Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 5

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Anonymous wrote:I wish all of the retired S. Ct. Justices would share their opinions on wherher Judge K has the temperament for the S. Ct. I would like to hear the opinion of people who have actually done the job. I also would like to develop a way for sitting S. Ct. Justices to, and it would need to be done in a way to ensure anonymity, provide their input to the Senate and/or President.

How did anonymity work out for Ford?

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Anonymous wrote:Serena Williams is being held to a higher standard that Judge Kavanaugh.

Geez, this is sad but true. I saw this and thought "ha, that's stupid"... but its true.

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Anonymous wrote:So... Kavanaugh deserved due process but HRC didn't.

Kavanaugh deserved due process, but even though the Central Park Five was exonerated as part of our due process, Trump still insists they are guilty.

Hm.. I see a pattern here.

Hey, at least people accused of being in the country illegally are afforded extensive due process and enjoy a presumption of innocence that the government must overcome before being deprived of their liberty or separated from their children.

So...illegal immigrants deserve due process but HRC, an American, doesn't?

I'm not a HRC fan, but the hypocrisy of Rs, especially male Trumpsters, on this issue (and others) is so blatantly obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:I love all these people who think they know how “professionals” respond to false allegations of moral turpitude, when they have no practical experience seeing people so accused.

Reminds me of when people though Amanda Knox was a sex murdress because she did a cartwheel when dealing with the death of her roommate. “That’s not how you act” they chanted, never for a moment reflecting on the basis for their suppositions about how one is to respond to a different situation.

I don’t know what the truth is for Kavanaugh or Ford.

I do know that you cannot divine any great insight from his anger after being accused. In either direction.

Some of us have lived through similar experiences, which we cannot describe in detail because we do not wish to be identified. We all behaved with grace under fire, because this is what upright people do, with jobs and reputation on the line. Sadly, unless it's the EXACT same accusation for the EXACT same position, you will refuse to believe this carries the same weight.

Too bad for you.

Even if what you say is true, I am not sure you can extrapolate from your N of 1.

I've been falsely accused in a very public way, and it made me ANGRY AS HELL.

Now, that doesn't mean I automatically conclude BK is innocent. Simply that very few people can relate to this situation, and postulate from how they imagine they would act. Like how they would act if their roommate was murdered in a foreign country. Foxy Knoxy.

Were you publically angry as well, or privately? If publically, that just means that you too are not qualified for a life time appointment on the Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Live look at Chevy Chase Club:

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=50s[/youtube]

Please repost this with a good link--this link is dead.

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Anonymous wrote:So... Kavanaugh deserved due process but HRC didn't.

Kavanaugh deserved due process, but even though the Central Park Five was exonerated as part of our due process, Trump still insists they are guilty.

Hm.. I see a pattern here.

Hey, at least people accused of being in the country illegally are afforded extensive due process and enjoy a presumption of innocence that the government must overcome before being deprived of their liberty or separated from their children.

Is Kavanaugh being deprived of of liberty or his children? No, he is just being interviewed for a promotion, and there is no due process right for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Serena Williams is being held to a higher standard that Judge Kavanaugh.

Geez, this is sad but true. I saw this and thought "ha, that's stupid"... but its true.

Women are always held to a higher standard, and minorities even more so. Look at our judicial system.

Look at how Rs treat Kavanaugh vs HRC. They crucified her, chanting "lock her up" without any due process. Kavanaugh? All he had to do was shed a few tears and get angry and it was, "oh, look, he seems so genuine..he must be telling the truth. It's that woman Ford who's lying" - with no due process.

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Anonymous wrote:If we truly believe the Supreme Court should be above politics and not subject to public whims, campaigning for the position should be disqualifying.

Up until now, it was

Good try but no. How about the three interviews RBG gave in July 2016, including with the NYT and CNN, disparaging Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:Ford’s lawyers did her no favors refusing to supply her therapy notes, polygraph tests etc.

She agreed to supply those to the FBI, not the Senate, which is selectively leaking information. FBI chose not to accept her offer.

Do you have a cite for this? People send things like this to the FBI all the time and it would be unusual for them not to accept.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing I don't understand is this. Surely we want the best possible people in leadership positions, not average people. A great man keeps his cool when all around him are losing them. So, the fact that you or I would become very emotional if accused of something horrible is not relevant, or just shows that we are not cut out to be a great leader.

Maybe I am an elitist, but I don't think average people should lead our government.

(and ya, the Clintons, one of whom is arguably not qualified to lead our country for other reasons, at least kept their cool when accused of organizing the rape of children and murdering Vince Foster. Makes me long for Obama. He always kept his cool and was a good man. He was accused of being born abroad on completely spurious grounds, but kept his cool. Not quite the same as rape, but still very frustrating. )

He was also accused of being a Muslim terrorist. Never sweated through his tan suit. Just sayin...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So... Kavanaugh deserved due process but HRC didn't.

Kavanaugh deserved due process, but even though the Central Park Five was exonerated as part of our due process, Trump still insists they are guilty.

Hm.. I see a pattern here.

Hey, at least people accused of being in the country illegally are afforded extensive due process and enjoy a presumption of innocence that the government must overcome before being deprived of their liberty or separated from their children.

So...illegal immigrants deserve due process but HRC, an American, doesn't?

I'm not a HRC fan, but the hypocrisy of Rs, especially male Trumpsters, on this issue (and others) is so blatantly obvious.

I was being sarcastic. People accused of being here illegally are detained and separated from their children without much process at all.

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Anonymous wrote:BK is obviously not suitable for the supreme court

The question is only.. how low will the senators go? Will they preserve the legitimacy of the supreme court or will they turn it into another partisan and untrustworthy branch of government?

Low. Very low. He will likely be confirmed. And we can all mourn the day he ruined the Supreme Court. Way to go Brett!

Here's the thing - if he were truly an upstanding, for the good-of-the-country, non-partisan guy, he would recognize that his appointment to the S.Ct. is going to undermine the institution, perhaps very significantly and for very long time, he will always have an asterisk next to his name just like Thomas (though I suppose, like Thomas, he figures he can just hang with his boot-licking Federalist society guys to make himself feel good), and his nomination is tearing this country apart. If he weren't out for anyone but himself, he would withdraw for those reasons. But, Exhibit A - Brett himself - establishes that he is only out for himself and to hell with the country.

Yes, this! It’s not just the Democrats calling for him to withdraw. It’s the National Council of Churches, 650+ law professors, editorial boards, colleagues of his, and those who until supported him. Plus a former SC Justice.

It is over 2300 law professors now, just FWIW.

Law professors are worth NADA. Bunch of liberal idiots most of whom have never practiced the discipline they teach -- UNLIKE medical professors who actually have to know how to practice the trade they teach.

And remember, at least some of these law professors were responsible for the instruction of Brett Kavanaugh. Liberals should at least have mixed feelings about the opinions of such professors.

If they can produce a Brett Kavanaugh, who also taught at Harvard, then they are not a bunch of liberal idiots who should be dismissed out of hand.

You can't have it both ways, Sparky. Either he's your poster boy for all that is good and decent or he is a product of liberal idiots. Get your talking points straight.

Produced BK? You don't know people like him. His brain is wired for law. He could have read it on his own from books.

Yup, none of us who went to Ivy League law schools have ever met a stable genius such as Brett.

[Anonymous]

OMG they have the FBI report in a SCF room. Nothing to see here!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ford’s lawyers did her no favors refusing to supply her therapy notes, polygraph tests etc.

She agreed to supply those to the FBI, not the Senate, which is selectively leaking information. FBI chose not to accept her offer.

Do you have a cite for this? People send things like this to the FBI all the time and it would be unusual for them not to accept.

In case you haven’t noticed, nothing about the reopend FBI investigation was business as usual. Find it yourself, her attorneys included the offer in some of their correspondence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I don't understand is this. Surely we want the best possible people in leadership positions, not average people. A great man keeps his cool when all around him are losing them. So, the fact that you or I would become very emotional if accused of something horrible is not relevant, or just shows that we are not cut out to be a great leader.

Maybe I am an elitist, but I don't think average people should lead our government.

(and ya, the Clintons, one of whom is arguably not qualified to lead our country for other reasons, at least kept their cool when accused of organizing the rape of children and murdering Vince Foster. Makes me long for Obama. He always kept his cool and was a good man. He was accused of being born abroad on completely spurious grounds, but kept his cool. Not quite the same as rape, but still very frustrating. )

He was also accused of being a Muslim terrorist. Never sweated through his tan suit. Just sayin...

"Barack Obama was born in Kenya, or maybe not, because his father is actually an American Communist. Also, he’s gay, and maybe he was married to his roommate, and his wedding ring proves that he’s a Muslim. And there’s something suspicious in his college records. Plus, he once almost got divorced from Michelle."

And, you know, stuff about FEMA death camps.