because with an enrollment of 627 kids, that would mean that the PTA spends (and raise) about $630K, which sounds like a lot, especially since there are families who do not give any money. but I don't know how much the PTA at Janney raises, so I can't say. |
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There is simply no high pressure to contribute at Janney, this is some kind of urban myth. The PTA sends reminders and encourages, but the idea of phone calls is preposterous.
Maybe the calls were about the field trip fees? Field trips do cost money and families can pay a single $75 fee at the beginning of the year, pay as you go for individual fees, or apply for a scholarship. If you have not paid they will send reminders so your child can go on the field trips. I also do not think anyone objects to schools with the challenges of high poverty students receiving more money than low poverty schools. The debate here is about a misunderstanding of how much more money high poverty schools already get than low poverty schools. There is a reflexive rejection of the idea that parents should be able to contribute to their children's schools because it is not fair that some families cannot afford to contribute. This is a circular argument that cannot be won because we having no idea what those arguing actually want that they do not have. Is it more money for high poverty schools and less for low poverty schools? If so, that is the current state of affairs even with PTA fundraising. Is it better a schools for high poverty kids? If so, that is which everyone wants, but taking PTA money away from wotp schools is not going to get you there. |
I don't mean a woman at a physical switchboard obviously. I literally mean the main office line. Does your office not have a phone? |
right, they are so selfish. on the other hand, parents zoned for the worst HS in DC who support a system where their kids can lottery into Wilson are acting with universal justice in mind, not the best interest of their kids |
This is an outright lie. We've been at the school for multiple years and have never paid the PTA money and no one has ever solicited for it. Last year it wasn't even mentioned in the back-to-school package whereas in previous years it was just included as a sheet of paper. That's it. No further mention. Plus your whole, "your kids access to stuff is definitely tied to whether you donated or not"---what does this even mean? I just want everyone to know that this poster is a lying troll trying to stir up trouble between parents. |
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Another Janney mom here.
We have never been pressured into paying the PTA money, never gotten phone calls or emails. We have had access to everything that Janney has to offer. |
That link doesn't work. |
sorry, I don't know why it does not work, it was workign yesterday, another poster posted it and I just cut and paste from that post. it was a page with all the 2015 budgets (PDF documents) of all DC public schools from the DCPS website. I just looked at DCPS web site and found these links to the Murch budget http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/downloads/ABOUT%20DCPS/Budget%20-%20Finance/FY15%20documents/Final%20School%20Allocations-FY15/DCPS-MURCH-Allocation-FY15.pdf and the Payne budget http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/downloads/ABOUT%20DCPS/Budget%20-%20Finance/FY15%20documents/Final%20School%20Allocations-FY15/DCPS-PAYNE-Allocation-FY15.pdf if these links do not work (they are working for me now), just go to the DCPS web site and type Murch 2015 budget or Payne 2015 budget and you will find them. these are the documents showing that Payne in 2015 will get about $14,000 per child while Murch will get about $9000 (so at least for these two schools, the education divide does not depend on the PTA money, as some posters are suggesting) |
Mann. Obviously.
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Thanks. If you delved deeper into these documents it is pretty clear where the funding difference comes from and it's not just that the school is title 1. Payne has MANY more kids in special education. The allocation for Payne is more than $1.1 million for special ed and at Murch it's about $400k. They also get funding for an after school program which Murch does not. You're not comparing like with like. Payne's students have many more needs. |
Of course. Or did you not understand that the raison d'être of Title I funding is to make a dimple of a difference in education circumstances between children from families with means, and children from families without? It doesn't, btw, but that's a topic for another thread. |
thanks. I did not delve deep at all, as I said. this thread was about how much various schools' PTA raise. after a few answers responding to the title, including some incorrect posts (I heard from a friend....) that seemed to suggest that PTA at JKLM schools are run by professional fundsaisers and raise much more money than they actually do, some posters expressed their outrage pointing that these schools are doing well because they have so much more money that schools in poor areas, see, 8:47 from yesterday and 14:54 from yesterday, who expressly said poor schools get less money than school in rich areas when you count the fundraising. looking at the numbers given by DCPS about Murch adn Payne, it is not trues that Payne gets less money overall with respect to Murch, even counting the money the Murch PTA raises. Payne would get over $3 Million more (while the Murch PTA raise about $300K). I was simply responsing to the people who said that schools in poor area get less. I understand that Murch and Payne students have very different needs, and I think schools like Payne should even get more, or at the very least there should be an audit on how the money is spent and if additional services are needed, they should be provided. elementary school is a crucial time for education, kids who graduate without being able to read and write will never finish high school and will never get out of poverty, eventually generating more children like them, in a never ending cycle. |
sounds like you did not read the post you are responding to very carefully. the poster was simply responding to others that said that WOTP schools have more funds and get more money. apparently it is clear to you, but not to other posters, that WOTP schools get less money and not more |
Well, the point of the discussion (or what it has evolved into) is how it is unfair for parents to contribute or raise money for they child's school because it provides these schools with more money than others. My point is that the wotp schools get less money to start out with. Regardless, taking PTA money from wotp schools will not solve the problems in schools with high poverty levels among its students. A better conversation would be what can we do for these schools to make sure they have the money, programs, and administrative resources necessary to provide such kids with the best education. Complaining that some children have good school options while others do not does not solve any problems for the children that do not. |