Would you buy on H Street?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:H St isn’t the Hill and Union Market isn’t H St.

H St is more the Hill than the Whole Foods in Navy Yard is. Obviously both are close enough to count as neighborhood amenities anyway.

Huh? The Whole Foods in SE is maybe a six minute walk from Capitol South and maybe three minutes from Capitol Hill Day School. It’s absolutely closer to the Hill than H St NE.

H St is great. There are a lot of wonderful things around there. It does not have more amenities than the heart of the Hill though, and trying to claim Union Market and NoMA is good evidence of that.

Most people consider H St the Hill and don’t consider South of the bridge the Hill. Check, e.g., the MOTH eligibility rules. It’s probably school zone related as I realize H is technically 2 blocks from the CHHD while the Whole Foods is not even one. It’s definitely the perception though, since H St can be zoned for a Hill ES and Navy Yard has its own separate ES.

Lol MOTH borders are pretty much Florida, the mall and the river

Yes the MOTH boundaries are insane.

Even most of Maury isn’t really in Capitol Hill though I understand that these days people claim it that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:H St isn’t the Hill and Union Market isn’t H St.

H St is more the Hill than the Whole Foods in Navy Yard is. Obviously both are close enough to count as neighborhood amenities anyway.

Huh? The Whole Foods in SE is maybe a six minute walk from Capitol South and maybe three minutes from Capitol Hill Day School. It’s absolutely closer to the Hill than H St NE.

H St is great. There are a lot of wonderful things around there. It does not have more amenities than the heart of the Hill though, and trying to claim Union Market and NoMA is good evidence of that.

Most people consider H St the Hill and don’t consider South of the bridge the Hill. Check, e.g., the MOTH eligibility rules. It’s probably school zone related as I realize H is technically 2 blocks from the CHHD while the Whole Foods is not even one. It’s definitely the perception though, since H St can be zoned for a Hill ES and Navy Yard has its own separate ES.

Lol MOTH borders are pretty much Florida, the mall and the river

Yes the MOTH boundaries are insane.

Even most of Maury isn’t really in Capitol Hill though I understand that these days people claim it that way.

What are the Hill boundaries to you? The historic zone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the good restaurants on H St? Maketto is great, but beyond that... we always look for places to go over there but all the places that used to be good (Granville Moore’s etc) have seen better days.

Fancy Radish is fantastic. The dumplings at Copycat are great. I’ve heard Stable is really good and it got a good review in the Post but I haven’t been yet. Toki Underground is still good. And there are new places all the time. I’m excited for the Burmese restaurant that is about to open where Sally’s Middle Name was. Though who am I kidding? We have kids and go out on H Street maybe twice a year, even though it’s a block away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure what the purpose of this argument. I live near H Street and I find many of the businesses on Barracks Row to feel sclerotic and stale in comparison. But this is a ridiculous pissing match for two reasons. First, the Eastern Market side of the Hill is probably 15-20% more expensive than H Street, with generally smaller houses and lots, and so not an option for many people. Secondly, either option is far superior to what many people have access to. I looked up some Walk Scores for point of reference:

- 600 H Street NE: 96
- 1300 H Street NE: 90
- 700 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 99
- 600 E Capitol St: 90
- 1200 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 95

So, the person in the hypothetical heart of the Eastern Market area is gonna brag about 3 whole points relative to a person on the Western half of H Street? I mean, go for it...

Well ... my kid goes to the #1 rated elementary school in DC, I can walk to the metro in 12 minutes, we have a park across the street, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life every time I cross the street, so I'm gonna brag, yes!

Well, your housing cost is 20% more so yes you get better schools. But I live by H st, 3 houses down from a very large park with multiple amenities and 12 minute walk to Union Station (access via back entrance on H St). Some on H St might have just a 5 minute walk to Union Station. I cross the street thousands of times and no issues of any concern about risking my life. And we have a huge backyard and a garage.

But really it’s not a similar comparison with such as big price difference.

I doubt there's much of a price differential now for your house zoned for LT (I assume?). Please be careful crossing H st.

From the post, I would guess JOW. Definitely still a price differential there. LT and Maury are about the same now; any Maury v LT bump is made up for my SH v EH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:H St isn’t the Hill and Union Market isn’t H St.

H St is more the Hill than the Whole Foods in Navy Yard is. Obviously both are close enough to count as neighborhood amenities anyway.

Huh? The Whole Foods in SE is maybe a six minute walk from Capitol South and maybe three minutes from Capitol Hill Day School. It’s absolutely closer to the Hill than H St NE.

H St is great. There are a lot of wonderful things around there. It does not have more amenities than the heart of the Hill though, and trying to claim Union Market and NoMA is good evidence of that.

Most people consider H St the Hill and don’t consider South of the bridge the Hill. Check, e.g., the MOTH eligibility rules. It’s probably school zone related as I realize H is technically 2 blocks from the CHHD while the Whole Foods is not even one. It’s definitely the perception though, since H St can be zoned for a Hill ES and Navy Yard has its own separate ES.

Lol MOTH borders are pretty much Florida, the mall and the river

Yes the MOTH boundaries are insane.

Even most of Maury isn’t really in Capitol Hill though I understand that these days people claim it that way.

. H St is actually way closer to the Hill then a huge chunk of Maury (e.g., 15th and East).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:H St isn’t the Hill and Union Market isn’t H St.

H St is more the Hill than the Whole Foods in Navy Yard is. Obviously both are close enough to count as neighborhood amenities anyway.

Huh? The Whole Foods in SE is maybe a six minute walk from Capitol South and maybe three minutes from Capitol Hill Day School. It’s absolutely closer to the Hill than H St NE.

H St is great. There are a lot of wonderful things around there. It does not have more amenities than the heart of the Hill though, and trying to claim Union Market and NoMA is good evidence of that.

Most people consider H St the Hill and don’t consider South of the bridge the Hill. Check, e.g., the MOTH eligibility rules. It’s probably school zone related as I realize H is technically 2 blocks from the CHHD while the Whole Foods is not even one. It’s definitely the perception though, since H St can be zoned for a Hill ES and Navy Yard has its own separate ES.

Lol MOTH borders are pretty much Florida, the mall and the river

Yes the MOTH boundaries are insane.

Even most of Maury isn’t really in Capitol Hill though I understand that these days people claim it that way.

. H St is actually way closer to the Hill then a huge chunk of Maury (e.g., 15th and East).

House side or senate side??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure what the purpose of this argument. I live near H Street and I find many of the businesses on Barracks Row to feel sclerotic and stale in comparison. But this is a ridiculous pissing match for two reasons. First, the Eastern Market side of the Hill is probably 15-20% more expensive than H Street, with generally smaller houses and lots, and so not an option for many people. Secondly, either option is far superior to what many people have access to. I looked up some Walk Scores for point of reference:

- 600 H Street NE: 96
- 1300 H Street NE: 90
- 700 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 99
- 600 E Capitol St: 90
- 1200 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 95

So, the person in the hypothetical heart of the Eastern Market area is gonna brag about 3 whole points relative to a person on the Western half of H Street? I mean, go for it...

Well ... my kid goes to the #1 rated elementary school in DC, I can walk to the metro in 12 minutes, we have a park across the street, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life every time I cross the street, so I'm gonna brag, yes!

Well, your housing cost is 20% more so yes you get better schools. But I live by H st, 3 houses down from a very large park with multiple amenities and 12 minute walk to Union Station (access via back entrance on H St). Some on H St might have just a 5 minute walk to Union Station. I cross the street thousands of times and no issues of any concern about risking my life. And we have a huge backyard and a garage.

But really it’s not a similar comparison with such as big price difference.

I doubt there's much of a price differential now for your house zoned for LT (I assume?). Please be careful crossing H st.

Nope, we are not in the LT zone. The LT zone is still significantly cheaper than further south in the Hill. BTW for 20% less and more house and yard, LT is a good magnet elementary with a viable middle school track to Stuart Hobson which now offers honors. Maury, Brent not much viable middle school track.

We are north of H st and actually 12 min walk to 2 Metro’s - Union Station and NOMA. Many people are closer and 5-10 min walk to both. Plus if you don’t want to walk to metro, hop on the trolley and it’s free. It’s a fun, nice ride and takes you right to the back of Union Station.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure what the purpose of this argument. I live near H Street and I find many of the businesses on Barracks Row to feel sclerotic and stale in comparison. But this is a ridiculous pissing match for two reasons. First, the Eastern Market side of the Hill is probably 15-20% more expensive than H Street, with generally smaller houses and lots, and so not an option for many people. Secondly, either option is far superior to what many people have access to. I looked up some Walk Scores for point of reference:

- 600 H Street NE: 96
- 1300 H Street NE: 90
- 700 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 99
- 600 E Capitol St: 90
- 1200 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 95

So, the person in the hypothetical heart of the Eastern Market area is gonna brag about 3 whole points relative to a person on the Western half of H Street? I mean, go for it...

Well ... my kid goes to the #1 rated elementary school in DC, I can walk to the metro in 12 minutes, we have a park across the street, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life every time I cross the street, so I'm gonna brag, yes!

Well, your housing cost is 20% more so yes you get better schools. But I live by H st, 3 houses down from a very large park with multiple amenities and 12 minute walk to Union Station (access via back entrance on H St). Some on H St might have just a 5 minute walk to Union Station. I cross the street thousands of times and no issues of any concern about risking my life. And we have a huge backyard and a garage.

But really it’s not a similar comparison with such as big price difference.

I doubt there's much of a price differential now for your house zoned for LT (I assume?). Please be careful crossing H st.

From the post, I would guess JOW. Definitely still a price differential there. LT and Maury are about the same now; any Maury v LT bump is made up for my SH v EH.

Maybe if you are talking way east for Maury zone. But comparison is Capital Hill/Eastern market to LT area. Still significant price difference and bigger house/yard/parking pad in LT than heart of hill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the good restaurants on H St? Maketto is great, but beyond that... we always look for places to go over there but all the places that used to be good (Granville Moore’s etc) have seen better days.

Fancy Radish is fantastic. The dumplings at Copycat are great. I’ve heard Stable is really good and it got a good review in the Post but I haven’t been yet. Toki Underground is still good. And there are new places all the time. I’m excited for the Burmese restaurant that is about to open where Sally’s Middle Name was. Though who am I kidding? We have kids and go out on H Street maybe twice a year, even though it’s a block away.

Besides above, I would add Sospeso (Mediterranean), Ethiopic (Ethiopian), Harvest (American), Sticky Rice (Asian Fusion), Fare Well (vegan), Le Grenier (French), and Indigo (Indian).

[Anonymous]

C’mon, Sticky Rice is awful...

Did Indigo move to H St?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure what the purpose of this argument. I live near H Street and I find many of the businesses on Barracks Row to feel sclerotic and stale in comparison. But this is a ridiculous pissing match for two reasons. First, the Eastern Market side of the Hill is probably 15-20% more expensive than H Street, with generally smaller houses and lots, and so not an option for many people. Secondly, either option is far superior to what many people have access to. I looked up some Walk Scores for point of reference:

- 600 H Street NE: 96
- 1300 H Street NE: 90
- 700 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 99
- 600 E Capitol St: 90
- 1200 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 95

So, the person in the hypothetical heart of the Eastern Market area is gonna brag about 3 whole points relative to a person on the Western half of H Street? I mean, go for it...

Well ... my kid goes to the #1 rated elementary school in DC, I can walk to the metro in 12 minutes, we have a park across the street, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life every time I cross the street, so I'm gonna brag, yes!

Well, your housing cost is 20% more so yes you get better schools. But I live by H st, 3 houses down from a very large park with multiple amenities and 12 minute walk to Union Station (access via back entrance on H St). Some on H St might have just a 5 minute walk to Union Station. I cross the street thousands of times and no issues of any concern about risking my life. And we have a huge backyard and a garage.

But really it’s not a similar comparison with such as big price difference.

I doubt there's much of a price differential now for your house zoned for LT (I assume?). Please be careful crossing H st.

Nope, we are not in the LT zone. The LT zone is still significantly cheaper than further south in the Hill. BTW for 20% less and more house and yard, LT is a good magnet elementary with a viable middle school track to Stuart Hobson which now offers honors. Maury, Brent not much viable middle school track.

We are north of H st and actually 12 min walk to 2 Metro’s - Union Station and NOMA. Many people are closer and 5-10 min walk to both. Plus if you don’t want to walk to metro, hop on the trolley and it’s free. It’s a fun, nice ride and takes you right to the back of Union Station.

Ok, so basically no viable school at all. That's what we pay the premium for. The trolly is absurd - you can walk faster than the trolly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure what the purpose of this argument. I live near H Street and I find many of the businesses on Barracks Row to feel sclerotic and stale in comparison. But this is a ridiculous pissing match for two reasons. First, the Eastern Market side of the Hill is probably 15-20% more expensive than H Street, with generally smaller houses and lots, and so not an option for many people. Secondly, either option is far superior to what many people have access to. I looked up some Walk Scores for point of reference:

- 600 H Street NE: 96
- 1300 H Street NE: 90
- 700 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 99
- 600 E Capitol St: 90
- 1200 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 95

So, the person in the hypothetical heart of the Eastern Market area is gonna brag about 3 whole points relative to a person on the Western half of H Street? I mean, go for it...

Well ... my kid goes to the #1 rated elementary school in DC, I can walk to the metro in 12 minutes, we have a park across the street, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life every time I cross the street, so I'm gonna brag, yes!

I'll grant you bigger, but are homes zoned for LT really that much cheaper these days? I haven't checked.

Well, your housing cost is 20% more so yes you get better schools. But I live by H st, 3 houses down from a very large park with multiple amenities and 12 minute walk to Union Station (access via back entrance on H St). Some on H St might have just a 5 minute walk to Union Station. I cross the street thousands of times and no issues of any concern about risking my life. And we have a huge backyard and a garage.

But really it’s not a similar comparison with such as big price difference.

I doubt there's much of a price differential now for your house zoned for LT (I assume?). Please be careful crossing H st.

From the post, I would guess JOW. Definitely still a price differential there. LT and Maury are about the same now; any Maury v LT bump is made up for my SH v EH.

Maybe if you are talking way east for Maury zone. But comparison is Capital Hill/Eastern market to LT area. Still significant price difference and bigger house/yard/parking pad in LT than heart of hill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:C’mon, Sticky Rice is awful...

Did Indigo move to H St?

To each it’s own. So take off 1 for your personal preference. We like the sushi. Indigo is not on H but come on, so houses in K NE you don’t consider part of the H St corridor? If not, then what neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really not sure what the purpose of this argument. I live near H Street and I find many of the businesses on Barracks Row to feel sclerotic and stale in comparison. But this is a ridiculous pissing match for two reasons. First, the Eastern Market side of the Hill is probably 15-20% more expensive than H Street, with generally smaller houses and lots, and so not an option for many people. Secondly, either option is far superior to what many people have access to. I looked up some Walk Scores for point of reference:

- 600 H Street NE: 96
- 1300 H Street NE: 90
- 700 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 99
- 600 E Capitol St: 90
- 1200 Pennsylvania Ave SE: 95

So, the person in the hypothetical heart of the Eastern Market area is gonna brag about 3 whole points relative to a person on the Western half of H Street? I mean, go for it...

Well ... my kid goes to the #1 rated elementary school in DC, I can walk to the metro in 12 minutes, we have a park across the street, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life every time I cross the street, so I'm gonna brag, yes!

Well, your housing cost is 20% more so yes you get better schools. But I live by H st, 3 houses down from a very large park with multiple amenities and 12 minute walk to Union Station (access via back entrance on H St). Some on H St might have just a 5 minute walk to Union Station. I cross the street thousands of times and no issues of any concern about risking my life. And we have a huge backyard and a garage.

But really it’s not a similar comparison with such as big price difference.

I doubt there's much of a price differential now for your house zoned for LT (I assume?). Please be careful crossing H st.

Nope, we are not in the LT zone. The LT zone is still significantly cheaper than further south in the Hill. BTW for 20% less and more house and yard, LT is a good magnet elementary with a viable middle school track to Stuart Hobson which now offers honors. Maury, Brent not much viable middle school track.

We are north of H st and actually 12 min walk to 2 Metro’s - Union Station and NOMA. Many people are closer and 5-10 min walk to both. Plus if you don’t want to walk to metro, hop on the trolley and it’s free. It’s a fun, nice ride and takes you right to the back of Union Station.

Ok, so basically no viable school at all. That's what we pay the premium for. The trolly is absurd - you can walk faster than the trolly.

I beg to differ as someone who has taken the trolley. If you catch it right when you get to the stop, it is quicker then the 12 minutes walking. Cuts time in 1/2.

Our child is in a highly regarded charter which has a viable middle and high school track which you don’t have so no problems there for us. Plus we can afford to go private should we change our mind, which is unlikely though. We will take the money saved and not pay your premium to pay for college in addition to getting more space, yard, and parking. There are many families like us who could afford the hill but chose H St. for many of the above reasons.

[Anonymous]

You definitely get more house and yard in H St and Noma (two different neighborhoods).

You get lots of amenities too.

Neighborhoods get too expensive, and then spread. Capitol Hill gentrification has spread toward H St and beyond. It seems like a stretch to claim to that H St has more/better options though. Good options, for sure, but not better.