I think the ultrasound tech was drunk when she did my anatomy scan today

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

Hmm and when did you give birth the first time? I was recommended both and my birth was at 36 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

Hmm and when did you give birth the first time? I was recommended both and my birth was at 36 weeks.

Not quite 28 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

What's PTL and PTL? Would you mind explaining?

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

Hmm and when did you give birth the first time? I was recommended both and my birth was at 36 weeks.

Not quite 28 weeks.

Ok. That sounds more serious than my first birth. I am happy things worked out for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

Hmm and when did you give birth the first time? I was recommended both and my birth was at 36 weeks.

PP again. As someone whose goal it was to get to 34 weeks, I would have a very discussion with the doctor of the risks v where I was. I know 36 weeks is a preemie, but it isn’t a bad situation at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

Hmm and when did you give birth the first time? I was recommended both and my birth was at 36 weeks.

PP again. As someone whose goal it was to get to 34 weeks, I would have a very discussion with the doctor of the risks v where I was. I know 36 weeks is a preemie, but it isn’t a bad situation at all.

*very different discussion*

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Routine universal cervical length screening in the midtrimester does not accurately predict subsequent preterm birth. It is far more likely that you will make it to term than deliver early, even with a short cervix. There are no proven treatments to prevent preterm birth, or at least none that have shown conclusive evidence of benefit.

This is not true when there is a history of preterm delivery. Jesus.

This is absolutely true. Nothing has been proven to treat premature births. This is why I decided not to do the mekena.

Cerclages. Makena is for preterm contractions and labor. It is approved by FDA safe and effective. Cerclages are for IC. Bed rest has never been proven to be beneficial, but that only means that the study has not been done. It is still widely used, particularly by MFMs who have track resorts of excellent results. You are just misinformed.

PP would someone need to do both of these treatments?

My MFM had me do both. Because he didn’t know if I had an IC that caused PTL or PTL caused me to dilate so early. Whatever it was, it worked and I had full term babies after having a preemie in the second trimester.

I think it is unusual to do both. I had a very conservative MFM and we discussed this options extensively, including the downsides, risks, unknowns and available evidence. I wanted to do whatever it took to get to 34 weeks.

What's PTL and PTL? Would you mind explaining?

Preterm labor

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Was the doctor drunk too?

OP here. Well I do live in Florida now so maybe?
Anything is possible here. My "consult" as they called it lasted for 5 minutes in the ultrasound room.

You're the FL poster. You have like a 3 yr old (by now) DS. Live by the beach, posted in relationship forum about dh

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Anonymous wrote:If there’s another tech at that office, ask for her. Otherwise, it sounds bizarre but give her one more chance. If things are weird next time, just talk to your doctor about your concerns.

OP here. Hopefully I do not have to go back to this office. The doctor there ( who is not my obgyn) recommended that I do transvaginal ultrasounds. She said we can see if my obgyn is ok with this. She wanted me to consent to this treatment and start scheduling them every 2 weeks. This was all based on what I told the doctor about my previous premature birth. They did not have access to my records. I don't think I actually have incompetent cervix. This is the first time I have ever heard this.

You are literally a nutjob

OP here. I spoke to the nurse at my obgyn office this morning. She called me back this afternoon to say I do NOT have cervix problems. My doctor does NOT want me to do transvaginal ultrasounds. The one from yesterday was not necessary. I did meet with a high risk doctor at the office yesterday but my appointment was rushed. The doctor from yesterday did NOT talk to me about my ultrasound results.

Do NOT agree to transvaginal ultrasounds. I've had a lot of them because of my endometriosis and they're not comfortable. It's creepy they would suggest it for a history of preterm birth. My first was born at 32 weeks, and my high risk OB did not suggest TV for my second pregnancy.

I ended up leaving my high risk OB to go to a midwife practice because of other reasons, but you can leave that practice too and go to another OB.

OP here. Good to know. They were pressuring me to do these every 2 weeks from 18-24 week's. I even had to sign a paper saying I would not consent. I told them I wanted to run it by my obgyn first and figure out insurance costs. The ultrasound tech told me several times it was based on the fact that they thought I had an incompetent cervix. I did have 2 ultrasounds at this office yesterday. One was the anatomy scan and then a transvaginal ultrasound.

Listen OP I don't know you but it doesn't sound like you personally have a very good grip on your own medical history and that, simultaneously, you are prone to be suspicious of your medical care and the questions they ask. That said I also think that the fact that no doctor came in to talk to you about your scan is nuts. That is standard, someone should have told you everything looked normal or something like an incompetent cervix was present.

If you want to know what is right then you need to take some personal responsibility for your health and you need to figure out a few things:

1) You need to determine what doctor's believe was the cause of your first premature birth. It is a GOOD thing that the tech and doctors asked you about this. It is relevant medical history. Look into this and then google whatever it is and understand what it is so you won't be surprised when people try to talk to you about it.

2) You need to advocate for your scan to be read by a radiologist or a doctor and then for that radiologist or doctor to have a conversation with YOU about the results.

3) You should stop looking for bad faith signs in doctors trying to figure out your medical history. It would be a far worse sign if they showed no interest in why your previous pregnancy ended the way it did.

4) You need to confirm your current medical team has access to your prior office's records of your previous birth. When I moved states I had to bring a physical copy of my records with me (extensive due to a complicated birth).

A general note. You're about to push a baby out of your vagina. While uncomfortable and annoying there is nothing dangerous about a transvaginal ultrasound and PP fear mongering that it is 'creepy' that they would recommend one to get a good look at your cervix is really doing more harm than good. Instead of rejecting their supposition that you might have an incompetent cervix, figure out if you had one before or if your experience of your previous preterm birth is in line with symptoms other women have had when they had an incompetent cervix. You WANT to know if you have an IC because there are ways they can keep the baby in for longer if they know about it ahead of time.

Seriously, what you describe seems like a bunch of people talking over and around each other without all the information everyone needs to have an educated and informed opinion. You, the tech, your OB in a different office who may or may not have seen the results of your anatomy scan, everyone. Eliminate the confusion by finding the information everyone needs to proceed.

Did you miss the part when OP gave an update. She said her obgyn does not want her doing anymore transvaginal ultrasounds because she does not have a history of incompetent cervix.

Did you miss the part where she says she is unsure if her OB has the records of her previous birth and how no one in her current or past OB's office has discussed or explained what happened with her first preterm birth?

Based on information OP has provided it doesn't sound like current OB knows enough to know that.

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Was the doctor drunk too?

OP here. Well I do live in Florida now so maybe?
Anything is possible here. My "consult" as they called it lasted for 5 minutes in the ultrasound room.

You're the FL poster. You have like a 3 yr old (by now) DS. Live by the beach, posted in relationship forum about dh

I moved here a few months ago and unfortunately I do not live close to the beach! I wish!

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The tech may be diabetic. Leave her alone!

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OP what prompted the emergency c section? Did you labor?

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Anonymous wrote:If there’s another tech at that office, ask for her. Otherwise, it sounds bizarre but give her one more chance. If things are weird next time, just talk to your doctor about your concerns.

OP here. Hopefully I do not have to go back to this office. The doctor there ( who is not my obgyn) recommended that I do transvaginal ultrasounds. She said we can see if my obgyn is ok with this. She wanted me to consent to this treatment and start scheduling them every 2 weeks. This was all based on what I told the doctor about my previous premature birth. They did not have access to my records. I don't think I actually have incompetent cervix. This is the first time I have ever heard this.

You are literally a nutjob

OP here. I spoke to the nurse at my obgyn office this morning. She called me back this afternoon to say I do NOT have cervix problems. My doctor does NOT want me to do transvaginal ultrasounds. The one from yesterday was not necessary. I did meet with a high risk doctor at the office yesterday but my appointment was rushed. The doctor from yesterday did NOT talk to me about my ultrasound results.

Do NOT agree to transvaginal ultrasounds. I've had a lot of them because of my endometriosis and they're not comfortable. It's creepy they would suggest it for a history of preterm birth. My first was born at 32 weeks, and my high risk OB did not suggest TV for my second pregnancy.

I ended up leaving my high risk OB to go to a midwife practice because of other reasons, but you can leave that practice too and go to another OB.

OP here. Good to know. They were pressuring me to do these every 2 weeks from 18-24 week's. I even had to sign a paper saying I would not consent. I told them I wanted to run it by my obgyn first and figure out insurance costs. The ultrasound tech told me several times it was based on the fact that they thought I had an incompetent cervix. I did have 2 ultrasounds at this office yesterday. One was the anatomy scan and then a transvaginal ultrasound.

Listen OP I don't know you but it doesn't sound like you personally have a very good grip on your own medical history and that, simultaneously, you are prone to be suspicious of your medical care and the questions they ask. That said I also think that the fact that no doctor came in to talk to you about your scan is nuts. That is standard, someone should have told you everything looked normal or something like an incompetent cervix was present.

If you want to know what is right then you need to take some personal responsibility for your health and you need to figure out a few things:

1) You need to determine what doctor's believe was the cause of your first premature birth. It is a GOOD thing that the tech and doctors asked you about this. It is relevant medical history. Look into this and then google whatever it is and understand what it is so you won't be surprised when people try to talk to you about it.

2) You need to advocate for your scan to be read by a radiologist or a doctor and then for that radiologist or doctor to have a conversation with YOU about the results.

3) You should stop looking for bad faith signs in doctors trying to figure out your medical history. It would be a far worse sign if they showed no interest in why your previous pregnancy ended the way it did.

4) You need to confirm your current medical team has access to your prior office's records of your previous birth. When I moved states I had to bring a physical copy of my records with me (extensive due to a complicated birth).

A general note. You're about to push a baby out of your vagina. While uncomfortable and annoying there is nothing dangerous about a transvaginal ultrasound and PP fear mongering that it is 'creepy' that they would recommend one to get a good look at your cervix is really doing more harm than good. Instead of rejecting their supposition that you might have an incompetent cervix, figure out if you had one before or if your experience of your previous preterm birth is in line with symptoms other women have had when they had an incompetent cervix. You WANT to know if you have an IC because there are ways they can keep the baby in for longer if they know about it ahead of time.

Seriously, what you describe seems like a bunch of people talking over and around each other without all the information everyone needs to have an educated and informed opinion. You, the tech, your OB in a different office who may or may not have seen the results of your anatomy scan, everyone. Eliminate the confusion by finding the information everyone needs to proceed.

Did you miss the part when OP gave an update. She said her obgyn does not want her doing anymore transvaginal ultrasounds because she does not have a history of incompetent cervix.

Did you miss the part where she says she is unsure if her OB has the records of her previous birth and how no one in her current or past OB's office has discussed or explained what happened with her first preterm birth?

Based on information OP has provided it doesn't sound like current OB knows enough to know that.

Between your post and my response here OP clarified OB has the records. I still think its insane that she isn't asking why that happened and how to prevent it though and that she would be well served to ask some questions. The same questions the tech asked!