Families who have gone from public to private: what has been the biggest difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We went to from private to public because we are in a "good" district and we are putting them right back into private after this year.
Take your child for an independent assessment at a Kumon or Mathnasium and you will be shocked at the results.

Jeepers, why would a for-profit tutoring company have incentive to be anything but honestly with spendy upper middle class parents???

[Anonymous]

Seriously, these for-profit tutoring companies are in the business of selling fear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked.

Us too although my child did score 90’s in math because at the time her public did accelerate. But her grammar, vocabulary, reading comprehension was abysmal. She scored 10% on vocabulary. This was a straight A highest reading and spelling groups. Eye opening. Her first few papers were ripped to pieces. More teacher writing than her actual writing. So much feedback. Her public school papers had a grade and maybe 1-3 Mark-ups. No commentating either. It isn’t that the teachers are bad, but they just don’t have the time with 30 kids in 4-5 classes.

I could mark my kid's papers myself without paying $30k, and me no speaky English. How did you let it get so bad in first place?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked.

Us too although my child did score 90’s in math because at the time her public did accelerate. But her grammar, vocabulary, reading comprehension was abysmal. She scored 10% on vocabulary. This was a straight A highest reading and spelling groups. Eye opening. Her first few papers were ripped to pieces. More teacher writing than her actual writing. So much feedback. Her public school papers had a grade and maybe 1-3 Mark-ups. No commentating either. It isn’t that the teachers are bad, but they just don’t have the time with 30 kids in 4-5 classes.

+1

This is exactly how I feel about public school. My child attended Langley HS which is the 3rd best HS school in the state of VA behind TJ and Mclean. TJ is a much harder school but that is a discussion for another day. He was getting A's but at the end of the freshman year, it was an eye opening for me. His reading, writing and grammar was horrible. I am so glad that his mother saw this and put him into private school. It is costing us 43k/year and he is also getting B's and C's but I am very happy that he is actually learning something. He is also working with a tutor everyday and grading at private school is definitely much harder.

I can't blame teachers at public schools because they just don't have time with 30+ kids.

I definitely take private school over public school anytime,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, these for-profit tutoring companies are in the business of selling fear.

I love how we pick the most difficult diagnostics test and then scare the kid/mother into signing up. Same for LSAT. WOrks most of the time...

[Anonymous]

We found the attention on our child to be the big difference. If your child is a self starter who is bright and outgoing, public school can/will work- TBH at the high school level there are more class options in a good public school. In a private school , yes my kid can take an obscure course, via videoconferencing, and do an independent study.

For us, with a quiet, shy kid and parents not willing/able to be super involved in the school, private works. They focus on my kid and have helped develop confidence, self advocacy and intellectual curiosity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked.

Us too although my child did score 90’s in math because at the time her public did accelerate. But her grammar, vocabulary, reading comprehension was abysmal. She scored 10% on vocabulary. This was a straight A highest reading and spelling groups. Eye opening. Her first few papers were ripped to pieces. More teacher writing than her actual writing. So much feedback. Her public school papers had a grade and maybe 1-3 Mark-ups. No commentating either. It isn’t that the teachers are bad, but they just don’t have the time with 30 kids in 4-5 classes.

+1

This is exactly how I feel about public school. My child attended Langley HS which is the 3rd best HS school in the state of VA behind TJ and Mclean. TJ is a much harder school but that is a discussion for another day. He was getting A's but at the end of the freshman year, it was an eye opening for me. His reading, writing and grammar was horrible. I am so glad that his mother saw this and put him into private school. It is costing us 43k/year and he is also getting B's and C's but I am very happy that he is actually learning something. He is also working with a tutor everyday and grading at private school is definitely much harder.

I can't blame teachers at public schools because they just don't have time with 30+ kids.

I definitely take private school over public school anytime,

Why didn't you just get a tutor in public school if your kid was having trouble with writing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't you just get a tutor in public school if your kid was having trouble with writing?

Opportunity cost. I'm not PP, but there are only so many hours left in a day once you take out sleep and time at school. Why waste a precious hour of after school time (that can be spent on homework, extra-curriculars, fun with friends/family) with a tutor on subjects that can be taught more adequately during school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked.

Us too although my child did score 90’s in math because at the time her public did accelerate. But her grammar, vocabulary, reading comprehension was abysmal. She scored 10% on vocabulary. This was a straight A highest reading and spelling groups. Eye opening. Her first few papers were ripped to pieces. More teacher writing than her actual writing. So much feedback. Her public school papers had a grade and maybe 1-3 Mark-ups. No commentating either. It isn’t that the teachers are bad, but they just don’t have the time with 30 kids in 4-5 classes.

I could mark my kid's papers myself without paying $30k, and me no speaky English. How did you let it get so bad in first place?

You are so obnoxious. It is not my job to mark my child’s papers. My child went to a HGC in a MCPS which is the top 1-2% of kids in the county. There was nothing I was letting get so bad you twit. Straight A’s and your child is so smart. Every paper - A. Every test A. Supposedly thriving. Moved to private because I heard the horror stories of public middle school. She received a 10% on her placement vocal test. Teacher said all public schools bomb that because they don’t teach it. Her writing was terrible in their eyes and it took a year of solid B’s and high C’s t get her to realize she was coasting in public.

I will gladly pay the money for my child to get a education were she is truly learning and held accountable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked. Hi

Us too although my child did score 90’s in math because at the time her public did accelerate. But her grammar, vocabulary, reading comprehension was abysmal. She scored 10% on vocabulary. This was a straight A highest reading and spelling groups. Eye opening. Her first few papers were ripped to pieces. More teacher writing than her actual writing. So much feedback. Her public school papers had a grade and maybe 1-3 Mark-ups. No commentating either. It isn’t that the teachers are bad, but they just don’t have the time with 30 kids in 4-5 classes.

+1

This is exactly how I feel about public school. My child attended Langley HS which is the 3rd best HS school in the state of VA behind TJ and Mclean. TJ is a much harder school but that is a discussion for another day. He was getting A's but at the end of the freshman year, it was an eye opening for me. His reading, writing and grammar was horrible. I am so glad that his mother saw this and put him into private school. It is costing us 43k/year and he is also getting B's and C's but I am very happy that he is actually learning something. He is also working with a tutor everyday and grading at private school is definitely much harder.

I can't blame teachers at public schools because they just don't have time with 30+ kids.

I definitely take private school over public school anytime,

How did your child get into private school with such poor exam results?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked.

+1. Very well put. fyi, delusional parents are being conned by rampant grade inflation - 50% of all high school seniors have an A average GPA!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/

LOL. Delusional private schools parents indeed. I guess you missed this part

"Actually, they said, the upward creep is most pronounced in schools with large numbers of white, wealthy students. And its especially noticeable in private schools, where the rate of inflation was about three times higher than in public schools."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked. Hi

Us too although my child did score 90’s in math because at the time her public did accelerate. But her grammar, vocabulary, reading comprehension was abysmal. She scored 10% on vocabulary. This was a straight A highest reading and spelling groups. Eye opening. Her first few papers were ripped to pieces. More teacher writing than her actual writing. So much feedback. Her public school papers had a grade and maybe 1-3 Mark-ups. No commentating either. It isn’t that the teachers are bad, but they just don’t have the time with 30 kids in 4-5 classes.

+1

This is exactly how I feel about public school. My child attended Langley HS which is the 3rd best HS school in the state of VA behind TJ and Mclean. TJ is a much harder school but that is a discussion for another day. He was getting A's but at the end of the freshman year, it was an eye opening for me. His reading, writing and grammar was horrible. I am so glad that his mother saw this and put him into private school. It is costing us 43k/year and he is also getting B's and C's but I am very happy that he is actually learning something. He is also working with a tutor everyday and grading at private school is definitely much harder.

I can't blame teachers at public schools because they just don't have time with 30+ kids.

I definitely take private school over public school anytime,

How did your child get into private school with such poor exam results?

Because PP is a troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't you just get a tutor in public school if your kid was having trouble with writing?

Opportunity cost. I'm not PP, but there are only so many hours left in a day once you take out sleep and time at school. Why waste a precious hour of after school time (that can be spent on homework, extra-curriculars, fun with friends/family) with a tutor on subjects that can be taught more adequately during school?

You missed the part where PP switched to private AND got a daily tutor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did your child get into private school with such poor exam results?

Have you ever heard of Legacy, recruited athlete and big donors? That's how.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child learned actual content, not just reading strategies over and over and over again. He had social studies all year long as well as science. They didn't alternate like in public school. In science, they had to write up labs and then actually did them. He was taught actual grammar and received a grade for it. He was taught vocabulary and spelling finally counted in his writing. He was taught how to write and then his writing was critiqued and he was able to make changes to it before it was due. His teacher did this through writing conferences with each student and comments on Google classroom. He took a foreign language and it was a regular class. There was none of this ridiculous redoing of assignments and tests. A test or quiz was given and the date was known in advance. If you didn't study and did poorly, oh well. Do better next time. He teachers expected a lot more from him. He got straight As in public school and a year and a half later, still gets mostly Bs and Cs and I'm happy about it. Public school parents who think their child is doing well live in Fantasyland. Oh and he was in the highest group in math in public school (and got straight As) and he scored in the 70% percentile in basic math skills when he started private school. A tutor and myself are now catching him up on basic math since the Common Core crap math he learned is useless. Oh and the grading scale is harder.

Very similar experience. I was shocked.

+1. Very well put. fyi, delusional parents are being conned by rampant grade inflation - 50% of all high school seniors have an A average GPA!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/

LOL. Delusional private schools parents indeed. I guess you missed this part

"Actually, they said, the upward creep is most pronounced in schools with large numbers of white, wealthy students. And its especially noticeable in private schools, where the rate of inflation was about three times higher than in public schools."

Yes because that demographic has nightmare belligerent parents. Any teacher would just give out an A to avoid the parents.