College admissions and Blair high school courses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you've proven yourself to be a deceitful little shithead. First you claim you didn't besmirch me when you claim that I, an Economics PhD, do not know what a logit is. More examples can readily be found in the previous pages. Now you claim that I claimed that a magnet class was never was equivalent to a college level class. That is a ridiculous statement that is obviously false. If that were true, all incoming college students would start at the same math level.
Note well that I have never accused you of TJ-envy, just lunacy. See a doctor for appropriate medication.

Dear TJ poster (not sure who you think you’re talking to):

Here’s what you said at 8:10 this morning:

“I think it's time for a DCUM beatdown now. Your whole premise seems to be that the magnet math at Blair is so great that your kid will run out of undergraduate math courses, particularly if he goes to a liberal arts college.”

It does appear that you think a magnet class isn’t equivalent to a college class. This is the only logical conclusion from your assertion that you don’t believe magnet kids can test out of/skip college-level classes to the point they eventually run out of classes to take.

I think its quite clear that I used the expression "will run out of undergraduate math courses," which, of course, is not logically the same as saying a magnet class isn't equivalent to a college class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you've proven yourself to be a deceitful little shithead. First you claim you didn't besmirch me when you claim that I, an Economics PhD, do not know what a logit is. More examples can readily be found in the previous pages. Now you claim that I claimed that a magnet class was never was equivalent to a college level class. That is a ridiculous statement that is obviously false. If that were true, all incoming college students would start at the same math level.
Note well that I have never accused you of TJ-envy, just lunacy. See a doctor for appropriate medication.

Dear TJ poster (not sure who you think you’re talking to):

Here’s what you said at 8:10 this morning:

“I think it's time for a DCUM beatdown now. Your whole premise seems to be that the magnet math at Blair is so great that your kid will run out of undergraduate math courses, particularly if he goes to a liberal arts college.”

It does appear that you think a magnet class isn’t equivalent to a college class. This is the only logical conclusion from your assertion that you don’t believe magnet kids can test out of/skip college-level classes to the point they eventually run out of classes to take.

I think its quite clear that I used the expression "will run out of undergraduate math courses," which, of course, is not logically the same as saying a magnet class isn't equivalent to a college class.

Um no, the first follows directly from the second because there’s no way to skip the first-level courses unless you can convince the college you already did the work in high school. But I’ll let you have this because I’m joining others in hoping you’ll shut up already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when two econ majors argue.

Or one of the posters is an angry loon who thinks TJ—an excellent school—needs her to defend it against other magnets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So if Gujarati is the class a student takes after Stat 101 in your college, then the magnet kid would be able to test out of *two* classes at your college, not just one. And risk running out of classes to take. But that’s probably not the point you intended to make.

You seem deranged. How exactly did you make such a dumpster fire out of somebody’s simple statement about where regression came up in a Blair magnet class????

I think that the original simple statement was that DC learned linear regression starting in September in a Blair magnet class and it seemed equivalent to a graduate statistics class in the grad econ program at UPenn.

Mind you, you did not say your undergraduate econometrics class, but instead graduate level class. What time of the year that this happens is completely irrelevant. Perhaps you should not misquote yourself. It would make it much easier to follow the various twists and turns in your mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So if Gujarati is the class a student takes after Stat 101 in your college, then the magnet kid would be able to test out of *two* classes at your college, not just one. And risk running out of classes to take. But that’s probably not the point you intended to make.

You seem deranged. How exactly did you make such a dumpster fire out of somebody’s simple statement about where regression came up in a Blair magnet class????

I think that the original simple statement was that DC learned linear regression starting in September in a Blair magnet class and it seemed equivalent to a graduate statistics class in the grad econ program at UPenn.

Mind you, you did not say your undergraduate econometrics class, but instead graduate level class. What time of the year that this happens is completely irrelevant. Perhaps you should not misquote yourself. It would make it much easier to follow the various twists and turns in your mind.

Who do you think you’re talking to? That wasn’t me. It’s amazing how you took a statement comparing a Blair magnet class to a graduate class, and called that pp a liar to support your contention that no Blair class is comparable to any college-level class. This fails all tests of basic logic.

For the love of God, can you let it drop already?

[Anonymous]

Can I just say the whole notion of a "graduate level" course as being exceptionally more rigorous than an undergrad course is flawed? Proud alum of Swarthmore who went onto Columbia for a master's, and the courses in the latter paled in comparison for rigor/robustness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So if Gujarati is the class a student takes after Stat 101 in your college, then the magnet kid would be able to test out of *two* classes at your college, not just one. And risk running out of classes to take. But that’s probably not the point you intended to make.

You seem deranged. How exactly did you make such a dumpster fire out of somebody’s simple statement about where regression came up in a Blair magnet class????

I think that the original simple statement was that DC learned linear regression starting in September in a Blair magnet class and it seemed equivalent to a graduate statistics class in the grad econ program at UPenn.

Mind you, you did not say your undergraduate econometrics class, but instead graduate level class. What time of the year that this happens is completely irrelevant. Perhaps you should not misquote yourself. It would make it much easier to follow the various twists and turns in your mind.

If the Blair magnet class is as good as a graduate class, then it follows that it’s as good as an undergraduate class, too. I’m failing to see your issue with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I just say the whole notion of a "graduate level" course as being exceptionally more rigorous than an undergrad course is flawed? Proud alum of Swarthmore who went onto Columbia for a master's, and the courses in the latter paled in comparison for rigor/robustness.

Depends on the program and the grad school. For example, there are two public policy masters programs at Columbia, and one is easy and the other is hard. DC did undergrad at Columbia, took a class or two at the “easy” program” and thought it was indeed really easy. DC’s friend who did engineering as an undergrad at Columbia is now doing a masters in engineering there, and the masters program is actually harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:.
Who do you think you’re talking to? That wasn’t me. It’s amazing how you took a statement comparing a Blair magnet class to a graduate class, and called that pp a liar to support your contention that no Blair class is comparable to any college-level class. This fails all tests of basic logic.

You people deserve to live in Maryland. Sorry about you kids having to deal with such imbecilic parents. Bye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.
Who do you think you’re talking to? That wasn’t me. It’s amazing how you took a statement comparing a Blair magnet class to a graduate class, and called that pp a liar to support your contention that no Blair class is comparable to any college-level class. This fails all tests of basic logic.

You people deserve to live in Maryland. Sorry about you kids having to deal with such imbecilic parents. Bye.

Your inferiority complex is still showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.
Who do you think you’re talking to? That wasn’t me. It’s amazing how you took a statement comparing a Blair magnet class to a graduate class, and called that pp a liar to support your contention that no Blair class is comparable to any college-level class. This fails all tests of basic logic.

You people deserve to live in Maryland. Sorry about you kids having to deal with such imbecilic parents. Bye.

Your inferiority complex is still showing.

+1. Or inadequate medications, I can’t figure out which.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And since you ragged me for saying logit rather than the pretentious logistic regression, I say that you must be a psychiatrist since only they say ANOVA rather than analysis of variance.
If we are insisting on pretense, I insist that you address me as Dr. Anonymous.

No dog in this fight. But you don’t “do a logit.” Nobody says this. The logit is the inverse of the function. You “do a logit or probit analysis” or a “logit regression.” People who are not psychiatrists or social scientists (I’m one) actually do say “logit regression” without appearing pretentious. You might “run a logit or probit model.”

That was fun....

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure why I am jumping into this crazy thread but I don't understand the OP's original question.

I have no idea if Blair's magnet classes are college level or not. My guess is that some are and some aren't.
Even then, I think OP is missing the forest for the trees. Unless her child goes to a small isolated liberal arts college that is not known for a strong math dept., there is no way they would run out of options for advanced classes. Even if his Blair classes are approaching college level material, it may still be wise to repeat some of the more esoteric classes that require a lot of abstract thinking. The Blair content may be similar to college but the Blair HS teacher is not a college professor and the students at Blair are not mature college students so class discussion, projects, and tangents that the class may veer off into will be quite different. Even if you start running out of classes, you have so many options to address that - independent study, graduate level classes where available, online math classes through college consortium, classes at other colleges and universities that are nearby, junior year abroad and take math in Europe or somewhere else or take a break from math, take Comp Sci and/or Engineering classes, double major in something else like Physics or a foreign language, the possibilities are endless. My advice to OP is to think creatively and don't pigeonhole your kid into a small box. Even if your child wants to go on to do a math PhD which he really cannot know right now and may well be mistaken if he is thinking in HS that he wants to do it, some of the most successful researchers are the ones who have strong backgrounds in more than one field and do multidisciplinary research where they apply their math expertise to Biology or Physics or Linguistics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why I am jumping into this crazy thread but I don't understand the OP's original question.

I have no idea if Blair's magnet classes are college level or not. My guess is that some are and some aren't.
Even then, I think OP is missing the forest for the trees. Unless her child goes to a small isolated liberal arts college that is not known for a strong math dept., there is no way they would run out of options for advanced classes. Even if his Blair classes are approaching college level material, it may still be wise to repeat some of the more esoteric classes that require a lot of abstract thinking. The Blair content may be similar to college but the Blair HS teacher is not a college professor and the students at Blair are not mature college students so class discussion, projects, and tangents that the class may veer off into will be quite different. Even if you start running out of classes, you have so many options to address that - independent study, graduate level classes where available, online math classes through college consortium, classes at other colleges and universities that are nearby, junior year abroad and take math in Europe or somewhere else or take a break from math, take Comp Sci and/or Engineering classes, double major in something else like Physics or a foreign language, the possibilities are endless. My advice to OP is to think creatively and don't pigeonhole your kid into a small box. Even if your child wants to go on to do a math PhD which he really cannot know right now and may well be mistaken if he is thinking in HS that he wants to do it, some of the most successful researchers are the ones who have strong backgrounds in more than one field and do multidisciplinary research where they apply their math expertise to Biology or Physics or Linguistics.

This post makes sense to me
Blair parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.
Who do you think you’re talking to? That wasn’t me. It’s amazing how you took a statement comparing a Blair magnet class to a graduate class, and called that pp a liar to support your contention that no Blair class is comparable to any college-level class. This fails all tests of basic logic.

You people deserve to live in Maryland. Sorry about you kids having to deal with such imbecilic parents. Bye.

TJ parents not any better but, yeah, blair parents are real nuts