TJHSST Admissions Revised Proposal to be sent on 10/6

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If TJ will be a lottery based environment, how do we justify the allocation of funding it gets over and above other schools? They should just turn it back into a normal school and be done with it


It doesn't get any more funding from FCPS than any other school.


TJ gets a lot of private donations and sponsorships. Mainly because companies like associating with TJ and TJ has students to fill courses/clubs that will make good use of those donations, e.g. advanced computer equipment, robotics, chemistry/microbiology lab equipment, etc. That will slow when it turns into Chantilly Academy East. They'll still continue to get donations because of their history and because the academies sometimes get donations too, but not sure if it will be like on the scale as they did before.


TJ most certainly has a concerted effort to collect above and beyond what they recieve in public funds: http://www.tjptsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/guide-to-giving-2015-2016.pdf

The TJ Partnership Fund collects between $1.8-$2.2 million annually. http://www.tjpartnershipfund.org/uploaded/TJPF_2019_Annual_Report.pdf

They also get an extra $2million or so from the state of VA for being a Govenors school.

Another less known area that they gather resources is limiting the size of the school. The school could easily hold 2,000 students, but they are never above around 1,700 or so. They ensure this by not admitting the full 500 students each year that the school board has authorized. Keeping the student population down allows them to spend the resources in a smaller pool of kids.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If TJ will be a lottery based environment, how do we justify the allocation of funding it gets over and above other schools? They should just turn it back into a normal school and be done with it


It doesn't get any more funding from FCPS than any other school.


TJ gets a lot of private donations and sponsorships. Mainly because companies like associating with TJ and TJ has students to fill courses/clubs that will make good use of those donations, e.g. advanced computer equipment, robotics, chemistry/microbiology lab equipment, etc. That will slow when it turns into Chantilly Academy East. They'll still continue to get donations because of their history and because the academies sometimes get donations too, but not sure if it will be like on the scale as they did before.


TJ most certainly has a concerted effort to collect above and beyond what they recieve in public funds: http://www.tjptsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/guide-to-giving-2015-2016.pdf

The TJ Partnership Fund collects between $1.8-$2.2 million annually. http://www.tjpartnershipfund.org/uploaded/TJPF_2019_Annual_Report.pdf

They also get an extra $2million or so from the state of VA for being a Govenors school.

Another less known area that they gather resources is limiting the size of the school. The school could easily hold 2,000 students, but they are never above around 1,700 or so. They ensure this by not admitting the full 500 students each year that the school board has authorized. Keeping the student population down allows them to spend the resources in a smaller pool of kids.



It’s a travesty FCPS lets so much money flow towards a single school and then allows that school to offer a very different experience than all the rest.

Just letting a few more Black and Hispanic experience it is an exercise in tokenism designed to mask the underlying lack of real equity. Shame on FCPS for perpetuating such inequity and then pretending it’s going to go away by displacing some Asian kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If TJ will be a lottery based environment, how do we justify the allocation of funding it gets over and above other schools? They should just turn it back into a normal school and be done with it


It doesn't get any more funding from FCPS than any other school.


TJ gets a lot of private donations and sponsorships. Mainly because companies like associating with TJ and TJ has students to fill courses/clubs that will make good use of those donations, e.g. advanced computer equipment, robotics, chemistry/microbiology lab equipment, etc. That will slow when it turns into Chantilly Academy East. They'll still continue to get donations because of their history and because the academies sometimes get donations too, but not sure if it will be like on the scale as they did before.


TJ most certainly has a concerted effort to collect above and beyond what they recieve in public funds: http://www.tjptsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/guide-to-giving-2015-2016.pdf

The TJ Partnership Fund collects between $1.8-$2.2 million annually. http://www.tjpartnershipfund.org/uploaded/TJPF_2019_Annual_Report.pdf

They also get an extra $2million or so from the state of VA for being a Govenors school.

Another less known area that they gather resources is limiting the size of the school. The school could easily hold 2,000 students, but they are never above around 1,700 or so. They ensure this by not admitting the full 500 students each year that the school board has authorized. Keeping the student population down allows them to spend the resources in a smaller pool of kids.



It’s a travesty FCPS lets so much money flow towards a single school and then allows that school to offer a very different experience than all the rest.

Just letting a few more Black and Hispanic experience it is an exercise in tokenism designed to mask the underlying lack of real equity. Shame on FCPS for perpetuating such inequity and then pretending it’s going to go away by displacing some Asian kids.


They should just turn it into a post-AP academy. Every course that TJ freshman and sophomores take is offered at the vast majority of the base schools. Just change it to academy model.
Anonymous
Great idea
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Great idea


I agree with this. The academic profile of this school after a lottery won't be any stronger than a half-dozen neighborhood schools so why not reclaim TJ for the additional seats for county students and then start a STEM academy where students at Annandale, Falls Church, Jefferson and Justice would all have access to Academy courses.

Anonymous
Imagine if we said we should get rid of major league baseball so that the minor league gets more attention/funding. Or get rid of the Olympics so that local amateur sports can flourish more. Get rid of research universities so that community colleges can get more focus.
Anonymous
The reason we have AAP and schools like TJ I'd that students are not equally equipped for academics. To the extent that we do try to maximize the resources available to all students, we must recognize and provide more demanding learning opportunities for those that are better prepared to excel in such an environment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if we said we should get rid of major league baseball so that the minor league gets more attention/funding. Or get rid of the Olympics so that local amateur sports can flourish more. Get rid of research universities so that community colleges can get more focus.

This is a poor analogy. Education in the United States is not on the same level as sports. Can we just stop comparing the two please?
Anonymous
Advanced Math/Science academy is the way to go

Students would go there for 12th and maybe 11th after they maxed out the courses at their base school
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if we said we should get rid of major league baseball so that the minor league gets more attention/funding. Or get rid of the Olympics so that local amateur sports can flourish more. Get rid of research universities so that community colleges can get more focus.

This is a poor analogy. Education in the United States is not on the same level as sports. Can we just stop comparing the two please?


Ridiculous Tiger parents comparing their pimply 14-year-old kids to professional athletes? Please come up with better analogies.
Anonymous
Did they conclude they do not need a live broadcast of the work session scheduled for 6:30 tonight? Does that really comply with open meeting laws? So dysfunctional, Brabrand. RESIGN!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did they conclude they do not need a live broadcast of the work session scheduled for 6:30 tonight? Does that really comply with open meeting laws? So dysfunctional, Brabrand. RESIGN!


Yeah, right? I was wondering why its not being shown on ch 99
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if we said we should get rid of major league baseball so that the minor league gets more attention/funding. Or get rid of the Olympics so that local amateur sports can flourish more. Get rid of research universities so that community colleges can get more focus.

This is a poor analogy. Education in the United States is not on the same level as sports. Can we just stop comparing the two please?


Ridiculous Tiger parents comparing their pimply 14-year-old kids to professional athletes? Please come up with better analogies.


Then do a lottery for high school sports teams. My kid who has never played soccer deserves to be on the HS varsity team.
Anonymous
The TJ work session is now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if we said we should get rid of major league baseball so that the minor league gets more attention/funding. Or get rid of the Olympics so that local amateur sports can flourish more. Get rid of research universities so that community colleges can get more focus.

This is a poor analogy. Education in the United States is not on the same level as sports. Can we just stop comparing the two please?


Ridiculous Tiger parents comparing their pimply 14-year-old kids to professional athletes? Please come up with better analogies.


Then do a lottery for high school sports teams. My kid who has never played soccer deserves to be on the HS varsity team.

Fine, most kids playing varsity sports have no future playing professional sports. We all know this.
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