Why are certain charters on the top of everyone's lists? What is the magic that makes them so loved?

[Anonymous]

My child is ain't the 4th grade at LAMB. Very pleased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny, I think "race" is at the bottom of the reasons (or nonexistent) anyone sends their kids to a DCPS school. Test scores or special programming (like a language immersion) are at the top.

I suppose race could be a reason if your kid is white and the question is whether you'd want to send the kid to the 97% black school or the 70% black school. To accuse the white parents of anti-black racism for choosing the 70% school is pretty ridiculous. Real racists don't send their kids to DCPS. If you think they do, then what you're doing is hunting mice when your guns should be trained on the big game, elsewhere.

Mice can do a lot of damage while you're not looking. Just because there are bigger, louder game doesn't mean you should ignore the mice.

Eracism.

[Anonymous]

Where do REAL RACISTS send their kids to school? Really you said that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

Because it's compulsory public school and not Miss Winthrop Worthington's Finishing School for Manners and Charm?

Do you not live in the United States? Seriously curious. This kind of question is something my Ghanaian friend would ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

Because it's compulsory public school and not Miss Winthrop Worthington's Finishing School for Manners and Charm?

Do you not live in the United States? Seriously curious. This kind of question is something my Ghanaian friend would ask.

Don't kids get expelled from public schools all over the USA? Do you not possess the ability to think critically, or to refrain from spurious questions in response to an opinion that differs from your own?

[Anonymous]

Fact is DCPS removed 3 and expelled 1 in 10,000 because it has a public responsibility to education all students, no matter their behavior.

Charters getting rid of 272 (72 per 10,000) is just their way of preserving their bottom lines because DC does not give them enough money to deal with high need cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

Because it's compulsory public school and not Miss Winthrop Worthington's Finishing School for Manners and Charm?

Do you not live in the United States? Seriously curious. This kind of question is something my Ghanaian friend would ask.

Don't kids get expelled from public schools all over the USA? Do you not possess the ability to think critically, or to refrain from spurious questions in response to an opinion that differs from your own?

Yes, all over the U S A kids get expelled from public school -- for serious violations. They do not get forever kicked out of taxpayer-funded, compulsory public school for being annoying.

Your writing style, word choice (nuisance, USA, possess the ability vs. "have") suggests you are not from or even in the United States. You -could- be from a country where free, compulsory K-12 education isn't the norm.

This could be why you do not possess the ability to assimilate and view your current environment in the District of Columbia using an intellectually rigorous framework to analyze present considerations and normative customs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Don't kids get expelled from public schools all over the USA? Do you not possess the ability to think critically, or to refrain from spurious questions in response to an opinion that differs from your own?

NP here. I'd like to ask you: do YOU not possess the ability to think critically? What do you think happens to children who are expelled? Have you heard of the school-to-prison pipeline?

These kids need help, not to be turned out to the streets. They need LOTS of help, in many cases. If they don't get it, it is worse for our society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

If a child is kicked out (or counselled out = encouraged to withdraw under threat of expulsion, which happens all.the.time at charters and some DCPS), if a child does leave, the per pupil funding ABSOLUTELY SHOULD FOLLOW for the rest of the year. All of the remaining funding. It should be allocated in thirds and for all those kids counselled out after count day, the last 2/3 goes where the child goes.

That is only fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

If a child is kicked out (or counselled out = encouraged to withdraw under threat of expulsion, which happens all.the.time at charters and some DCPS), if a child does leave, the per pupil funding ABSOLUTELY SHOULD FOLLOW for the rest of the year. All of the remaining funding. It should be allocated in thirds and for all those kids counselled out after count day, the last 2/3 goes where the child goes.

That is only fair.

It would also be fair if DCPS distributed funds in an equal way to each DCPS. There are huge differences in per pupil funding depending on the school. If anyone can explain the "formula" I would love to hear it. DCPS bases their allocations on estimated enrollment, not actual counts, anyway. The whole thing is very loosey goosey and I doubt highly whether taking $4000 or $9000 from a charter and giving it to a DCPS is going to make any difference at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don't kids get expelled from public schools all over the USA? Do you not possess the ability to think critically, or to refrain from spurious questions in response to an opinion that differs from your own?

NP here. I'd like to ask you: do YOU not possess the ability to think critically? What do you think happens to children who are expelled? Have you heard of the school-to-prison pipeline?

These kids need help, not to be turned out to the streets. They need LOTS of help, in many cases. If they don't get it, it is worse for our society.

It is certain that they need help but not at the expense of every other student's education. I think there should be separate educational facilities for students who continually disrupt the education of others despite multiple interventions to help them assimilate. And of course if said student poses a safety risk to others then they should immediately be placed in another facility IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two Rivers isn't Title 1.

Two River is most certainly Title 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don't kids get expelled from public schools all over the USA? Do you not possess the ability to think critically, or to refrain from spurious questions in response to an opinion that differs from your own?

NP here. I'd like to ask you: do YOU not possess the ability to think critically? What do you think happens to children who are expelled? Have you heard of the school-to-prison pipeline?

These kids need help, not to be turned out to the streets. They need LOTS of help, in many cases. If they don't get it, it is worse for our society.

I agree that these kids need help but not at the expense of every other kid. There should be separate classrooms and even schools in the worst cases for kids who continually disrupt classes or who endanger other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That source should be posted to many threads.

I agree because it is the definitive rejoinder to the but but but but! defenders who say with a straight face that nobody in CharterWorld cherry picks anymore -- not since we all went to common lottery / myschoolDC. Sunshine and unicorns!



It's true that everyone can participate in the Common Lottery, so long as they have prior knowledge of the lottery process and the ability to get to a public library, get a library CARD using your gov't issued ID, and then log on to the free DC Public Library computers. Everyone in the city technically has the same chance now to win a spot at any school.

Reliably getting to that school? Not a level playing field and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Staying in that school and not getting bounced back into DCPS? See data in the WaPo link.

If they are in the school and are a nuisance, then why shouldn't they be kicked out?

Because it's compulsory public school and not Miss Winthrop Worthington's Finishing School for Manners and Charm?

Do you not live in the United States? Seriously curious. This kind of question is something my Ghanaian friend would ask.

Don't kids get expelled from public schools all over the USA? Do you not possess the ability to think critically, or to refrain from spurious questions in response to an opinion that differs from your own?

Yes, all over the U S A kids get expelled from public school -- for serious violations. They do not get forever kicked out of taxpayer-funded, compulsory public school for being annoying.

Your writing style, word choice (nuisance, USA, possess the ability vs. "have") suggests you are not from or even in the United States. You -could- be from a country where free, compulsory K-12 education isn't the norm.

This could be why you do not possess the ability to assimilate and view your current environment in the District of Columbia using an intellectually rigorous framework to analyze present considerations and normative customs.

NP here: I really dislike when people do this. You realize that there are plenty of "foreign" people living here and well versed in customs of this country. Just because we don't get syntax exactl right or use different words doesn't mean we aren't intellegent. In fact, someone who is fluent in several languages might be more intellegent on average.

But, the argument isn't about language - you are just using that to distract from the actual topic. Which is what people do when they have no real argument left.