Catholic Schools in General

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What an awful experience in a closed minded environment. In a world as fluid and interconnected, it's unfortunate that some still want to keep themselves closed off from "others" (non Catholics). There's such an odd "us against them" complex in the Catholic community that gets in the way of truly mixing with other people.

Seriously? I work for the Archdiocese of Washington and almost none of our clients is white or Catholic. You really need to get out more.

+1 non-Catholics really don't understand Catholics, but they seem to have an endless fascination with all things Catholic - the Roman Catholic Church is, after, all, the oldest institution in the world.

Yes. You're so special that are obsessed with you. That's it.

And I guess sexism and racism are good things in your community (rather than sins).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an awful experience in a closed minded environment. In a world as fluid and interconnected, it's unfortunate that some still want to keep themselves closed off from "others" (non Catholics). There's such an odd "us against them" complex in the Catholic community that gets in the way of truly mixing with other people.

Seriously? I work for the Archdiocese of Washington and almost none of our clients is white or Catholic. You really need to get out more.

+1 non-Catholics really don't understand Catholics, but they seem to have an endless fascination with all things Catholic - the Roman Catholic Church is, after, all, the oldest institution in the world.

Seriously? Is that taught in Catechism? You really want to go forward with that statement? I'll give you a chance to modify before the educated come blasting at you.

Japanese Imperial system, created in 660 B.C. Many Chinese institutions. Patriarchy. Buddhism. Hinduism. If you are going to throw assertions around at least learn to qualify. What do you mean by "institution". You don't even say if it has to be currently operating. Go learn some history.

[Anonymous]

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But what I found most troublesome was the way the teachers treated the kids, each other, other parents, and the gossip among the parents. We were glad to leave and never looked back. It was not the best moment for the Catholic Church and my family will never become Catholic due to the negative experiences we had. And, yes, that's why some Christians say Catholics aren't Christian. I did not have this feeling before we tried Catholic Schools. I definitely have it now. And, no, I'm not a Catholic basher.

How ironic, seeing that (1) Catholics were the original Christians, and (2) American Catholics, when surveyed, are more accepting of gays, immigrants, and other minority groups than other Christian groups.

And yes, any person who would make such a statement IS, by definition, a Catholic basher.

What?? This is WRONG. Other Protestant churches allow same sex marriage, have openly gay clergy, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But what I found most troublesome was the way the teachers treated the kids, each other, other parents, and the gossip among the parents. We were glad to leave and never looked back. It was not the best moment for the Catholic Church and my family will never become Catholic due to the negative experiences we had. And, yes, that's why some Christians say Catholics aren't Christian. I did not have this feeling before we tried Catholic Schools. I definitely have it now. And, no, I'm not a Catholic basher.

How ironic, seeing that (1) Catholics were the original Christians, and (2) American Catholics, when surveyed, are more accepting of gays, immigrants, and other minority groups than other Christian groups.

And yes, any person who would make such a statement IS, by definition, a Catholic basher.

1) the original Christians were Jews. B) AmericanCatholics are not more accepting. You are thinking of the Episcopal Church and the Unitarian Church.

Some Christians may have been Jews at a point in time. But once they became Christians they ceased to be Jews.

And, look around in the inner city to see which churches are involved. Any Episcopalians? Nope. Any Unitarians. Surely, you jest.

These churches are plenty Liberal. But it's all just talk and no action in helping the world's poor and the inner city poor. The Catholic Church is doing pretty much all the heavy lifting in these realms. Give me, if you can, the Episcopalian or Unitarian Church equivalent to the Jesuit Academy.The other churches are leading the way in making sure no one's feelings are hurt.

Misinformed again. In DC alone, Episcopalians support Iona House (seniors), many churches offer homeless lodging, food and/or showers, Bishop Walker School in SE DC, Episcopal Home for Children, and I am sure I am forgetting a lot. Not to mention the 30% or so of kids on scholarship at other fine Episcopal schools. Also huge engagement with Rebuilding Together (I think started with
at St. Columba's) and more.

[Anonymous]

Yawn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But what I found most troublesome was the way the teachers treated the kids, each other, other parents, and the gossip among the parents. We were glad to leave and never looked back. It was not the best moment for the Catholic Church and my family will never become Catholic due to the negative experiences we had. And, yes, that's why some Christians say Catholics aren't Christian. I did not have this feeling before we tried Catholic Schools. I definitely have it now. And, no, I'm not a Catholic basher.

How ironic, seeing that (1) Catholics were the original Christians, and (2) American Catholics, when surveyed, are more accepting of gays, immigrants, and other minority groups than other Christian groups.

And yes, any person who would make such a statement IS, by definition, a Catholic basher.

1) the original Christians were Jews. B) AmericanCatholics are not more accepting. You are thinking of the Episcopal Church and the Unitarian Church.

Some Christians may have been Jews at a point in time. But once they became Christians they ceased to be Jews.

And, look around in the inner city to see which churches are involved. Any Episcopalians? Nope. Any Unitarians. Surely, you jest.

These churches are plenty Liberal. But it's all just talk and no action in helping the world's poor and the inner city poor. The Catholic Church is doing pretty much all the heavy lifting in these realms. Give me, if you can, the Episcopalian or Unitarian Church equivalent to the Jesuit Academy.The other churches are leading the way in making sure no one's feelings are hurt.

Misinformed again. In DC alone, Episcopalians support Iona House (seniors), many churches offer homeless lodging, food and/or showers, Bishop Walker School in SE DC, Episcopal Home for Children, and I am sure I am forgetting a lot. Not to mention the 30% or so of kids on scholarship at other fine Episcopal schools. Also huge engagement with Rebuilding Together (I think started with
at St. Columba's) and more.

And, as noted above, the Salvation Army, alone, is no. 1 in the world in terms of charity work. Not the Catholic church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But what I found most troublesome was the way the teachers treated the kids, each other, other parents, and the gossip among the parents. We were glad to leave and never looked back. It was not the best moment for the Catholic Church and my family will never become Catholic due to the negative experiences we had. And, yes, that's why some Christians say Catholics aren't Christian. I did not have this feeling before we tried Catholic Schools. I definitely have it now. And, no, I'm not a Catholic basher.

How ironic, seeing that (1) Catholics were the original Christians, and (2) American Catholics, when surveyed, are more accepting of gays, immigrants, and other minority groups than other Christian groups.

And yes, any person who would make such a statement IS, by definition, a Catholic basher.

1) the original Christians were Jews. B) AmericanCatholics are not more accepting. You are thinking of the Episcopal Church and the Unitarian Church.

Some Christians may have been Jews at a point in time. But once they became Christians they ceased to be Jews.

And, look around in the inner city to see which churches are involved. Any Episcopalians? Nope. Any Unitarians. Surely, you jest.

These churches are plenty Liberal. But it's all just talk and no action in helping the world's poor and the inner city poor. The Catholic Church is doing pretty much all the heavy lifting in these realms. Give me, if you can, the Episcopalian or Unitarian Church equivalent to the Jesuit Academy.The other churches are leading the way in making sure no one's feelings are hurt.

Misinformed again. In DC alone, Episcopalians support Iona House (seniors), many churches offer homeless lodging, food and/or showers, Bishop Walker School in SE DC, Episcopal Home for Children, and I am sure I am forgetting a lot. Not to mention the 30% or so of kids on scholarship at other fine Episcopal schools. Also huge engagement with Rebuilding Together (I think started with
at St. Columba's) and more.

And, as noted above, the Salvation Army, alone, is no. 1 in the world in terms of charity work. Not the Catholic church.

Does the Salvation Army have branch offices in India and Africa?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But what I found most troublesome was the way the teachers treated the kids, each other, other parents, and the gossip among the parents. We were glad to leave and never looked back. It was not the best moment for the Catholic Church and my family will never become Catholic due to the negative experiences we had. And, yes, that's why some Christians say Catholics aren't Christian. I did not have this feeling before we tried Catholic Schools. I definitely have it now. And, no, I'm not a Catholic basher.

How ironic, seeing that (1) Catholics were the original Christians, and (2) American Catholics, when surveyed, are more accepting of gays, immigrants, and other minority groups than other Christian groups.

And yes, any person who would make such a statement IS, by definition, a Catholic basher.

What?? This is WRONG. Other Protestant churches allow same sex marriage, have openly gay clergy, etc.

Good for them. This couldn't be the reason they are losing members at such a high rate, could it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Catholic Church has always catered to the lower SES classes in America - even as some Catholics move up the SES ladder recent Catholic immigrants take their place at the bottom of the SES ladder.

Catholic schools historically played an important role in urban areas. As urban areas became less Catholic and more minority, the diversity of Catholic schools increased substantially. Urban Catholic schools are now often majority minority and non-catholic.

Now, however, charter schools are providing another alternative to failed public systems.

Only on DCUM is a HHI of $200K considered lower SES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an awful experience in a closed minded environment. In a world as fluid and interconnected, it's unfortunate that some still want to keep themselves closed off from "others" (non Catholics). There's such an odd "us against them" complex in the Catholic community that gets in the way of truly mixing with other people.

Seriously? I work for the Archdiocese of Washington and almost none of our clients is white or Catholic. You really need to get out more.

+1 non-Catholics really don't understand Catholics, but they seem to have an endless fascination with all things Catholic - the Roman Catholic Church is, after, all, the oldest institution in the world.

Seriously? Is that taught in Catechism? You really want to go forward with that statement? I'll give you a chance to modify before the educated come blasting at you.

Japanese Imperial system, created in 660 B.C. Many Chinese institutions. Patriarchy. Buddhism. Hinduism. If you are going to throw assertions around at least learn to qualify. What do you mean by "institution". You don't even say if it has to be currently operating. Go learn some history.

Very weak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an awful experience in a closed minded environment. In a world as fluid and interconnected, it's unfortunate that some still want to keep themselves closed off from "others" (non Catholics). There's such an odd "us against them" complex in the Catholic community that gets in the way of truly mixing with other people.

There are 6 private elementary Christian schools in our town alone of which only two are catholic. Plus a gifted school, a private Montessori school, and some other private schools that cater to the very wealthy. Private schools are not open environments. If you want true mixing with other people, don't pick private and don't pick a public that has little diversity among wealth and race and ability.

I'm not sure the poster is all that interested in a general mixing as they are in being accepted by the Catholics without prejudice.

The Catholics seem to be saying that diversity and mixing are way over-rated in their opinion.

Our Catholic school is way more diverse than our local FFX County public school. I am glad that my child goes to a diverse Catholic school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But what I found most troublesome was the way the teachers treated the kids, each other, other parents, and the gossip among the parents. We were glad to leave and never looked back. It was not the best moment for the Catholic Church and my family will never become Catholic due to the negative experiences we had. And, yes, that's why some Christians say Catholics aren't Christian. I did not have this feeling before we tried Catholic Schools. I definitely have it now. And, no, I'm not a Catholic basher.

How ironic, seeing that (1) Catholics were the original Christians, and (2) American Catholics, when surveyed, are more accepting of gays, immigrants, and other minority groups than other Christian groups.

And yes, any person who would make such a statement IS, by definition, a Catholic basher.

1) the original Christians were Jews. B) AmericanCatholics are not more accepting. You are thinking of the Episcopal Church and the Unitarian Church.

Some Christians may have been Jews at a point in time. But once they became Christians they ceased to be Jews.

And, look around in the inner city to see which churches are involved. Any Episcopalians? Nope. Any Unitarians. Surely, you jest.

These churches are plenty Liberal. But it's all just talk and no action in helping the world's poor and the inner city poor. The Catholic Church is doing pretty much all the heavy lifting in these realms. Give me, if you can, the Episcopalian or Unitarian Church equivalent to the Jesuit Academy.The other churches are leading the way in making sure no one's feelings are hurt.

Misinformed again. In DC alone, Episcopalians support Iona House (seniors), many churches offer homeless lodging, food and/or showers, Bishop Walker School in SE DC, Episcopal Home for Children, and I am sure I am forgetting a lot. Not to mention the 30% or so of kids on scholarship at other fine Episcopal schools. Also huge engagement with Rebuilding Together (I think started with
at St. Columba's) and more.

And, as noted above, the Salvation Army, alone, is no. 1 in the world in terms of charity work. Not the Catholic church.

Does the Salvation Army have branch offices in India and Africa?

Of course. It's worldwide (how ignorant are you?). I've got relatives in Africa right now. And, yes, it is a religion in its own right.

[Anonymous]

Salvation Army worldwide. BTW, it was started in England - you probably don't even know that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Salvation_Army

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an awful experience in a closed minded environment. In a world as fluid and interconnected, it's unfortunate that some still want to keep themselves closed off from "others" (non Catholics). There's such an odd "us against them" complex in the Catholic community that gets in the way of truly mixing with other people.

Seriously? I work for the Archdiocese of Washington and almost none of our clients is white or Catholic. You really need to get out more.

+1 non-Catholics really don't understand Catholics, but they seem to have an endless fascination with all things Catholic - the Roman Catholic Church is, after, all, the oldest institution in the world.

Seriously? Is that taught in Catechism? You really want to go forward with that statement? I'll give you a chance to modify before the educated come blasting at you.

+1000. The claim that the Catholic Church is the oldest "institution" (why kind of institutioin? Hinduism, Zorasterianism is much older) might be true in the sense of Catholic tradition and mythology, but certainly not as a historical truth.There is no "Church" with a capital C in early Christianity. There are various teachers, each of which claims himself to be Christian, in various parts of the Roman Empire, including in Rome. Whether or not Peter himself actually went to Rome and did anything there is not known. In any case, over time, these early organizations became large and complex enough to have hierarchical leaders, e.g, "bishops", especially in important cities such as Rome, Antioch, Alexandria, (later) Constantinople, and so on.
The bishop of Rome became the "Pope," although this term was only used later on. The Catholic Church enjoys the prestige of associating itself with Peter, and has a mythological list of popes dating back to Peter, but it's not any more historical than, say, Romulus being the first King of Rome.
As for the Schism, it's a bit of misnomer. The "Eastern" church was formed around the bishop (later Patriarch) of Constantinople. These organizations were never united in any way. They attempted to agree on theological matters from time to time, but these efforts frequently failed, leading to the so called schisms. However, these have always been separate organizations, certainly never part of any overarching "Church"

[Anonymous]

Whatever. Stupid religion for stupid people. Today the Vatican made the earth shattering revelation that it shouldn't be so hostile to homosexuals. So revolutionary.