My family’s personal experience with a potential Coronavirus infection - not good

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He has had a fever, sweating, chills and fatigue for 9 days. Cough started on day 5. Diagnosed with pneumonia today (day 9). When at the doctor earlier this week, he inquired about Coronavirus because his flu test was negative and this came on within a week of being with a group in which several members had just returned from travel in Europe. Furthermore, he spent time in a US resort over Pres. Day with a lot of tourists from all over the east coast. Doctor said prob not Coronavirus if he hasn’t been exposed to a known infected person and since he hasn’t been to China.

Returned to doctor today because fever and illness continues and pushed harder on the Coronavirus question and she said it’s feasible to be concerned but there isn’t anything she can do other than advise him to call the county health department. She can’t test and has been told only to use screening procedures which inquire about recent travel (as if that even matters anymore).

He called the county health department immediately after leaving doctor and they said that he doesn’t sound high risk because he hasn’t been out of the country. He pushed back and said that that doesn’t seem to matter anymore, and they didn’t budge.

So basically, a person who is legitimately concerned about this is on their own. Good luck getting help.

I’m FURIOUS.

What exactly would you like them to do differently?

Advise us how to proceed to be tested and to take this seriously. Mainly so we know if he needs to be quarantined to protect others. Lastly, two of his family members are immunocompromised, so it would be beneficial to know.

[b]Why don’t you just keep him away from those family members and have him self quarantine. Everyone wins.

New poster. You and some other PPs are totally ignorant of the entire point of getting test results for coronavirus. It is NOT just about the one patient, and saying "just have him self quarantine" is not helpful, nor is the poster who said why bother to test, just treat the pneumonia. The country needs to track ALL coronavirus cases and getting test results is the only way to do that.

If OP's child has the virus, that is a data point in the tracking of the disease and what's more, health departments need to know who else has had contact with him, his family needs advice on how to self-quarantine the ENTIRE family (not just the one child), the parents have to tell their employers they are going into quarantine. Health care workers/doctor/nurses/others in doctors' waiting rooms with him previously need to be told and tracked because they were exposed to him.

How do so many posters on DCUM utterly fail understand that it is a huge risk to many, many more people to think like this: "It doesn't matter if it's coronavirus, don't worry about testing, just treat the pneumonia and everyone else in the household goes about their daily lives." That's a recipe for a cluster of cases affecting the family and possibly every patient, doctor and nurse who has been around him. The OP is entirely right to be concerned for both son, the whole family AND the larger community.

I find OP's experience so far very, very disturbing. Especially the part where the health department said the son didn't meet criteria for testing. I had heard that the CDC had lowered the bar on testing so that people did not have to be showing big-time symptoms or pneumonia etc. to be tested. Sounds like that is not the case, or the news has not trickled down to local health departments.

OP, please -- when you have more news, let us know. Both about your dear son and about your progress or lack of it with the health authorities.

Because what people are losing sight of is that actually getting coronavirus is really no big deal. It kills a slightly higher number of people than the flu. It's no more dangerous (and probably less so than getting pneumonia. This isn't the black plague people. Personally I couldn't give a f**k if I got Coranivirus.

Great. Go lick some doorknobs and let us know how that turns out for you.

At least the Black Plague is treatable in modern times with antibiotics...

[Anonymous]

They are testing DOGS in Hong Kong but OP’s family member can’t get tested here.

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dog-tests-weak-positive-for-coronavirus-in-hong-kong-but-dont-panic-just-yet/
“ A spokesperson for the Hong Kong Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) confirmed that the dog of a patient infected with COVID-19 is under quarantine after oral, nasal, and rectal samples tested mildly positive for the virus. ”

[Anonymous]

Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

[Anonymous]

Virginia is now one of the states to get its own lab approved by the CDC so tests can be concluded in less a day. More states need to get their own labs and CDC needs to stop the red tape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia is now one of the states to get its own lab approved by the CDC so tests can be concluded in less a day. More states need to get their own labs and CDC needs to stop the red tape.

Apparently Maryland is not. https://www.wbaltv.com/article/coronavirus-recent-maryland-cases-test-negative/31189182#

(Also, check out the sign language interpreter in the press conference video halfway down the page. He's kind of stealing the show)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia is now one of the states to get its own lab approved by the CDC so tests can be concluded in less a day. More states need to get their own labs and CDC needs to stop the red tape.

This is awesome. All states need the ability to do this.

https://vpm.org/news/articles/11150/state-health-lab-doing-own-covid-19-tests-incident-management-team-working-on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

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"A bacterial virus"? Will you stop talking nonsense entirely out of your lane??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

LOL. I think we are all a little bit dumber reading this nonsense. Shut your pie hole, PP, you are clueless!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would they do differently if it was coronavirus and not some other virus?

Exactly. OP just wants the clout of being able to say her family member has conavirus. Just do the same things you would do whenever you have any other type of mild illness, which is all coronavirus really is.

It is not just another mild illness - how can you even imagine that something that has quarantined nearly a quarter of the world's population is just another mild illness? It is extremely contagious, and it can require hospitalization of 20% of those infected. The proportion of those 20% who will die mostly depends on whether we have enough intensive care to help them.

Healthcare systems in the US have put a lot of work into making sure we have exactly the number of intensive care bed that we need in an everyday situation, because the buffer is wasted money. This means it is extremely likely that a few more days into the exponential spread of this illness we will run out of intensive care beds to care for those folks who could survive, and many won't.

How hard is it to understand this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

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"A bacterial virus"? Will you stop talking nonsense entirely out of your lane??

You catch this bacterial virus from the spores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

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"A bacterial virus"? Will you stop talking nonsense entirely out of your lane??

You catch this bacterial virus from the spores.

But only if you eat the prions before noon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

'

"A bacterial virus"? Will you stop talking nonsense entirely out of your lane??

You catch this bacterial virus from the spores.

Pneumonia is viral or bacterial. More than likely the op’s relative has viral pneumonia not bacterial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pneumonia is serious all on its own:
https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

There is also a vaccine for people 65+.

There is a vaccine for the pneumonia caused by a different virus.
There is no vaccine for the pneumonias caused by bacteria, or by coronavirus.
Yes, pneumonia is very serious, and it is the way that COVID-19 patients get very ill, and some die. A larger proportion of COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia if/when there isn't enough capacity in hospitals to care for all the severely and critically ill of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Some pneumonia patients require mechanical ventilation. In the USA, our mechanical ventilation capacity is 70 per 100,000 population.

People die with pneumonia. Covid isn’t a bacterial virus. The op’s family member has pneumonia. Probably viral and just as serious as covid 19.

The Op has had zero experience with covid 19 and should not be freaking out on what might be and focus on what is. Treat the symptoms for pneumonia, op.

'

"A bacterial virus"? Will you stop talking nonsense entirely out of your lane??

You catch this bacterial virus from the spores.

Pneumonia is viral or bacterial. More than likely the op’s relative has viral pneumonia not bacterial.

Most likely fungal (or viral fungal) if there are spores involved.