Recording all Zoom classes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't the teacher point a separate camera (phone for example) at him/herself and record the lesson from that perspective- it keeps the children off the screen, and their voices won't even be that audible, but still captures the teacher's lesson.

There's easier ways to do it that wouldn't involve a second device (e.g., OBS). But, you couldn't really do that in a discussion-heavy lesson. Students would only be hearing half the discussion.

I think everyone is overreacting. I sort of understand why people wouldn't feel comfortable with video, but I really don't understand the problem with audio. Just record the class with the teacher's video pinned.

[Anonymous]

It is not an overreaction to having everything you say throughout the day being recorded. It adds an unacceptable layer of pressure that is not present in a real classroom. If teachers want to record live classes, ok - but we should not be forced into it - this is akin to having a webcam installed in all our classrooms for absent students to view (get ready, as this is a slippery slope to what is coming when we partially and then fully return to the classroom). If a class is heavily discussion based, then an absent student, by default, would no be parting in the discussion anyway; yes, they could listen to to later - but conceive of how forthcoming students will be during a discussion that they know is being recorded.

[Anonymous]

When you go through ParentVue to set up your kids' information, there is a box that lets you opt-out of having your kid's image and voice appear on Zoom recordings. I opted out. Anyone worried about this issue should do the same. Hopefully then they will just record the teacher for future playback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a blank screen at least students not using video should create some kind of image with their name. Original artwork, a picture of their pet, a nature photo—something. It’s very hard to teach or perform to a screen full of names and no faces. Teaching is about connection.

But teaching is not about building relationships with students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not an overreaction to having everything you say throughout the day being recorded. It adds an unacceptable layer of pressure that is not present in a real classroom. If teachers want to record live classes, ok - but we should not be forced into it - this is akin to having a webcam installed in all our classrooms for absent students to view (get ready, as this is a slippery slope to what is coming when we partially and then fully return to the classroom). If a class is heavily discussion based, then an absent student, by default, would no be parting in the discussion anyway; yes, they could listen to to later - but conceive of how forthcoming students will be during a discussion that they know is being recorded.

Pressure? On who? The teacher? The students?

I really don't get it. From the students' perspective, anything they say or do is basically "in public" either way. They're speaking in front of their peers, and ostensibly what they say might impact their grades. I don't see why recording substantially changes that from a "pressure" perspective.

And from the teacher's perspective, I don't see how this is particularly different than many other professions that involve recorded presentations/conferences/webinars/etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you go through ParentVue to set up your kids' information, there is a box that lets you opt-out of having your kid's image and voice appear on Zoom recordings. I opted out. Anyone worried about this issue should do the same. Hopefully then they will just record the teacher for future playback.

When did they ever post they were taping our kids. I don't think many people realize this. I think they are trying to keep this under the radar. If my kid's teachers are recording everything and my kids show up in person and have to be blocked the whole time and can not participate, we might as well just homeschool. This is a terrible situation to put you kids, tweens, teens, and teachers in. It also means the teachers have to have a list of who to block, not call on, and it will be an issue between kids and parents. Parents and teachers. Teachers and kids.

Why have a live schedule if you are allowing people 72 hours after the fact to catch up. Won't it be a benefit to many teens not to wake up? Many families to take long weekend vacations? Many kids to purposely not sign in so they have 3 more days to do homework? How will the kids learn all together? Will tests not be live either? This is putting so much more work on the teachers. Who is blocked, who isn't. Who can I call on and who can't I. Is someone blacking their screen that shouldn't be so they can play video games? Who hasn't turned in homework and why? Who is still 2 classes behind and can I post a quiz? How many kids will even show up in my class today and if only 7 do and they want to be blocked do I teach to a black screen and make sure the kids can't talk so the other 15 kids (and God knows who else) who watch it later will not see the other kids?

There needs to be county-wide accommodations for those who choose not to show up to class. Not school or teacher accommodations. They have enough on their hands. I am so disappointed in MCPS again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not an overreaction to having everything you say throughout the day being recorded. It adds an unacceptable layer of pressure that is not present in a real classroom. If teachers want to record live classes, ok - but we should not be forced into it - this is akin to having a webcam installed in all our classrooms for absent students to view (get ready, as this is a slippery slope to what is coming when we partially and then fully return to the classroom). If a class is heavily discussion based, then an absent student, by default, would no be parting in the discussion anyway; yes, they could listen to to later - but conceive of how forthcoming students will be during a discussion that they know is being recorded.

Pressure? On who? The teacher? The students?

I really don't get it. From the students' perspective, anything they say or do is basically "in public" either way. They're speaking in front of their peers, and ostensibly what they say might impact their grades. I don't see why recording substantially changes that from a "pressure" perspective.

And from the teacher's perspective, I don't see how this is particularly different than many other professions that involve recorded presentations/conferences/webinars/etc.

Is your entire day recorded PP - for all who want to see over the next 72 hours? It can be played back, scrutinized, recorded, small pieces sent to your boss, and maybe some things posted on social media. Please stop comparing one professional presentation with all adults to a teacher having to record her teachings all day long to kids who may or may not be blocked from participating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a blank screen at least students not using video should create some kind of image with their name. Original artwork, a picture of their pet, a nature photo—something. It’s very hard to teach or perform to a screen full of names and no faces. Teaching is about connection.

But teaching is not about building relationships with students.

MCPS is telling the teachers the opposite. I have come to the realization that I am going to spending a lot of time talking at black zoom screens on mute. It’s going to feel a lot more like a twitch stream then a traditional learning experience. Lots of direct insruction, check-ins in chat, maybe some breakout rooms if I can figure out how to get students engaged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not an overreaction to having everything you say throughout the day being recorded. It adds an unacceptable layer of pressure that is not present in a real classroom. If teachers want to record live classes, ok - but we should not be forced into it - this is akin to having a webcam installed in all our classrooms for absent students to view (get ready, as this is a slippery slope to what is coming when we partially and then fully return to the classroom). If a class is heavily discussion based, then an absent student, by default, would no be parting in the discussion anyway; yes, they could listen to to later - but conceive of how forthcoming students will be during a discussion that they know is being recorded.

Pressure? On who? The teacher? The students?

I really don't get it. From the students' perspective, anything they say or do is basically "in public" either way. They're speaking in front of their peers, and ostensibly what they say might impact their grades. I don't see why recording substantially changes that from a "pressure" perspective.

And from the teacher's perspective, I don't see how this is particularly different than many other professions that involve recorded presentations/conferences/webinars/etc.

Is your entire day recorded PP - for all who want to see over the next 72 hours? It can be played back, scrutinized, recorded, small pieces sent to your boss, and maybe some things posted on social media. Please stop comparing one professional presentation with all adults to a teacher having to record her teachings all day long to kids who may or may not be blocked from participating.

Sounds like you're not very confident your teaching abilities. Maybe not for you.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

I really wonder how many of the complaints in this thread are actually coming from teachers that don't want parents to be able to see how much effort they're putting into their lessons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t bother me at all. Kids who can’t make it need access to the class. -Parent of 3rd grader

You must have missed all of the posts last Spring of the kids making fun of each other, recording segments, posting them online and on social media outlets. It is the new form of bullying and it is permanent. And yes, it was happening even in ES.

j

You recognize that now that this is happening on "school time," it is actually something that schools can suspend for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are they actually using Zoom? You know you can just record the active speaker, right? It's not like the full gallery view of all the students would need to get recorded.

+1. The teachers will have to learn to repeat any Qs asked by students before answering or sum up some kind of intra-kid discussion, which is what we expect of professional speakers anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t bother me at all. Kids who can’t make it need access to the class. -Parent of 3rd grader

You must have missed all of the posts last Spring of the kids making fun of each other, recording segments, posting them online and on social media outlets. It is the new form of bullying and it is permanent. And yes, it was happening even in ES.

j

You recognize that now that this is happening on "school time," it is actually something that schools can suspend for?

If kids already figured out they can can record video calls on their own (which, of course they did), then I really don't see why anyone is complaining about the school doing this for kids that have to miss live instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of a blank screen at least students not using video should create some kind of image with their name. Original artwork, a picture of their pet, a nature photo—something. It’s very hard to teach or perform to a screen full of names and no faces. Teaching is about connection.

But teaching is not about building relationships with students.

Actually it is the first and most important part of education.