally, I think time and energy is better spent honing your game and trying to make it an enjoyable experience. You could always learn from the A team kids. But you do you.

They simply accepted their circumstance. Some do and some don't. Playing the game is enjoying the game. Watching the game is not really as much fun. Continue to believe that kids really enjoy watching and cheering over playing.

[Anonymous]

Playing beats sitting the bench. Now, if your kids makes an A team and the first half year or so they start out on the bench but get increasing and significant playing time, and most importantly they are developing, then stick with it. If they simply ride the pine, nothing’s changing, and they aren’t enjoying it or learning much, then switch to a team where they will play significant minutes, be it a different A team or a B team.

[Anonymous]

Has this thread been bombed by the same troll who started the Lee thread? Feels like it to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what threatened parents say when they want the subs to accept their role. They believe challenging the status quo would upset the delicate balance of team chemistry and morale.

Being friendly with and wanting to take their spot are mutually exclusive. For the starter to use "friendship" as a way to manipulate and demotivate the teammate in the name of "friendship" is another technique used to protect ones status quo. We wouldn't want the sub to feel guilty by outplaying their friend now would we?

Dude, you have issues.

Serious issues. Your poor kid, man.

Serious question. How many subs have left your team over the years for starting spots elsewhere? How many B team players left for another clubs A team?

Do you think they left happy? Do you think they left liking the coach, your club, your kid, you?

Do you honestly believe that a kid who gets 15-20 minutes a game is really cheering for your kid? Do you honestly think that same kid truly feels invested in the outcome of the game?

How naïve can you really be?

Because I think you're crazy, I'll leave it at this last comment.

The kids who left the B team went to another B team. I've talked with some of those parents. They did not move to another A team. Why? Because they didn't have the skill set, which is why they were on B team to begin with. So apparently hating the A team kids didn't do them much good. They're on another B team at a different club just hating a new set of kids this time. Hate doesn't have much currency. Personally, I think time and energy is better spent honing your game and trying to make it an enjoyable experience. You could always learn from the A team kids. But you do you.

Sometimes a lateral move is made because the parents and players are douches...which trickles down to to their kids. I’ve seen that dynamic at A teams at a few clubs and the kids won’t pass to a player moved up for games and the parents actively gossip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing beats sitting the bench. Now, if your kids makes an A team and the first half year or so they start out on the bench but get increasing and significant playing time, and most importantly they are developing, then stick with it. If they simply ride the pine, nothing’s changing, and they aren’t enjoying it or learning much, then switch to a team where they will play significant minutes, be it a different A team or a B team.

If it’s below U12, nobody should be riding the pine.

But agree with this for older age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has this thread been bombed by the same troll who started the Lee thread? Feels like it to me.

Yes, by you apparently. Thanks for the useless post. Are you like this at work too? Peanut gallery guy.

[Anonymous]

I was watching the netflix documentary on the college admissions sandal and at the beginning they were talking to a college admissions person and they said this isn't the kids causing this, it is the parents. The parents didn't get into harvard but the kid did so the parents get to go to harvard.

that is what this whole A/B/C thing GA ECNL CCL thing is about it is for the parents to say hey my kid plays for....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't possibly be this stupid. No coach wants a player who doesn't support his or her teammates.

No coach want s a player who is not driven to be a starter. However a player gets to that point emotionally it doesn't really matter. If the kid does their job that is all that matters.

so this sounds like the game plan for a hit man, not youth soccer.

Shhh. This board is actually a place for arranging undercover assassinations. But we can't talk about these sorts of thing openly - we have to have a cover story and use codewords - hence all the soccer BS.

You didn't believe all these clubs were training soccer players did you? Why on earth do you think McLean needs 27 kids on a roster? Casualties - man - casualties. Every so often and operation goes wrong.

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