Am I the only one who thinks Kate Middleton is anorexic?

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be Anorexic, but she is more than likely underweight, which is not healthy.

That's debatable. Sever studies indicate underweight people live longer than average sized.

You have it backwards...most studies show that Overweight people live longer than normal people.

Naah. Overwhelmingly low caloric intake is associated with longevity. However, where this gets messed up is when the person is ill and the nutrition declines- having some weight improves their longevity.

Low caloric intake has nothing to do with Overweight/underweight, that is a specialized diet. Get your studies straight and stop twisting the truth because there are people that are "Underweight" that do not follow that diet in anyway whatever. Link me a study that shows that underweight people live longer, because the most recent research shows that overweight outlive their lighter counterparts. You can argue that it doesn't make sense till you are blue in the face, but the data is what it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

Your brain could obviously use a little fat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No.

And she is aging so rapidly too, which I think has everything to do with her extremely low body fat. She looks about 40.

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She would look much better with a few added pounds.

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

Its your prerogative to find her boy unappealing. I personally think fat people and chubby people are uneappealing, but to each their own.

OTOH, Kate Middleton's body fat probably hovers around 15%, which is not unhealthy.

http://www.ruled.me/visually-estimate-body-fat-percentage/

The recommended range of body fat for woman that are athletes is ~ 15-25%. Kate is not an athlete or muscular she is just skinny, and for non athletes the normal range of fat is ~ 25-30%. I have no idea where you got the 15% is not unhealthy from, especially in someone that is not athletic, considering that below ~13% woman start to have medical complications. Low 20's is more what someone should aim for unless they are training/require it for other reasons.

This page has some good information on it. http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/

"A research paper by Gallagher et. al. in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000) came to the conclusion that certain low body fat ranges are “underfat”, which implies “unhealthy”. According to this research paper, men who are between 20-40 years old with under 8% body fat are considered “underfat”, whereas a “healthy” range is described as between 8-19%. For women in this same age group, any level under 21% is “underfat” and 21-33% is considered “healthy”."


I checked several sources they all recommend somewhere in the range of 20-30% for a healthy woman, not the 15 you suggested. The perpetuation of unhealthy stereotypes continues.

Essential body fat on a male is 3-5%; for a female it's 8-12%.

Sure, Kate Middleton isn't an Olympic athlete, but you can probably argue that she eats/works out like an athlete to maintain her shape and public image.

By all measures, she appears healthy. She birthed 2 beautiful children, she skis and scuba dives, she plays tennis, she hikes, etc.

She just happens to be skinny, which does not mean at all that she's unhealthy.

I have about 20% body fat, I train a lot, and I watch my diet 80% of the time. I also work 40 hours a week and have an ungodly commute. Given the resources Kate has, I know I can go to 15% body fat without any issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be Anorexic, but she is more than likely underweight, which is not healthy.

That's debatable. Sever studies indicate underweight people live longer than average sized.

You have it backwards...most studies show that Overweight people live longer than normal people.

Naah. Overwhelmingly low caloric intake is associated with longevity. However, where this gets messed up is when the person is ill and the nutrition declines- having some weight improves their longevity.

Low caloric intake has nothing to do with Overweight/underweight, that is a specialized diet. Get your studies straight and stop twisting the truth because there are people that are "Underweight" that do not follow that diet in anyway whatever. Link me a study that shows that underweight people live longer, because the most recent research shows that overweight outlive their lighter counterparts. You can argue that it doesn't make sense till you are blue in the face, but the data is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be Anorexic, but she is more than likely underweight, which is not healthy.

That's debatable. Sever studies indicate underweight people live longer than average sized.

You have it backwards...most studies show that Overweight people live longer than normal people.

Naah. Overwhelmingly low caloric intake is associated with longevity. However, where this gets messed up is when the person is ill and the nutrition declines- having some weight improves their longevity.

Low caloric intake has nothing to do with Overweight/underweight, that is a specialized diet. Get your studies straight and stop twisting the truth because there are people that are "Underweight" that do not follow that diet in anyway whatever. Link me a study that shows that underweight people live longer, because the most recent research shows that overweight outlive their lighter counterparts. You can argue that it doesn't make sense till you are blue in the face, but the data is what it is.

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not the PP, but here's some interesting info:


link: http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=697876


In the United States, the weight associated with the greatest longevity tends to be below the average weight of the population under consideration, if such weights are not associated with a history of significant medical impairment. Overweight persons tend to die sooner than average-weight persons, especially those who are overweight at younger ages. The effect of being overweight on mortality is delayed and may not be seen in short-term studies. Cigarette smoking is a potential confounder of the relationship between obesity and mortality. Studies on body weight, morbidity, and mortality must be interpreted with careful attention to the definitions of obesity or relative weight used, preexisting morbid conditions, the length of follow-up, and confounders in the analysis. The terminology of body weight standards should be defined more precisely and cited appropriately. An appropriate database relating body weight by sex, age, and possibly frame size to morbidity and mortality should be developed to permit the preparation of reference tables for defining the desirable range of body weight based on morbidity and mortality statistics.







http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=621903

Results: All-cause mortality was significantly increased in obese men (BMI, ?30 kg/m2; RR, 1.5; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.1-2.0) and in underweight men (BMI, <18.5 kg/m2; RR, 2.6; 95% CI, 1.8-3.9) but not in women. The increased risk in underweight men could be attributed to deaths within the first 5 years of follow-up and to lung cancer mortality among smokers. Coronary heart disease (CHD) mortality was about 3-fold higher among obese men and women. About 21% and 28% of CHD mortality in men and women, respectively, could be attributed to being overweight (BMI, ?25 kg/m2). The RR (but not the absolute risk) for CHD among obese men was still significant after adjustment for the presence of smoking, hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and diabetes mellitus at baseline, and it was more pronounced for CHD among nonsmokers than among smokers (RR, 7.1; 95% CI, 2.3-21.7; and RR, 2.7; 95% CI, 1.5-4.7, respectively).


Here's another article: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/016882279090150R
Severely underweight and overweight people do not live longer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She may not be Anorexic, but she is more than likely underweight, which is not healthy.

That's debatable. Sever studies indicate underweight people live longer than average sized.

You have it backwards...most studies show that Overweight people live longer than normal people.

Naah. Overwhelmingly low caloric intake is associated with longevity. However, where this gets messed up is when the person is ill and the nutrition declines- having some weight improves their longevity.

Low caloric intake has nothing to do with Overweight/underweight, that is a specialized diet. Get your studies straight and stop twisting the truth because there are people that are "Underweight" that do not follow that diet in anyway whatever. Link me a study that shows that underweight people live longer, because the most recent research shows that overweight outlive their lighter counterparts. You can argue that it doesn't make sense till you are blue in the face, but the data is what it is.

+1

not the PP, but here's some interesting info:


link: http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=697876


In the United States, the weight associated with the greatest longevity tends to be below the average weight of the population under consideration, if such weights are not associated with a history of significant medical impairment. Overweight persons tend to die sooner than average-weight persons, especially those who are overweight at younger ages. The effect of being overweight on mortality is delayed and may not be seen in short-term studies. Cigarette smoking is a potential confounder of the relationship between obesity and mortality. Studies on body weight, morbidity, and mortality must be interpreted with careful attention to the definitions of obesity or relative weight used, preexisting morbid conditions, the length of follow-up, and confounders in the analysis. The terminology of body weight standards should be defined more precisely and cited appropriately. An appropriate database relating body weight by sex, age, and possibly frame size to morbidity and mortality should be developed to permit the preparation of reference tables for defining the desirable range of body weight based on morbidity and mortality statistics.







http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=621903

Results: All-cause mortality was significantly increased in obese men (BMI, ?30 kg/m2; RR, 1.5; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.1-2.0) and in underweight men (BMI, <18.5 kg/m2; RR, 2.6; 95% CI, 1.8-3.9) but not in women. The increased risk in underweight men could be attributed to deaths within the first 5 years of follow-up and to lung cancer mortality among smokers. Coronary heart disease (CHD) mortality was about 3-fold higher among obese men and women. About 21% and 28% of CHD mortality in men and women, respectively, could be attributed to being overweight (BMI, ?25 kg/m2). The RR (but not the absolute risk) for CHD among obese men was still significant after adjustment for the presence of smoking, hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and diabetes mellitus at baseline, and it was more pronounced for CHD among nonsmokers than among smokers (RR, 7.1; 95% CI, 2.3-21.7; and RR, 2.7; 95% CI, 1.5-4.7, respectively).


Here's another article: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/016882279090150R
Severely underweight and overweight people do not live longer.

Those "studies" (I wouldn't classify assessment of a life insurance cohort a study) are from 1984, 1996 an 1990. I think the point of the more recent studies is that our understanding of the correlation between mortality and weight has not been accurate -- have you been able to find anything that addresses that?

[Anonymous]

I cannot imagine the pressure and scrutiny she's under. I would probably not want to eat either.

[Anonymous]

She does look way too thin for her size.



But then again, she has always been thin. She just lost a lot of muscles she had when she was an athlete.

[Anonymous]

Didn't Diana have an eating disorder as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn't Diana have an eating disorder as well?

Yes she did.

[Anonymous]

You guys are crazy. She has always been skinny

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Oh Lord, we've had this discussion already.

No, she is not anorexic. Anorexia is a rare and life-threatening mental illness. Not every thin person is anorexic.

Europeans are generally much thinner than Americans (not exactly hard!).

Some people find it hard to gain weight at certain points in their life - my mother is like this, and she eats quite normally.

She is probably very conscious of her image and has the means to perfect it - which again, in Europe, is a perfectly good one.

Haha, no. Kate is British, and the UK is in the throes of an obesity epidemic. Have you walked around outside in any British city in the past few years? The average British woman IS overweight. Kate is in no way typical of the what is average or standard on the high street in UK. Your comment might have been true a decade ago, but England has caught up in the obesity race.

My DH is British and we live in Europe. I have a few American friends who haven't been to Europe in over a decade who still keep insisting that the British are super thin, but this is no longer true. Kate is unusually, eye-catchingly skinny here as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

Its your prerogative to find her boy unappealing. I personally think fat people and chubby people are uneappealing, but to each their own.

OTOH, Kate Middleton's body fat probably hovers around 15%, which is not unhealthy.

http://www.ruled.me/visually-estimate-body-fat-percentage/

The recommended range of body fat for woman that are athletes is ~ 15-25%. Kate is not an athlete or muscular she is just skinny, and for non athletes the normal range of fat is ~ 25-30%. I have no idea where you got the 15% is not unhealthy from, especially in someone that is not athletic, considering that below ~13% woman start to have medical complications. Low 20's is more what someone should aim for unless they are training/require it for other reasons.

This page has some good information on it. http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/

"A research paper by Gallagher et. al. in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000) came to the conclusion that certain low body fat ranges are “underfat”, which implies “unhealthy”. According to this research paper, men who are between 20-40 years old with under 8% body fat are considered “underfat”, whereas a “healthy” range is described as between 8-19%. For women in this same age group, any level under 21% is “underfat” and 21-33% is considered “healthy”."


I checked several sources they all recommend somewhere in the range of 20-30% for a healthy woman, not the 15 you suggested. The perpetuation of unhealthy stereotypes continues.

Essential body fat on a male is 3-5%; for a female it's 8-12%.

Sure, Kate Middleton isn't an Olympic athlete, but you can probably argue that she eats/works out like an athlete to maintain her shape and public image.

By all measures, she appears healthy. She birthed 2 beautiful children, she skis and scuba dives, she plays tennis, she hikes, etc.

She just happens to be skinny, which does not mean at all that she's unhealthy.

I have about 20% body fat, I train a lot, and I watch my diet 80% of the time. I also work 40 hours a week and have an ungodly commute. Given the resources Kate has, I know I can go to 15% body fat without any issues.

8% body fat? On a woman? WHAT are you talking about? A woman would be literally dead with that body fat percentage.

You need to relearn your stats on healthiness levels, lady. Damn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

Its your prerogative to find her boy unappealing. I personally think fat people and chubby people are uneappealing, but to each their own.

OTOH, Kate Middleton's body fat probably hovers around 15%, which is not unhealthy.

http://www.ruled.me/visually-estimate-body-fat-percentage/

The recommended range of body fat for woman that are athletes is ~ 15-25%. Kate is not an athlete or muscular she is just skinny, and for non athletes the normal range of fat is ~ 25-30%. I have no idea where you got the 15% is not unhealthy from, especially in someone that is not athletic, considering that below ~13% woman start to have medical complications. Low 20's is more what someone should aim for unless they are training/require it for other reasons.

This page has some good information on it. http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/

"A research paper by Gallagher et. al. in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000) came to the conclusion that certain low body fat ranges are “underfat”, which implies “unhealthy”. According to this research paper, men who are between 20-40 years old with under 8% body fat are considered “underfat”, whereas a “healthy” range is described as between 8-19%. For women in this same age group, any level under 21% is “underfat” and 21-33% is considered “healthy”."


I checked several sources they all recommend somewhere in the range of 20-30% for a healthy woman, not the 15 you suggested. The perpetuation of unhealthy stereotypes continues.

Essential body fat on a male is 3-5%; for a female it's 8-12%.

Sure, Kate Middleton isn't an Olympic athlete, but you can probably argue that she eats/works out like an athlete to maintain her shape and public image.

By all measures, she appears healthy. She birthed 2 beautiful children, she skis and scuba dives, she plays tennis, she hikes, etc.

She just happens to be skinny, which does not mean at all that she's unhealthy.

I have about 20% body fat, I train a lot, and I watch my diet 80% of the time. I also work 40 hours a week and have an ungodly commute. Given the resources Kate has, I know I can go to 15% body fat without any issues.

Why are you mentioning essential fat? You realize that is how much fat you need before you start losing biological function correct? If you have 8% body fat that doesn't mean anything above 8-12% is healthy. Female body builders are typically in the 10-15% range, they are not healthy and in many cases not even fertile. There is a reason that basically any resource you find will say that a healthy female is somewhere in the range of 20-30%. Kate does not have the body of an athlete she is just skinny. Her muscle mass is, by appearance,very low compared to the type of people we are referring to as athletes, so I don't think the argument that she eats/works out like one is very true.

Here is an example of someone like yourself: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA53794

I don't know much about Dr. Weil but the number he quotes are consistent with every other study I've seen so far. I don't think you will find any professional that will say 15% is healthy for a woman.