Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster and Henry agreed to give up building for Montessori. It’s easy to point the finger at Henry and parents in the boundaries but you are missing the mark and rewriting history to create villains.

That's not how it works. You don't get to "agree" to anything. APS decided to do this, with the backing of the SAWG, but there was never a promise that boundaries wouldn't change. You didn't and do not own Henry OR Fleet. These aren't yours to decide about.

Nobody else needs to create imaginary villains when one of your own goes on FB to talk about "social engineering," and denigrates other schools and communities of students within APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are literally six public schools closer to Columbia Forest than Drew Model School: Abingdon, Barcroft, Campbell, Carlin Springs, Claremont & Randolph. (For that matter, according to Google Maps, even Henry is closer at 2.2 miles away vice 2.5 miles to Drew Model!) So tell me why Columbia Forest kids should go to Drew, while neighborhood kids 7/10th a mile away will not?

Campbell and Claremont aren’t neighborhood schools. You could have had a decent argument there but instead you tanked your credibility by including them.

I know they aren't neighborhood schools - I know exactly which schools are lottery schools and which aren't. But why should my kids be denied the ability to attend any of seven schools closer to them geographically? Give us a choice....

[Anonymous]

Come on, guys. Let's keep it on topic and civil. I have plenty of thoughts about the Henry/Fleet community but the reality is that Central Arlington gets squeezed because North Arlington refuses to play ball on diversity because they want walkability, and South Arlington is demanding that Central Arlington share what little balance it has. Plus, presumably the wanting to keep a school community together is not all a cover story. These are their kids' friends and classmates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are literally six public schools closer to Columbia Forest than Drew Model School: Abingdon, Barcroft, Campbell, Carlin Springs, Claremont & Randolph. (For that matter, according to Google Maps, even Henry is closer at 2.2 miles away vice 2.5 miles to Drew Model!) So tell me why Columbia Forest kids should go to Drew, while neighborhood kids 7/10th a mile away will not?

Campbell and Claremont aren’t neighborhood schools. You could have had a decent argument there but instead you tanked your credibility by including them.

I know they aren't neighborhood schools - I know exactly which schools are lottery schools and which aren't. But why should my kids be denied the ability to attend any of seven schools closer to them geographically? Give us a choice....

I'm with you, CF poster. Drew poster here. Your point is that Drew is far enough away that you can get 7 other schools within a circle around your neighborhood, whether those schools are choice or not. Either proximity to schools matters or it doesn't. Either busing kids past one elem. to attend another is silly or it isn't. It can't be that way for one boundary process but not the next one. All we're asking for is a consistent approach that isn't an obvious giveaway for one school community over others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are literally six public schools closer to Columbia Forest than Drew Model School: Abingdon, Barcroft, Campbell, Carlin Springs, Claremont & Randolph. (For that matter, according to Google Maps, even Henry is closer at 2.2 miles away vice 2.5 miles to Drew Model!) So tell me why Columbia Forest kids should go to Drew, while neighborhood kids 7/10th a mile away will not?

Campbell and Claremont aren’t neighborhood schools. You could have had a decent argument there but instead you tanked your credibility by including them.

I know they aren't neighborhood schools - I know exactly which schools are lottery schools and which aren't. But why should my kids be denied the ability to attend any of seven schools closer to them geographically? Give us a choice....

First, proximity doesn't give you priority for choice schools, nor should it. That's a lousy argument. Second, how did we get from six to seven? What's the seventh school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are literally six public schools closer to Columbia Forest than Drew Model School: Abingdon, Barcroft, Campbell, Carlin Springs, Claremont & Randolph. (For that matter, according to Google Maps, even Henry is closer at 2.2 miles away vice 2.5 miles to Drew Model![i]) So tell me why Columbia Forest kids should go to Drew, while neighborhood kids 7/10th a mile away will not?

Campbell and Claremont aren’t neighborhood schools. You could have had a decent argument there but instead you tanked your credibility by including them.

I know they aren't neighborhood schools - I know exactly which schools are lottery schools and which aren't. But why should my kids be denied the ability to attend any of seven schools closer to them geographically? Give us a choice....

First, proximity doesn't give you priority for choice schools, nor should it. That's a lousy argument. Second, how did we get from six to seven? What's the seventh school?

Henry. The 7th school is Henry. It's in my original post above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster and Henry agreed to give up building for Montessori. It’s easy to point the finger at Henry and parents in the boundaries but you are missing the mark and rewriting history to create villains.

That's not how it works. You don't get to "agree" to anything. APS decided to do this, with the backing of the SAWG, but there was never a promise that boundaries wouldn't change. You didn't and do not own Henry OR Fleet. These aren't yours to decide about.

Nobody else needs to create imaginary villains when one of your own goes on FB to talk about "social engineering," and denigrates other schools and communities of students within APS.

I went back to that FB post and no Henry parent ever denigrated other schools or communities. For the record, the person who wrote that post doesn’t even have elementary school aged children, is Hispanic, and has mixed-race children. Please stop spreading lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm with you, CF poster. Drew poster here. Your point is that Drew is far enough away that you can get 7 other schools within a circle around your neighborhood, whether those schools are choice or not. Either proximity to schools matters or it doesn't. Either busing kids past one elem. to attend another is silly or it isn't. It can't be that way for one boundary process but not the next one. All we're asking for is a consistent approach that isn't an obvious giveaway for one school community over others.

I think its a little more complicated than that. The schools are not perfectly located in the middle of obvious zones. You can believe that proximity matters, and believe that 'busing past one school' is silly, but still end up doing it. In the current context- Abingdon is the closest school for a lot of kids- more than fit at Abingdon. For CF, the next closest schools is probably Randolph- but Radolph fills with its walkzone. So do you let CF bump out part of Fairlington and got to Abingdon? Or do you bus CF to Drew? I personally vote for the non walkable Fairlington to Drew, and I think it is the solution that best fits all of the boundary considerations, but I think reasonable people can disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster and Henry agreed to give up building for Montessori. It’s easy to point the finger at Henry and parents in the boundaries but you are missing the mark and rewriting history to create villains.

That's not how it works. You don't get to "agree" to anything. APS decided to do this, with the backing of the SAWG, but there was never a promise that boundaries wouldn't change. You didn't and do not own Henry OR Fleet. These aren't yours to decide about.

Nobody else needs to create imaginary villains when one of your own goes on FB to talk about "social engineering," and denigrates other schools and communities of students within APS.

I went back to that FB post and no Henry parent ever denigrated other schools or communities. For the record, the person who wrote that post doesn’t even have elementary school aged children, is Hispanic, and has mixed-race children. Please stop spreading lies.

He said he's Asian. And he lives S of the Pike and thinks he deserves to stay at Henry, because that's why he bought a house. I don't remember any other Henry parents telling him to stop. He claims to be part of your community, despite having no children there. I reject your position that the Henry boundary is untouchable, for any reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster and Henry agreed to give up building for Montessori. It’s easy to point the finger at Henry and parents in the boundaries but you are missing the mark and rewriting history to create villains.

That's not how it works. You don't get to "agree" to anything. APS decided to do this, with the backing of the SAWG, but there was never a promise that boundaries wouldn't change. You didn't and do not own Henry OR Fleet. These aren't yours to decide about.

Nobody else needs to create imaginary villains when one of your own goes on FB to talk about "social engineering," and denigrates other schools and communities of students within APS.

I went back to that FB post and no Henry parent ever denigrated other schools or communities. For the record, the person who wrote that post doesn’t even have elementary school aged children, is Hispanic, and has mixed-race children. Please stop spreading lies.

He said he's Asian. And he lives S of the Pike and thinks he deserves to stay at Henry, because that's why he bought a house. I don't remember any other Henry parents telling him to stop. He claims to be part of your community, despite having no children there. I reject your position that the Henry boundary is untouchable, for any reason.

That must have been PMs between you two, because nothing about what you said is on Facebook. How are Henry parents supposed to police this? Hate that one person of you want, but dont denigrate a whole community over it.

[Anonymous]

I see very thoughtful ideas expressed here. The people who need to hear them are at APS. Lisa Stengle's strategy group is taking public input through today. Please send her emails or use the survey tool if that works for you. It closes tonight!!!

[Anonymous]

"That must have been PMs between you two, because nothing about what you said is on Facebook. How are Henry parents supposed to police this? Hate that one person of you want, but dont denigrate a whole community over it."

There were no private messages, the poster is spewing false information. Parents with children set to attend Henry/ Fleet are allowed to be in on the conversation just as people advocating for Drew with no children in attendance at the neighborhood program or from other neighborhoods are allowed to advocate against the proposal. Preferring to attend Henry/ Fleet is not denigrating other schools and communities in APS. Of course if you need a villan we get it, you have been crystal clear that South of the Pike is it. What you haven't done is given any information that convinces MC or UMC families to be open to Drew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are literally six public schools closer to Columbia Forest than Drew Model School: Abingdon, Barcroft, Campbell, Carlin Springs, Claremont & Randolph. (For that matter, according to Google Maps, even Henry is closer at 2.2 miles away vice 2.5 miles to Drew Model![i]) So tell me why Columbia Forest kids should go to Drew, while neighborhood kids 7/10th a mile away will not?

Campbell and Claremont aren’t neighborhood schools. You could have had a decent argument there but instead you tanked your credibility by including them.

I know they aren't neighborhood schools - I know exactly which schools are lottery schools and which aren't. But why should my kids be denied the ability to attend any of seven schools closer to them geographically? Give us a choice....

First, proximity doesn't give you priority for choice schools, nor should it. That's a lousy argument. Second, how did we get from six to seven? What's the seventh school?

Henry. The 7th school is Henry. It's in my original post above.

And Henry will also be an option school to which you shouldn’t have priority unless you also support ATS becoming a North Arlington-only option (because proximity).

Look, I think the Drew borders are garbage, but making garbage arguments in response isn’t helpful. It just mkes it easier for the staff to dismiss you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster and Henry agreed to give up building for Montessori. It’s easy to point the finger at Henry and parents in the boundaries but you are missing the mark and rewriting history to create villains.

That's not how it works. You don't get to "agree" to anything. APS decided to do this, with the backing of the SAWG, but there was never a promise that boundaries wouldn't change. You didn't and do not own Henry OR Fleet. These aren't yours to decide about.

Nobody else needs to create imaginary villains when one of your own goes on FB to talk about "social engineering," and denigrates other schools and communities of students within APS.

I went back to that FB post and no Henry parent ever denigrated other schools or communities. For the record, the person who wrote that post doesn’t even have elementary school aged children, is Hispanic, and has mixed-race children. Please stop spreading lies.

He said he's Asian. And he lives S of the Pike and thinks he deserves to stay at Henry, because that's why he bought a house. I don't remember any other Henry parents telling him to stop. He claims to be part of your community, despite having no children there. I reject your position that the Henry boundary is untouchable, for any reason.

That must have been PMs between you two, because nothing about what you said is on Facebook. How are Henry parents supposed to police this? Hate that one person of you want, but dont denigrate a whole community over it.

DP. Maybe he’s deleted some of his comments since (I’m not inclined to dig through that mess again to check), but I remember reading the same things pp is citing.

[Anonymous]

No posts were deleted. That poster or posters are spewing falsehoods.