Attn Maury parents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People will not invest. You are delusional.

Why so small minded an apocalyptic? Geez. Just look how excited people were about opening up Van Ness. I'm not sure that a Maury/Miner cluster would be all that different. It's frankly a very unattractive and close minded attitude. And anyway, I think a large percentage of our neighbors will end up going; it's not like we can pick up and move like that.

Can mess has less than 100 kids enrolled. It's part of the reason why there's no money for Maury. I would not call it a success. In fact it just shows you what a neighborhood can accomplish if they complain enough

Also we'll see where Van Ness is next year after the first in-bounds for Brent class returns to Brent for K.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People will not invest. You are delusional.

Why so small minded an apocalyptic? Geez. Just look how excited people were about opening up Van Ness. I'm not sure that a Maury/Miner cluster would be all that different. It's frankly a very unattractive and close minded attitude. And anyway, I think a large percentage of our neighbors will end up going; it's not like we can pick up and move like that.

Can mess has less than 100 kids enrolled. It's part of the reason why there's no money for Maury. I would not call it a success. In fact it just shows you what a neighborhood can accomplish if they complain enough

Also we'll see where Van Ness is next year after the first in-bounds for Brent class returns to Brent for K.

There was already a class in bound for Brent that returned for K this year. It really wasn't that many students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish someone would run the ## and figure out how many IB students are not attending Miner. If the whole neighborhood just enrolls in a Maury/Miner cluster, then we'll have a great, diverse, urban school. People should not be so scared of change. At the same time I think if this is DCPS's solution they need to sweeten the pot somehow, perhaps with a dual language program or a Reggio ECE program.

If it's such a fantastic idea why would they need to sweeten the deal

Because people are scared of the unknown, and any incentive to get them to walk in the door is a good thing.

Please, this is our neighborhood school we're talking about. Let's not make this about scoring cheap points. The fact is that a cluster could work very well if people put aside their fears and their need to control everything.

That won't happen. Look at Watkins. A large OOB population is going to keep in-bounds families away. The reason Brent and Maury flipped is in large part because of their small size, so they didn't need a lot of buy in to create a majority IB school. By creating a Maury/Minor mega-school all you're doing is screwing in-bounds Maury families.

For the record I'm an IB Maury family and I don't think in these terms. I don't think I have a vested right in my school, and I don't think sharing resources with another neighborhood school is being "screwed." If my neighbors are so dog in the manger that they'll refuse to enroll ... well who's screwing whom?

Collectivism at its finest. You must pay into the community school comrade but no of course we cannot guarantee you will get to enjoy it, it belongs to the community you see

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

I love you. Bravo.

Future Miner parent who would love me some Maury parents.

Not at all. My kids have already gone mostly through the Cluster, IB and one already to Walls. Plus, I have far, far higher property values than either of those catchments; probably double.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

I love you. Bravo.

Future Miner parent who would love me some Maury parents.

Not at all. My kids have already gone mostly through the Cluster, IB and one already to Walls. Plus, I have far, far higher property values than either of those catchments; probably double.

Since Maury's boundary includes Lincoln Park and the surrounding homes, I'm going to go ahead and call BS on your property being worth double those. But hey good on you for finally recognizing the importance of property values as it relates to school options!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

I love you. Bravo.

Future Miner parent who would love me some Maury parents.

Yes, as a fellow Miner parent I agree, but only Maury parents that support real diversity.

With some of these comments I know why Trump won and it wasn't because of the Miner parents and their friends and family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

I love you. Bravo.

Future Miner parent who would love me some Maury parents.

Yes, as a fellow Miner parent I agree, but only Maury parents that support real diversity.

With some of these comments I know why Trump won and it wasn't because of the Miner parents and their friends and family.

Yeah I'm sure Maury was responsible for Trump's 4% of the vote in DC ... maybe instead what you're discovering is that even progressive minded people do not support poorly designed experiments to merge schools when the real solution is a few extra bucks in the capital budget

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People will not invest. You are delusional.

Why so small minded an apocalyptic? Geez. Just look how excited people were about opening up Van Ness. I'm not sure that a Maury/Miner cluster would be all that different. It's frankly a very unattractive and close minded attitude. And anyway, I think a large percentage of our neighbors will end up going; it's not like we can pick up and move like that.

It's easy to love PreK - it's like free daycare. (That's because it's free daycare.) Even the worst DCPS (which is most, according to test scores) are overflowing with applicants for PreK.

In my fashionable, outstandingly trendy, practically unaffordable neighborhood, there is only one DCPS in walking distance (the others were closed a few years back). Singles and young parents love it here. Once they reach school-age, anxiety sets in. The local DCPS is okay for pre-school, but if we can't lottery into a good charter, we move WEST. I know more than one family who rented out their cool and large rowhouse in Ward 5 to cram into something tiny but West of the Park.

Good luck, Maury parents. it's an uphill battle to improve a school. You succeeded with Maury, and now you're going to be expected to do it with Miner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish someone would run the ## and figure out how many IB students are not attending Miner. If the whole neighborhood just enrolls in a Maury/Miner cluster, then we'll have a great, diverse, urban school. People should not be so scared of change. At the same time I think if this is DCPS's solution they need to sweeten the pot somehow, perhaps with a dual language program or a Reggio ECE program.

If it's such a fantastic idea why would they need to sweeten the deal

Because people are scared of the unknown, and any incentive to get them to walk in the door is a good thing.

Please, this is our neighborhood school we're talking about. Let's not make this about scoring cheap points. The fact is that a cluster could work very well if people put aside their fears and their need to control everything.

That won't happen. Look at Watkins. A large OOB population is going to keep in-bounds families away. The reason Brent and Maury flipped is in large part because of their small size, so they didn't need a lot of buy in to create a majority IB school. By creating a Maury/Minor mega-school all you're doing is screwing in-bounds Maury families.

For the record I'm an IB Maury family and I don't think in these terms. I don't think I have a vested right in my school, and I don't think sharing resources with another neighborhood school is being "screwed." If my neighbors are so dog in the manger that they'll refuse to enroll ... well who's screwing whom?

Collectivism at its finest. You must pay into the community school comrade but no of course we cannot guarantee you will get to enjoy it, it belongs to the community you see

ummm yes, it's a public school? I don't love the way this is being introduced, but it's a public school. nobody owns it.

[Anonymous]

God I hate Charles "Useless" Allen.

More 7-11s, meth clinics, and crime. And of course you had to ruin our good schools too. What a winner. When that idiot runs for reelection i will be happy to post on Moth every experience I've had with him and his useless staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People will not invest. You are delusional.

Why so small minded an apocalyptic? Geez. Just look how excited people were about opening up Van Ness. I'm not sure that a Maury/Miner cluster would be all that different. It's frankly a very unattractive and close minded attitude. And anyway, I think a large percentage of our neighbors will end up going; it's not like we can pick up and move like that.

It's easy to love PreK - it's like free daycare. (That's because it's free daycare.) Even the worst DCPS (which is most, according to test scores) are overflowing with applicants for PreK.

In my fashionable, outstandingly trendy, practically unaffordable neighborhood, there is only one DCPS in walking distance (the others were closed a few years back). Singles and young parents love it here. Once they reach school-age, anxiety sets in. The local DCPS is okay for pre-school, but if we can't lottery into a good charter, we move WEST. I know more than one family who rented out their cool and large rowhouse in Ward 5 to cram into something tiny but West of the Park.

Good luck, Maury parents. it's an uphill battle to improve a school. You succeeded with Maury, and now you're going to be expected to do it with Miner.

It's fine. We're all in this together. We all enjoy living on the Hill and we can stay here as long as nobody panics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish someone would run the ## and figure out how many IB students are not attending Miner. If the whole neighborhood just enrolls in a Maury/Miner cluster, then we'll have a great, diverse, urban school. People should not be so scared of change. At the same time I think if this is DCPS's solution they need to sweeten the pot somehow, perhaps with a dual language program or a Reggio ECE program.

If it's such a fantastic idea why would they need to sweeten the deal

Because people are scared of the unknown, and any incentive to get them to walk in the door is a good thing.

Please, this is our neighborhood school we're talking about. Let's not make this about scoring cheap points. The fact is that a cluster could work very well if people put aside their fears and their need to control everything.

That won't happen. Look at Watkins. A large OOB population is going to keep in-bounds families away. The reason Brent and Maury flipped is in large part because of their small size, so they didn't need a lot of buy in to create a majority IB school. By creating a Maury/Minor mega-school all you're doing is screwing in-bounds Maury families.

For the record I'm an IB Maury family and I don't think in these terms. I don't think I have a vested right in my school, and I don't think sharing resources with another neighborhood school is being "screwed." If my neighbors are so dog in the manger that they'll refuse to enroll ... well who's screwing whom?

Collectivism at its finest. You must pay into the community school comrade but no of course we cannot guarantee you will get to enjoy it, it belongs to the community you see

ummm yes, it's a public school? I don't love the way this is being introduced, but it's a public school. nobody owns it.

I believe the point being made is that when parents invest time, money and energy into their neighborhood school, they develop an expectation that they will continue to be able to send their kids (and siblings) there. When you talk about redrawing boundaries or consolidating schools, it puts that at risk. No one owns the school. But neighborhood residents have a reasonable expectation that a fully-enrolled, successful school should remain a stable option for them to send their kids to. It's why many people purchased the homes that they did.

Imagine a loyal tenant that pays his rent on time for years and years. If the landlord decided to change the terms of the lease without warning, or evict him, everyone on these boards would leap to the defense of the tenant and trash the landlord. But when it comes to schools, everyone here has so much pent-up aggression, you willfully ignore the fact that Maury parents have a legitimate gripe with the poor planning, the half-baked idea to combine schools, and the awful way it's been communicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

I love you. Bravo.

Future Miner parent who would love me some Maury parents.

Yes, as a fellow Miner parent I agree, but only Maury parents that support real diversity.

With some of these comments I know why Trump won and it wasn't because of the Miner parents and their friends and family.

Yeah I'm sure Maury was responsible for Trump's 4% of the vote in DC ... maybe instead what you're discovering is that even progressive minded people do not support poorly designed experiments to merge schools when the real solution is a few extra bucks in the capital budget

What one discovers is the lack of concern with policies that continue to support the more privileged class in our society with no regard for history and disparate impact. Implicit bias is an issue all progressives should be honest about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

I love you. Bravo.

Future Miner parent who would love me some Maury parents.

Yes, as a fellow Miner parent I agree, but only Maury parents that support real diversity.

With some of these comments I know why Trump won and it wasn't because of the Miner parents and their friends and family.

Yeah I'm sure Maury was responsible for Trump's 4% of the vote in DC ... maybe instead what you're discovering is that even progressive minded people do not support poorly designed experiments to merge schools when the real solution is a few extra bucks in the capital budget

What one discovers is the lack of concern with policies that continue to support the more privileged class in our society with no regard for history and disparate impact. Implicit bias is an issue all progressives should be honest about.

Yeah uhh how about I do what's best for my family instead. Try brainwashing someone else with that nonsense

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Anonymous wrote:I wish someone would run the ## and figure out how many IB students are not attending Miner. If the whole neighborhood just enrolls in a Maury/Miner cluster, then we'll have a great, diverse, urban school. People should not be so scared of change. At the same time I think if this is DCPS's solution they need to sweeten the pot somehow, perhaps with a dual language program or a Reggio ECE program.

If it's such a fantastic idea why would they need to sweeten the deal

Because people are scared of the unknown, and any incentive to get them to walk in the door is a good thing.

Please, this is our neighborhood school we're talking about. Let's not make this about scoring cheap points. The fact is that a cluster could work very well if people put aside their fears and their need to control everything.

That won't happen. Look at Watkins. A large OOB population is going to keep in-bounds families away. The reason Brent and Maury flipped is in large part because of their small size, so they didn't need a lot of buy in to create a majority IB school. By creating a Maury/Minor mega-school all you're doing is screwing in-bounds Maury families.

For the record I'm an IB Maury family and I don't think in these terms. I don't think I have a vested right in my school, and I don't think sharing resources with another neighborhood school is being "screwed." If my neighbors are so dog in the manger that they'll refuse to enroll ... well who's screwing whom?

Collectivism at its finest. You must pay into the community school comrade but no of course we cannot guarantee you will get to enjoy it, it belongs to the community you see

ummm yes, it's a public school? I don't love the way this is being introduced, but it's a public school. nobody owns it.

I believe the point being made is that when parents invest time, money and energy into their neighborhood school, they develop an expectation that they will continue to be able to send their kids (and siblings) there. When you talk about redrawing boundaries or consolidating schools, it puts that at risk. No one owns the school. But neighborhood residents have a reasonable expectation that a fully-enrolled, successful school should remain a stable option for them to send their kids to. It's why many people purchased the homes that they did.

Imagine a loyal tenant that pays his rent on time for years and years. If the landlord decided to change the terms of the lease without warning, or evict him, everyone on these boards would leap to the defense of the tenant and trash the landlord. But when it comes to schools, everyone here has so much pent-up aggression, you willfully ignore the fact that Maury parents have a legitimate gripe with the poor planning, the half-baked idea to combine schools, and the awful way it's been communicated.

How is it half baked? Seriously, other than white parents not wanting to merge with poors and browns, what are the cons and pros to this proposal? Only half of students IB for Maury choose to attend there right?