So are you willing to give up quality of education for diversity?

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You totally missed pp's point. Wanting the best for your kids will never be wrong. people get into this mindset that they have to just settle for bad schools because its the right thing to do or something. It doesn't make you a better person and it doesn't do any favors for your kids. Get a grip.


I have never met anybody who said, "I am going to force my children to go to bad schools and get a terrible education because I think that's the right thing to do!" Have you?

You're the one assuming that there's a trade-off -- that you can't get a good education at a diverse school. Other people don't make that assumption.
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Anonymous wrote:The reality is Kennedy was a good school. The housing stock around Kennedy was nice and still is. The Glenmont apartments always housed a mix of minoritied but you had a
Decent enough mix at Kennedy to have a decent school.

But around the mid 90s low an behold the metro came to glenmont and with it came the ghetto and now the apartments and surround area is undesirable. (Note: if you don't have kids it still has nice homes and a fairly safe place to live).

But back to Kenney and in the real world. Those who get the best education at the best schools have a track record of earning the best incomes so we don't have to live in "the ghetto". So we move to the best location.

Why would I ever send my kids to a Kennedy to be with more
Low income kids when I can send them to one of the top high schools in Potomac? Less diversity? Sure. Better education, you bet, better opportunities for success, yep. Better earning potential, yep. That's life, that's reality, and the most important thing is developing future earning power for a successful life.



because I'm not a fucking racist scared of poor or brown people


You totally missed pp's point. Wanting the best for your kids will never be wrong. people get into this mindset that they have to just settle for bad schools because its the right thing to do or something. It doesn't make you a better person and it doesn't do any favors for your kids. Get a grip.


we are not settling. i prefer not to have my kids in a 10 school. i don't want the pressure, i want some variety.
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Anonymous wrote:The reality is Kennedy was a good school. The housing stock around Kennedy was nice and still is. The Glenmont apartments always housed a mix of minoritied but you had a
Decent enough mix at Kennedy to have a decent school.

But around the mid 90s low an behold the metro came to glenmont and with it came the ghetto and now the apartments and surround area is undesirable. (Note: if you don't have kids it still has nice homes and a fairly safe place to live).

But back to Kenney and in the real world. Those who get the best education at the best schools have a track record of earning the best incomes so we don't have to live in "the ghetto". So we move to the best location.

Why would I ever send my kids to a Kennedy to be with more
Low income kids when I can send them to one of the top high schools in Potomac? Less diversity? Sure. Better education, you bet, better opportunities for success, yep. Better earning potential, yep. That's life, that's reality, and the most important thing is developing future earning power for a successful life.


Actually, research indicates that UMC kids perform just as well in racially and economically diverse schools as they do in homogeneous ones like Potomac. And bonus--they're more empathetic and less prejudiced!
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Anonymous wrote:We went through this debate.

Kind of ironically it was the spouse that went to a "snobby" high school that wanted to consider some place more diverse and the spouse that went to a "bad" school that wanted somewhere that fed into one of the snobby schools.

The one that insisted on living in an area with a school with a good reputation brought up this article about Kennedy in Montgomery County:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/12/11/kennedys-melting-pot-reaches-boiling-point/1bfcfbf4-0668-4875-947f-518e3620b809/?utm_term=.dd820cd207c5

Which if I recall correctly, talks about how Kennedy shifted over to a minority majority population, about how some people who wanted to stay for the diversity but then felt that the education was lacking, etc. And I might have it confused with something else (it's been a while since I read it) but think there were some issues about segregation of students in a special program and also the racial lines when one particular group tried to take charge of some things and the other group didn't want to follow. So I think is an example about how diversity didn't work too well. (just summing up the article and am not necessarily saying that it's my point of view)


Seems fairly obvious that not all "diverse" schools are created equal. There are better and not-so-great schools of every income and racial/ethnic composition, including "snobby" ones.
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Anonymous wrote:It may not be popular or PC or what ever the hell is in vouge right now, but I would never knowingly place my child in a low performing school for the sake of social diversity. I know a family that has done this and it, shall we say, is not going well.


my brother's child goes to a school where 60% of parents work at google. yes, the school is very "high performing". is that the kind of school that you would send your kids to?


Guaranteed it is incredibly ethnically diverse.


there are a lot of Indians and asians.

personally I would try to keep my child out of that school.


Gunn?
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My ideal school would be 25% indian, 25% jewish, 25% east asian (chinese/korean/japanese), 25% hispanic and/or black.

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Anonymous wrote:My ideal school would be 25% indian, 25% jewish, 25% east asian (chinese/korean/japanese), 25% hispanic and/or black.



There are Jews who are black. There are Jews who are Latino. There are Jews from India. There are Jews with Chinese/Korean/Japanese heritage. Which part of your quota scheme do these people fit into?
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Anonymous wrote:My ideal school would be 25% indian, 25% jewish, 25% east asian (chinese/korean/japanese), 25% hispanic and/or black.


Our HS has about 30% white, 26% Asian, 17% Black, 23% Hispanic; about 20% FARMS, and has IB. Pretty good mixture of diversity and academic challenge IMO.
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If the ratings are based purely on test scores, that tells you nothing about the quality of education.

I would leave a higher-rated school for a lower-rated one with significantly-smaller class sizes in a hot minute.
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I didn't read any responses - only the original question - and my answer is absolutely not.

As I zip up my flameproof suit, I will say that I actually don't care one bit how diverse or non-diverse my child's school is.

I grew up in pretty much zero diversity. There were no people of color at my high school that I can remember. Literally, no black, no latino, no asian, nothing. I didn't know anyone Jewish until I was out of college.

I don't think it scarred me. I love learning about other backgrounds and cultures and did so as an adult, rather than as a child.

I married a person of color and we have mixed-race/ethnic children. In their public elementary school, they were the diversity - it was overwhelmingly wealthy, white people. Fine with me. Their schools now are more diverse as they have gotten older.

I want them to have the best education and would never dream of pulling them out of a school due to lack of diversity, or searching for schools based solely on that.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read any responses - only the original question - and my answer is absolutely not.

As I zip up my flameproof suit, I will say that I actually don't care one bit how diverse or non-diverse my child's school is.

I grew up in pretty much zero diversity. There were no people of color at my high school that I can remember. Literally, no black, no latino, no asian, nothing. I didn't know anyone Jewish until I was out of college.

I don't think it scarred me. I love learning about other backgrounds and cultures and did so as an adult, rather than as a child.

I married a person of color and we have mixed-race/ethnic children. In their public elementary school, they were the diversity - it was overwhelmingly wealthy, white people. Fine with me. Their schools now are more diverse as they have gotten older.

I want them to have the best education and would never dream of pulling them out of a school due to lack of diversity, or searching for schools based solely on that.



But was it fine with them?
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False dichotomy. As stated, test scores reveal very little other than student SES. There are plenty of schools that offer diversity AND a great education for anyone willing to dig deeper than the reductive Great Schools rankings.
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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read any responses - only the original question - and my answer is absolutely not.

As I zip up my flameproof suit, I will say that I actually don't care one bit how diverse or non-diverse my child's school is.

I grew up in pretty much zero diversity. There were no people of color at my high school that I can remember. Literally, no black, no latino, no asian, nothing. I didn't know anyone Jewish until I was out of college.

I don't think it scarred me. I love learning about other backgrounds and cultures and did so as an adult, rather than as a child.

I married a person of color and we have mixed-race/ethnic children. In their public elementary school, they were the diversity - it was overwhelmingly wealthy, white people. Fine with me. Their schools now are more diverse as they have gotten older.

I want them to have the best education and would never dream of pulling them out of a school due to lack of diversity, or searching for schools based solely on that.



So how do you understand racism and explain to your children why our country treats its miniritues so badly?
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So how do you understand racism and explain to your children why our country treats its miniritues so badly?

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The most white guilt DCUM thing ever right here folks and a perfect example of why this site and the limousine liberals that populate it are so divorced from reality

Our country treats its minorities badly what a load of bs

2017 idiots

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is Kennedy was a good school. The housing stock around Kennedy was nice and still is. The Glenmont apartments always housed a mix of minoritied but you had a
Decent enough mix at Kennedy to have a decent school.

But around the mid 90s low an behold the metro came to glenmont and with it came the ghetto and now the apartments and surround area is undesirable. (Note: if you don't have kids it still has nice homes and a fairly safe place to live).

But back to Kenney and in the real world. Those who get the best education at the best schools have a track record of earning the best incomes so we don't have to live in "the ghetto". So we move to the best location.

Why would I ever send my kids to a Kennedy to be with more
Low income kids when I can send them to one of the top high schools in Potomac? Less diversity? Sure. Better education, you bet, better opportunities for success, yep. Better earning potential, yep. That's life, that's reality, and the most important thing is developing future earning power for a successful life.







Really, THE most important thing is developing successful earning power? You can't think of anything in a child's development that might be more important than that?
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