Truth about being three coughs above FARMS at a high performing Charter School

[Anonymous]

What is a cough let alone 3 coughs away. I cough isn't a unit of measurement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are wonderful. Sincerely, a working class DCPS teacher.

+ 1

It looks like DCPS teachers have decided to use DCUM as a lobbying forum for their jobs.

Nope. We come purely for entertainment purposes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And by making before and after care so expensive, and expensive extracurriculars, combined with a crazy school calendar, they are purposefully weeding out lower income families so that they can continue to maintain these false appearances. So in fact, what they are doing is successful, according to some pp's in this thread who have admitted that they haven't applied because of this very culture. And the school knows these lower income families, and know that these families don't contribute anything to their agenda, so they are treated differently.

And, to that end, I believe several of these sought after charters are completely aware of these facts - they are way ahead of the OP.

This is such a crock. I know exactly who OP is and what she fails to mention here is that even if she truly can't afford to pay for aftercare or extracurricular activities, she could ask the people at her "highly regarded charter," the very ones she is claiming are discriminating against her, and they would bend over backward to try and find a solution for her and her DC. But she doesn't ask, and I think it's partly because it's hard to ask for help from the driver's seat of $60K SUV!

She's got a chip on her shoulder because she doesn't feel "acknowledged" enough. And I'm willing to admit that hey, maybe she isn't. There are probably numerous reasons for that: maybe there's a cultural disconnect, maybe she's misunderstood, maybe she feels like an outsider, maybe she has complained about ridiculous things and been put on the defensive because of it, maybe she thinks she could do it all better. Regardless of what she is experiencing or how she feels about it, her kid is not being discriminated against. What she fails to realize is that by taking her own experience and spinning into some sort of yarn of discrimination - discrimination that is hurting her kids and equating to them not getting an equal education, she's actually hurting her kid(s)!

Please, take a deep look OP.

Okay, I can't be the only one who's wildly curious as to whether the OP in fact drives a $60k SUV.

[Anonymous]

Those claiming to know who OP is sound like idiots. There are at least 2 of her at EVERY school.

A few parents at DS's school sounded just like her--in a different state back in the 90's!!! There is nothing unique or telling about her concerns. They exist at every school of choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those claiming to know who OP is sound like idiots. There are at least 2 of her at EVERY school.

A few parents at DS's school sounded just like her--in a different state back in the 90's!!! There is nothing unique or telling about her concerns. They exist at every school of choice.

"School of choice" is getting thrown around a lot. (Muriel? Is that you?) but seeing as only 25% of kids attend thei in boundary schools, aren't they all pretty much schools of choice these days?

I'm surprised people are having trouble grasping the concept of being "3 coughs" above FARM. I took it to mean you are basically one emergency away from poverty. "Three coughs" or illnesses away. At least, that's how I took it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good idea not to "out" the OP, as you may think you know who OP is but you may be wrong. I have heard similar stories from low and middle income families at charter, public, and private schools It is a little strange that this post would turn so personnel so quickly. Makes me wonder if OP and those who "know" her are in fact the same person.

? Are you saying that OP is having a conversation with herself, pretending people are saying they know who she is?

Not sure, just don't understand how people could know who she is. Personally I think that she wants us all to believe she is referring to YuYing without naming the school. I have heard that they have a lot (more than typical) professional days; timeline seems to fit; expansion funding = DCI; etc. The thing is I have heard complaints similar to hers about other HRCS. This is why it is hard for me to believe that anyone would truly know who she is. If the post is real I do feel for her; but after reading some of the "I know who you are and I know you child" responses I am left feeling that it is all a little off. Why would anyone mention her child even to compliment? Just seems like someone is going out of their way to be sensational.

Agree with your entire post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And by making before and after care so expensive, and expensive extracurriculars, combined with a crazy school calendar, they are purposefully weeding out lower income families so that they can continue to maintain these false appearances. So in fact, what they are doing is successful, according to some pp's in this thread who have admitted that they haven't applied because of this very culture. And the school knows these lower income families, and know that these families don't contribute anything to their agenda, so they are treated differently.

And, to that end, I believe several of these sought after charters are completely aware of these facts - they are way ahead of the OP.

This is such a crock. I know exactly who OP is and what she fails to mention here is that even if she truly can't afford to pay for aftercare or extracurricular activities, she could ask the people at her "highly regarded charter," the very ones she is claiming are discriminating against her, and they would bend over backward to try and find a solution for her and her DC. But she doesn't ask, and I think it's partly because it's hard to ask for help from the driver's seat of $60K SUV!

She's got a chip on her shoulder because she doesn't feel "acknowledged" enough. And I'm willing to admit that hey, maybe she isn't. There are probably numerous reasons for that: maybe there's a cultural disconnect, maybe she's misunderstood, maybe she feels like an outsider, maybe she has complained about ridiculous things and been put on the defensive because of it, maybe she thinks she could do it all better. Regardless of what she is experiencing or how she feels about it, her kid is not being discriminated against. What she fails to realize is that by taking her own experience and spinning into some sort of yarn of discrimination - discrimination that is hurting her kids and equating to them not getting an equal education, she's actually hurting her kid(s)!

Please, take a deep look OP.

Okay, I can't be the only one who's wildly curious as to whether the OP in fact drives a $60k SUV.

No, as I don't think what vehicle OP drives bare any relevance to the overall theme of her original post, ie, the inequities of how the school handles varying SES kids in the school.

[Anonymous]

@20:29 yesterday

+100 Gentrification does bring uplift. Charters transcend boundaries that historically drove segregation. Charters are typically far more diverse in terms of race and SES than the typical DCPS school. Gentrification brings services and attention to neighborhoods that have been ignored and neglected. Gentrification brings jobs. Yes, gentrification drives property prices up - but the key is in adaptation and seeing it as an opportunity. There are those who will take advantage of the better educational opportunities, the jobs and other things that come with gentrification and they will be uplifted. Yes, the ones who don't see the opportunity and take advantage of it will likely end up pushed out - though, there are many places where it's far cheaper to live than DC anyways. It's evolution. Humanity didn't get out of the stone age because we ran out of stones, humanity got out of the stone age because we learned there are better ways to survive and thrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And by making before and after care so expensive, and expensive extracurriculars, combined with a crazy school calendar, they are purposefully weeding out lower income families so that they can continue to maintain these false appearances. So in fact, what they are doing is successful, according to some pp's in this thread who have admitted that they haven't applied because of this very culture. And the school knows these lower income families, and know that these families don't contribute anything to their agenda, so they are treated differently.

And, to that end, I believe several of these sought after charters are completely aware of these facts - they are way ahead of the OP.

This is such a crock. I know exactly who OP is and what she fails to mention here is that even if she truly can't afford to pay for aftercare or extracurricular activities, she could ask the people at her "highly regarded charter," the very ones she is claiming are discriminating against her, and they would bend over backward to try and find a solution for her and her DC. But she doesn't ask, and I think it's partly because it's hard to ask for help from the driver's seat of $60K SUV!

She's got a chip on her shoulder because she doesn't feel "acknowledged" enough. And I'm willing to admit that hey, maybe she isn't. There are probably numerous reasons for that: maybe there's a cultural disconnect, maybe she's misunderstood, maybe she feels like an outsider, maybe she has complained about ridiculous things and been put on the defensive because of it, maybe she thinks she could do it all better. Regardless of what she is experiencing or how she feels about it, her kid is not being discriminated against. What she fails to realize is that by taking her own experience and spinning into some sort of yarn of discrimination - discrimination that is hurting her kids and equating to them not getting an equal education, she's actually hurting her kid(s)!

Please, take a deep look OP.

Okay, I can't be the only one who's wildly curious as to whether the OP in fact drives a $60k SUV.

No, as I don't think what vehicle OP drives bare any relevance to the overall theme of her original post, ie, the inequities of how the school handles varying SES kids in the school.

Perhaps it doesn't bear any relevance, but it's a fact... It's. A. Fact. Has she refuted it? Has the OP, who so readily responded in the first 24 hours to her well-thought-out post, written a single peep since she was outed? Hmmm? Where are you OP? Aren't you going to pipe in and correct us that it's actually a $50K SUV?

PP: If you can honestly state it doesn't change your take on her original post, then fine. But, I ask you this: Do you really believe a poor kid, whose parents have gone out of their way, to enter the lottery and do their best by their children, and then cart their kid in to ward 3 from ward 8, is being denied certain instruction or services because of his parent's ability to contribute financially to the school? Honestly, do you believe that? I want to hear a believable take on this. If you seriously think there's an institutional mechanism whereby teachers know how much a family contributes and when they make decisions about the "exclusive" benefits a kid in a charter will receive, they take that in to account, please, detail these exclusive benefits the kid is receiving! If this is actually happening, I want to know. I will be the first to rise up and demand equality for these kids.

This entire string enrages me because OP is insinuating that the only avenue these "Three coughs from SES" families have in this city is to be treated like second-class citizens and thusly, to sign their kids up to being treated like second class citizens. And it ISN'T true, not at our charter -- not at OPs charter. No "Middle class" families reading this should think they have to sign up to be treated like crap if they want a better education for their kids, whether that be at a charter or another DCPS. Please, don't let this color your experience, please continue doing the best by your children. I promise it doesn't come with the small print of swallowing your own pride. OP is full of s-it.

OP - the challenge continues for you to give a single, concrete example of said discrimination.

...I'm waiting....

[Anonymous]

I want to know what the exclusive benefits are. Really. At our school, besides pull outs for services I don't know of any kids getting anything "special." Clearly my child is missing out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And by making before and after care so expensive, and expensive extracurriculars, combined with a crazy school calendar, they are purposefully weeding out lower income families so that they can continue to maintain these false appearances. So in fact, what they are doing is successful, according to some pp's in this thread who have admitted that they haven't applied because of this very culture. And the school knows these lower income families, and know that these families don't contribute anything to their agenda, so they are treated differently.

And, to that end, I believe several of these sought after charters are completely aware of these facts - they are way ahead of the OP.

This is such a crock. I know exactly who OP is and what she fails to mention here is that even if she truly can't afford to pay for aftercare or extracurricular activities, she could ask the people at her "highly regarded charter," the very ones she is claiming are discriminating against her, and they would bend over backward to try and find a solution for her and her DC. But she doesn't ask, and I think it's partly because it's hard to ask for help from the driver's seat of $60K SUV!

She's got a chip on her shoulder because she doesn't feel "acknowledged" enough. And I'm willing to admit that hey, maybe she isn't. There are probably numerous reasons for that: maybe there's a cultural disconnect, maybe she's misunderstood, maybe she feels like an outsider, maybe she has complained about ridiculous things and been put on the defensive because of it, maybe she thinks she could do it all better. Regardless of what she is experiencing or how she feels about it, her kid is not being discriminated against. What she fails to realize is that by taking her own experience and spinning into some sort of yarn of discrimination - discrimination that is hurting her kids and equating to them not getting an equal education, she's actually hurting her kid(s)!

Please, take a deep look OP.

Okay, I can't be the only one who's wildly curious as to whether the OP in fact drives a $60k SUV.

No, as I don't think what vehicle OP drives bare any relevance to the overall theme of her original post, ie, the inequities of how the school handles varying SES kids in the school.

The vehicle that she drives is very relevant. If she is as economically disadvantaged as she claims and is discriminated against because of that then why is she driving an expensive vehicle? If that's the case then it suggests that she's not been honest about anything she's said. I also note that since that allegation was made she has not come back at all and has not disputed it - for me that's a huge sign that she is not credible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Okay, I can't be the only one who's wildly curious as to whether the OP in fact drives a $60k SUV.

I wonder too
maybe the intent is really to stop middle class and poor people from applying to her charter?
I am middle class and think of a 60k suv as 30k too much, as I need to pay for childcare and save for college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The vehicle that she drives is very relevant. If she is as economically disadvantaged as she claims and is discriminated against because of that then why is she driving an expensive vehicle? If that's the case then it suggests that she's not been honest about anything she's said. I also note that since that allegation was made she has not come back at all and has not disputed it - for me that's a huge sign that she is not credible.

well, maybe the expensive vehicle is a defense against being looked at 'cough-zone'?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The vehicle that she drives is very relevant. If she is as economically disadvantaged as she claims and is discriminated against because of that then why is she driving an expensive vehicle? If that's the case then it suggests that she's not been honest about anything she's said. I also note that since that allegation was made she has not come back at all and has not disputed it - for me that's a huge sign that she is not credible.

well, maybe the expensive vehicle is a defense against being looked at 'cough-zone'?

Totally excuses her false accusations then.

[Anonymous]

Why she hasn't responded recently? -- perhaps she has visitors or other week-end obligations

how could she have such an expensive vehicle? -- given to her by a relative; could be a borrowed car, or she got some other kind of a good deal on it.

We really don't and can't know certain things about her. All of the above is speculation being used to discredit her. Maybe there's some truth to it, but we just don't know.