Is the SWS waitlist moving for Pk3?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just an observation: There seems to be a divide on perspectives here, and elsewhere. There were clearly many, many battles fought over the "Cluster Schools". Those families that were involved are understandably entrenched and their perspectives are informed greatly by that. But for those of us who are only now entering ECE, we don't share that perspective. I don't think of SWS as anything other than a boundary-less DCPS school. And Peabody and Watkins are just one elementary school that happens to be in two buildings. Stuart Hobson isn't a "Cluster School" to me; it is the MS into which several ES (including Watkins) feed. It's interesting to me that Peabody/Watkins parents and posters with older kids lay claim to SH as if it was part of that school, instead of what it is now, a feeder school from area elementary schools.

Not a judgment. Not a shot at anyone. Just an observation.

It may be best for you not to spout when you aren't on top of the facts. Until a few years ago, only P/W fed to SH. Through the end of this year, P/W and SH share a Principal, share the PTA and LSAT, and essentially share a budget allocation from DCPS, because of the fungibility of the budgets across campuses. There is a lot more to SH being part of the Cluster than the feeder aspect. For over 20 years, nearing 30, the objective was to treat this as one Pk4-8th grade school, not simply as a feeder. It doesn't always align that way, but the model and objective differs substantially from a feeder model.

Your institutional know leg is hazy at best. While not "official" feeders (since feeder rights are in the newish side in DCPS) SH has always had a majority of its students come from outside Watkins. Even back before 2010 few kids from Watkins went to SH. Very few.


I don't know the exact history of the Cluster, but I bought my house IB for LT in 2002 and it has been IB for SH since I bought it. I checked what the feed was when we were looking and it was LT, SH, Dunbar at that point. With the redistributing ,only the Dunbar feed changed to Eastern. I believe JO Wilson has also always fed into SH, but I don't have first-hand knowledge of that. It's not really relavent to this thread, but I wanted to correct this misstatement by the PP.

This isn't true. Your HOUSE may have been inbounds for SH, but Ludlow Taylor nor JO Wilson were officially feeders ( i.e. all students there had rights to SH regardless of home address )until around 2010ish.

[Anonymous]

^ alright start your own thread PPs. So far off topic at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just an observation: There seems to be a divide on perspectives here, and elsewhere. There were clearly many, many battles fought over the "Cluster Schools". Those families that were involved are understandably entrenched and their perspectives are informed greatly by that. But for those of us who are only now entering ECE, we don't share that perspective. I don't think of SWS as anything other than a boundary-less DCPS school. And Peabody and Watkins are just one elementary school that happens to be in two buildings. Stuart Hobson isn't a "Cluster School" to me; it is the MS into which several ES (including Watkins) feed. It's interesting to me that Peabody/Watkins parents and posters with older kids lay claim to SH as if it was part of that school, instead of what it is now, a feeder school from area elementary schools.

Not a judgment. Not a shot at anyone. Just an observation.

It may be best for you not to spout when you aren't on top of the facts. Until a few years ago, only P/W fed to SH. Through the end of this year, P/W and SH share a Principal, share the PTA and LSAT, and essentially share a budget allocation from DCPS, because of the fungibility of the budgets across campuses. There is a lot more to SH being part of the Cluster than the feeder aspect. For over 20 years, nearing 30, the objective was to treat this as one Pk4-8th grade school, not simply as a feeder. It doesn't always align that way, but the model and objective differs substantially from a feeder model.

I don't know the exact history of the Cluster, but I bought my house IB for LT in 2002 and it has been IB for SH since I bought it. I checked what the feed was when we were looking and it was LT, SH, Dunbar at that point. With the redistributing ,only the Dunbar feed changed to Eastern. I believe JO Wilson has also always fed into SH, but I don't have first-hand knowledge of that. It's not really relavent to this thread, but I wanted to correct this misstatement by the PP.

This isn't true. Your HOUSE may have been inbounds for SH, but Ludlow Taylor nor JO Wilson were officially feeders ( i.e. all students there had rights to SH regardless of home address )until around 2010ish.

This is a distinction without a difference for everyone who lives IB for LT or JO Wilson. Our houses are, and always have been, IB for SH without having any relationship to the Cluster. We only had the right to send our kids to SH without entering the OOB lottery. SH has always had a bigger relationship to our neighborhood that it's status as part of the Cluster. It is our neighborhood middle school even though we don't have rights to Peabody or Watkins.

I see we have newbies here. The distinction between a school having FEEDER rights to a middle school versus an ADDRESS having rights to a middle school is huge. Just ask all the people who jockey for a 5th grade slot at particular OOB elementary school simply to have access to the middle school in the feeder pattern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just an observation: There seems to be a divide on perspectives here, and elsewhere. There were clearly many, many battles fought over the "Cluster Schools". Those families that were involved are understandably entrenched and their perspectives are informed greatly by that. But for those of us who are only now entering ECE, we don't share that perspective. I don't think of SWS as anything other than a boundary-less DCPS school. And Peabody and Watkins are just one elementary school that happens to be in two buildings. Stuart Hobson isn't a "Cluster School" to me; it is the MS into which several ES (including Watkins) feed. It's interesting to me that Peabody/Watkins parents and posters with older kids lay claim to SH as if it was part of that school, instead of what it is now, a feeder school from area elementary schools.

Not a judgment. Not a shot at anyone. Just an observation.

It may be best for you not to spout when you aren't on top of the facts. Until a few years ago, only P/W fed to SH. Through the end of this year, P/W and SH share a Principal, share the PTA and LSAT, and essentially share a budget allocation from DCPS, because of the fungibility of the budgets across campuses. There is a lot more to SH being part of the Cluster than the feeder aspect. For over 20 years, nearing 30, the objective was to treat this as one Pk4-8th grade school, not simply as a feeder. It doesn't always align that way, but the model and objective differs substantially from a feeder model.

I don't know the exact history of the Cluster, but I bought my house IB for LT in 2002 and it has been IB for SH since I bought it. I checked what the feed was when we were looking and it was LT, SH, Dunbar at that point. With the redistributing ,only the Dunbar feed changed to Eastern. I believe JO Wilson has also always fed into SH, but I don't have first-hand knowledge of that. It's not really relavent to this thread, but I wanted to correct this misstatement by the PP.

This isn't true. Your HOUSE may have been inbounds for SH, but Ludlow Taylor nor JO Wilson were officially feeders ( i.e. all students there had rights to SH regardless of home address )until around 2010ish.

This is a distinction without a difference for everyone who lives IB for LT or JO Wilson. Our houses are, and always have been, IB for SH without having any relationship to the Cluster. We only had the right to send our kids to SH without entering the OOB lottery. SH has always had a bigger relationship to our neighborhood that it's status as part of the Cluster. It is our neighborhood middle school even though we don't have rights to Peabody or Watkins.

I see we have newbies here. The distinction between a school having FEEDER rights to a middle school versus an ADDRESS having rights to a middle school is huge. Just ask all the people who jockey for a 5th grade slot at particular OOB elementary school simply to have access to the middle school in the feeder pattern.

Cannot but help notice you haven't addressed the actual issue at hand. Would you like ketchup with your red herring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just an observation: There seems to be a divide on perspectives here, and elsewhere. There were clearly many, many battles fought over the "Cluster Schools". Those families that were involved are understandably entrenched and their perspectives are informed greatly by that. But for those of us who are only now entering ECE, we don't share that perspective. I don't think of SWS as anything other than a boundary-less DCPS school. And Peabody and Watkins are just one elementary school that happens to be in two buildings. Stuart Hobson isn't a "Cluster School" to me; it is the MS into which several ES (including Watkins) feed. It's interesting to me that Peabody/Watkins parents and posters with older kids lay claim to SH as if it was part of that school, instead of what it is now, a feeder school from area elementary schools.

Not a judgment. Not a shot at anyone. Just an observation.

It may be best for you not to spout when you aren't on top of the facts. Until a few years ago, only P/W fed to SH. Through the end of this year, P/W and SH share a Principal, share the PTA and LSAT, and essentially share a budget allocation from DCPS, because of the fungibility of the budgets across campuses. There is a lot more to SH being part of the Cluster than the feeder aspect. For over 20 years, nearing 30, the objective was to treat this as one Pk4-8th grade school, not simply as a feeder. It doesn't always align that way, but the model and objective differs substantially from a feeder model.

I don't know the exact history of the Cluster, but I bought my house IB for LT in 2002 and it has been IB for SH since I bought it. I checked what the feed was when we were looking and it was LT, SH, Dunbar at that point. With the redistributing ,only the Dunbar feed changed to Eastern. I believe JO Wilson has also always fed into SH, but I don't have first-hand knowledge of that. It's not really relavent to this thread, but I wanted to correct this misstatement by the PP.

This isn't true. Your HOUSE may have been inbounds for SH, but Ludlow Taylor nor JO Wilson were officially feeders ( i.e. all students there had rights to SH regardless of home address )until around 2010ish.

This is a distinction without a difference for everyone who lives IB for LT or JO Wilson. Our houses are, and always have been, IB for SH without having any relationship to the Cluster. We only had the right to send our kids to SH without entering the OOB lottery. SH has always had a bigger relationship to our neighborhood that it's status as part of the Cluster. It is our neighborhood middle school even though we don't have rights to Peabody or Watkins.

I see we have newbies here. The distinction between a school having FEEDER rights to a middle school versus an ADDRESS having rights to a middle school is huge. Just ask all the people who jockey for a 5th grade slot at particular OOB elementary school simply to have access to the middle school in the feeder pattern.

Cannot but help notice you haven't addressed the actual issue at hand. Would you like ketchup with your red herring?

NP here, can you remind us what the actual issue is? I can't be the only one who's lost track.

[Anonymous]

I don't think anyone knows any longer. OP just wanted to know if the pk3 WL will move, people posted its not going to move much for reasons x and y, and then someone chimed in to say they didn't think SWS was "all that" so OP should hold out hope that people on the WL would decline seats if offered. Some other people chimed in saying they didn't think it was great either, citing cliquey parents (but have yet to give a solid example of said cliquey behavior) and I'm not sure where the SH cluster feed vs. address feed came in but here we are.

[Anonymous]

So, has the waitlist moved for pk3 or pk4?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just an observation: There seems to be a divide on perspectives here, and elsewhere. There were clearly many, many battles fought over the "Cluster Schools". Those families that were involved are understandably entrenched and their perspectives are informed greatly by that. But for those of us who are only now entering ECE, we don't share that perspective. I don't think of SWS as anything other than a boundary-less DCPS school. And Peabody and Watkins are just one elementary school that happens to be in two buildings. Stuart Hobson isn't a "Cluster School" to me; it is the MS into which several ES (including Watkins) feed. It's interesting to me that Peabody/Watkins parents and posters with older kids lay claim to SH as if it was part of that school, instead of what it is now, a feeder school from area elementary schools.

Not a judgment. Not a shot at anyone. Just an observation.

It may be best for you not to spout when you aren't on top of the facts. Until a few years ago, only P/W fed to SH. Through the end of this year, P/W and SH share a Principal, share the PTA and LSAT, and essentially share a budget allocation from DCPS, because of the fungibility of the budgets across campuses. There is a lot more to SH being part of the Cluster than the feeder aspect. For over 20 years, nearing 30, the objective was to treat this as one Pk4-8th grade school, not simply as a feeder. It doesn't always align that way, but the model and objective differs substantially from a feeder model.

I don't know the exact history of the Cluster, but I bought my house IB for LT in 2002 and it has been IB for SH since I bought it. I checked what the feed was when we were looking and it was LT, SH, Dunbar at that point. With the redistributing ,only the Dunbar feed changed to Eastern. I believe JO Wilson has also always fed into SH, but I don't have first-hand knowledge of that. It's not really relavent to this thread, but I wanted to correct this misstatement by the PP.

This isn't true. Your HOUSE may have been inbounds for SH, but Ludlow Taylor nor JO Wilson were officially feeders ( i.e. all students there had rights to SH regardless of home address )until around 2010ish.

This is a distinction without a difference for everyone who lives IB for LT or JO Wilson. Our houses are, and always have been, IB for SH without having any relationship to the Cluster. We only had the right to send our kids to SH without entering the OOB lottery. SH has always had a bigger relationship to our neighborhood that it's status as part of the Cluster. It is our neighborhood middle school even though we don't have rights to Peabody or Watkins.

I see we have newbies here. The distinction between a school having FEEDER rights to a middle school versus an ADDRESS having rights to a middle school is huge. Just ask all the people who jockey for a 5th grade slot at particular OOB elementary school simply to have access to the middle school in the feeder pattern.

Cannot but help notice you haven't addressed the actual issue at hand. Would you like ketchup with your red herring?

NP here, can you remind us what the actual issue is? I can't be the only one who's lost track.

The issue is whether Watkins will continue to have funding for modernization.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know if the wait list has moved, or expected to move for 1st? Our number hasn't changed but I know its not always current.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know if the wait list has moved, or expected to move for 1st? Our number hasn't changed but I know its not always current.

I don't think any spots were listed as being open during the lottery for 1st-4th, right? Consequently, in order for the waitlist to move, a family on the waitlist ahead of you has to accept a spot elsewhere or a family already at the school has to leave. Families currently at the school don't have to submit their registration paperwork until June (like all other DCPS) so I wouldn't expect the waitlist for 1st-4th to start moving (if it does) in a meaningful way (i.e., there is actually a spot at the school for someone to take) until mid June or so.

Sorry to not have better news.

[Anonymous]

Our WL numbers moved from 110 to 108 for PK3. This may mean that two spots were offered off of the list...good luck for those with good numbers!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our WL numbers moved from 110 to 108 for PK3. This may mean that two spots were offered off of the list...good luck for those with good numbers!

no -- it just means that two people ahead of you enrolled somewhere (not necessarily SWS) and are no longer on the list

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our WL numbers moved from 110 to 108 for PK3. This may mean that two spots were offered off of the list...good luck for those with good numbers!

no -- it just means that two people ahead of you enrolled somewhere (not necessarily SWS) and are no longer on the list

Hence the "may mean"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our WL numbers moved from 110 to 108 for PK3. This may mean that two spots were offered off of the list...good luck for those with good numbers!

no -- it just means that two people ahead of you enrolled somewhere (not necessarily SWS) and are no longer on the list

Hence the "may mean"

Our waitlist number is in the 40s and has only improved by 1. So odds are good that at least one of those two spots PP moved was just someone who enrolled elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, has the waitlist moved for pk3 or pk4?

HAHA! love this.

Right!