Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed

Anonymous
Why would a cop shoot an unarmed elderly couple and their disabled son? - because he could. The badge is a license to kill and abuse people. So sick of it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The man who supposedly assaulted the police officer was a big guy. I can see how the police officer would have felt threatened being attacked by that guy especially since he was carrying his young child.

If the elderly parents tried to physically intervene in some way, hitting the officer or otherwise getting physical with him, that may have prompted the shooting. We don't know what happened.

I hope they got this on surveillance video.



And yet here you are creating your own narrative.


According to the links posted in the Op, the officer was holding his own small child when the man attacked him unprovoked. The man was shot and killed and somehow the man's parents were also shot. My *guess* is that the parents were trying to protect/defend their son and wound up being physically aggressive with the officer in the process which prompted the officer to shoot them. I'm not saying that is what happened, obviously I was not there, but common sense says that the parents must have somehow been involved in the altercation. The officer wasn't just shooting random shoppers. He specifically shot those 3 people after he was attacked by the man.

I'll leave it to the investigators to determine what exactly happened and whether or not the officer acted appropriately. From my armchair quarterback position I'm finding it hard to believe that the officer felt threatened by those 2 elderly parents but I have also not seen the videotape of the incident.


Please let’s not hide behind the “officer was holding his own small child” excuse, or let’s arm all the mothers holding “their own small children”. Somehow, if this was mother with child instead of an “officer”, none of this would have happened.


If a woman shopper was holding her small child and she was attacked by that big guy I would expect that the woman would try to defend herself and her child. If she had a gun and felt that her and/or her child's life was as stake, yes, I would think she would shoot her attacker(s).



Really? I wouldn't. I would expect her to retreat to safety because life isn't Call of Duty. FFS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why would a cop shoot an unarmed elderly couple and their disabled son? - because he could. The badge is a license to kill and abuse people. So sick of it.


Once again, WE DON’T HAVE ANY OF THE FACTS. We don’t know what happened.
Way to make sh!t up and get all upset about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The man who supposedly assaulted the police officer was a big guy. I can see how the police officer would have felt threatened being attacked by that guy especially since he was carrying his young child.

If the elderly parents tried to physically intervene in some way, hitting the officer or otherwise getting physical with him, that may have prompted the shooting. We don't know what happened.

I hope they got this on surveillance video.



And yet here you are creating your own narrative.


According to the links posted in the Op, the officer was holding his own small child when the man attacked him unprovoked. The man was shot and killed and somehow the man's parents were also shot. My *guess* is that the parents were trying to protect/defend their son and wound up being physically aggressive with the officer in the process which prompted the officer to shoot them. I'm not saying that is what happened, obviously I was not there, but common sense says that the parents must have somehow been involved in the altercation. The officer wasn't just shooting random shoppers. He specifically shot those 3 people after he was attacked by the man.

I'll leave it to the investigators to determine what exactly happened and whether or not the officer acted appropriately. From my armchair quarterback position I'm finding it hard to believe that the officer felt threatened by those 2 elderly parents but I have also not seen the videotape of the incident.


Please let’s not hide behind the “officer was holding his own small child” excuse, or let’s arm all the mothers holding “their own small children”. Somehow, if this was mother with child instead of an “officer”, none of this would have happened.


If a woman shopper was holding her small child and she was attacked by that big guy I would expect that the woman would try to defend herself and her child. If she had a gun and felt that her and/or her child's life was as stake, yes, I would think she would shoot her attacker(s).



Really? I wouldn't. I would expect her to retreat to safety because life isn't Call of Duty. FFS.


Again if she was being *attacked* by that big guy. If you are in the process of being attacked it is not so easy to "retreat to safety". Good grief.
Anonymous
The young man’s parents had moved to California to care for the mom’s elderly parents. This is just getting sadder and sadder.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would a cop shoot an unarmed elderly couple and their disabled son? - because he could. The badge is a license to kill and abuse people. So sick of it.


Once again, WE DON’T HAVE ANY OF THE FACTS. We don’t know what happened.
Way to make sh!t up and get all upset about it.


We do know the facts, the family was unarmed. The cop had a gun and shot 3 unarmed people. Why didn't the on duty cops shoot the shooter like the usually do? They are all on the same team, see?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts if you think a man who was holding his child is going to pick a fight with some gigantic stranger.

You're also crazy if you think the guy has any obligation to go "hand to hand" against a monstrous, blank-faced attacker.


The only witness accounts so far say there was an argument, not a physical attack. No need for a gun for a verbal dispute.


It is also reported that he was non-verbal, so how there would be an argument is beyond me.
Anonymous
Pulling out a gun and shooting it while holding a small child seems crazy to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts if you think a man who was holding his child is going to pick a fight with some gigantic stranger.

You're also crazy if you think the guy has any obligation to go "hand to hand" against a monstrous, blank-faced attacker.


The only witness accounts so far say there was an argument, not a physical attack. No need for a gun for a verbal dispute.


It is also reported that he was non-verbal, so how there would be an argument is beyond me.


It could be a case where the son bumped into him, the cop thought the son pushed him intentionally and started yelling, parents intervene to defend their son/defuse the situation, cop keeps yelling, son gets agitated by the yelling, and cop with an itchy trigger finger shoots everyone because he feels “threatened.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts if you think a man who was holding his child is going to pick a fight with some gigantic stranger.

You're also crazy if you think the guy has any obligation to go "hand to hand" against a monstrous, blank-faced attacker.


The only witness accounts so far say there was an argument, not a physical attack. No need for a gun for a verbal dispute.


It is also reported that he was non-verbal, so how there would be an argument is beyond me.


It could be a case where the son bumped into him, the cop thought the son pushed him intentionally and started yelling, parents intervene to defend their son/defuse the situation, cop keeps yelling, son gets agitated by the yelling, and cop with an itchy trigger finger shoots everyone because he feels “threatened.”


I suspect this is what happened. Possibly the victim bumped into the child who started crying.
Anonymous
It’s so easy to bump someone unintentionally with those oversized carts in a busy Costco. Scary to think you might have a unstable person with a concealed weapon ready to shoot you if you get into an argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts if you think a man who was holding his child is going to pick a fight with some gigantic stranger.

You're also crazy if you think the guy has any obligation to go "hand to hand" against a monstrous, blank-faced attacker.


The only witness accounts so far say there was an argument, not a physical attack. No need for a gun for a verbal dispute.


It is also reported that he was non-verbal, so how there would be an argument is beyond me.


It could be a case where the son bumped into him, the cop thought the son pushed him intentionally and started yelling, parents intervene to defend their son/defuse the situation, cop keeps yelling, son gets agitated by the yelling, and cop with an itchy trigger finger shoots everyone because he feels “threatened.”


I suspect this is what happened. Possibly the victim bumped into the child who started crying.


Oh, I doubt it was anything so simple. Maybe the cop and this guy bumped into each other by mistake and that triggered the guy who then proceeded to physically assault the cop. The parents stepped in as the situation quickly deteriorated and the cop shot all 3 of them.

I do not think this was a mere verbal altercation. There was some sort of physical threat to the officer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts if you think a man who was holding his child is going to pick a fight with some gigantic stranger.

You're also crazy if you think the guy has any obligation to go "hand to hand" against a monstrous, blank-faced attacker.


The only witness accounts so far say there was an argument, not a physical attack. No need for a gun for a verbal dispute.


It is also reported that he was non-verbal, so how there would be an argument is beyond me.


It could be a case where the son bumped into him, the cop thought the son pushed him intentionally and started yelling, parents intervene to defend their son/defuse the situation, cop keeps yelling, son gets agitated by the yelling, and cop with an itchy trigger finger shoots everyone because he feels “threatened.”


I suspect this is what happened. Possibly the victim bumped into the child who started crying.


Oh, I doubt it was anything so simple. Maybe the cop and this guy bumped into each other by mistake and that triggered the guy who then proceeded to physically assault the cop. The parents stepped in as the situation quickly deteriorated and the cop shot all 3 of them.

I do not think this was a mere verbal altercation. There was some sort of physical threat to the officer.


Why do you assume the victim would respond by physically assaulting the cop? How many SN adults are you around on a regular basis? Most would back away from a confrontation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts if you think a man who was holding his child is going to pick a fight with some gigantic stranger.

You're also crazy if you think the guy has any obligation to go "hand to hand" against a monstrous, blank-faced attacker.


The only witness accounts so far say there was an argument, not a physical attack. No need for a gun for a verbal dispute.


It is also reported that he was non-verbal, so how there would be an argument is beyond me.


It could be a case where the son bumped into him, the cop thought the son pushed him intentionally and started yelling, parents intervene to defend their son/defuse the situation, cop keeps yelling, son gets agitated by the yelling, and cop with an itchy trigger finger shoots everyone because he feels “threatened.”


I suspect this is what happened. Possibly the victim bumped into the child who started crying.


Oh, I doubt it was anything so simple. Maybe the cop and this guy bumped into each other by mistake and that triggered the guy who then proceeded to physically assault the cop. The parents stepped in as the situation quickly deteriorated and the cop shot all 3 of them.

I do not think this was a mere verbal altercation. There was some sort of physical threat to the officer.


The victim wasn’t known to be violent. He was describes as gentle giant and no one who knew him has refuted that. I wish the cop’s name was released so we could hear what people who know him have to say.
Anonymous
Today:

CHULA VISTA — A couple loading groceries into a car at a Chula Vista Costco on Monday afternoon was shot several times by a gunman who then turned the weapon on himself in a deadly domestic violence ambush, police said.
—LATimes.com

Think I’ll avoid Costco for a while.
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