Not true. My kids are in upper elementary school (not religious), and they don't know anyone with two moms or dads. |
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We didn't send a child to the P school in Virginia because their GL club had a yearbook page in the lower school.
21 year old gay people....are Gay, and that's fine. But in 2nd grade, its not a choice that should be glorified as an easy path. Its a hard path, and if it is who they are, celebrate it, but its so hard a path, encouraging it in children is just wrong. |
I'm sorry, I don't understand this perspective. Do you think that by acknowledging the existence of gay people and supporting students who are gay, straight kids are going to decide, "that looks awesome! I think I'll go he gay now!"? You can't turn gay, just as you can't turn straight. The only thing these organizations do is offer support (not "glorifying") for kids who, yes, have it tough. |
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| They are knitting pride blankets out of their own eyelashes. |
I don't believe this. I actually think kids can be influenced and pressured to be gay just like they can be pressured to act straight. This would be more of a concern when the gay talk comes up when kids are so little and have no clue. I am sticking with these are not conversations for K and early elementary years. If and when I am asked why Johnny has two dads I will be honest..they choose to live together and take care of kids. Johnny does have a mom but clearly she isn't in the picture. |
Well, you are entitled to believe whatever you want, but that doesn't make it right. I'd be interested in what you think the 'gay talk' is in Lower Schools? The fact is they might just be reading a book called And Tango Makes Three, basically, 2 male penguins that choose to live together and raise a kid. How is that different from what you would say to your kids? |
| I don't want the discussion at school. If there is a gay family..I would like to direct the conversation and not have it interpreted by a teacher. This is very sensitive stuff and actually why would you need to read a book about two men who raise a child in K? That is clearly pushing an agenda. If there is a gay family in school so be it..a child has a right to a great education and should be treated fairly and I think families should treat other families fairly but teaching kids about gay families is over the top. It is not the school role to be the nanny..I am paying for education not advocacy of very very very very very small percentage of US families. I would say there are more families where mom decided to have a child because there are no good men around (not gay but single by choice) and I am guessing most schools would not be reading books about that in K. |
| Pushing an agenda? So what? If the agenda relates to EQUALITY and eliminating the shear ignorance on this thread, I say push harder. |
But...then, why read a book about a man and a woman raising a family? Doesn't every child deserve to have a chance to see their experience reflected in the class? |
| OMG seriously?? You need a man and a woman to literally make a child..now whether to devalue their role is another thing. This is what concerns me about the whole gay thing-is the thought that is being bandied about that two men are just the same in family as a man and a women and that is just not true. Can it be a fine alternative..sure but it's not the same and shouldn't be trumpted as such. I think there is a place for discussion in later years. I think high school but maybe middle school when the hormones start to rage. Not in K and early elementary. That is just wrong. It is confusing and children shouldn't be made to feel the pressure of political agendas. |
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What's confusing about people falling in love and raising kids? My kids aren't confused about straight people, they know families take many forms.
Also, you really just need a woman to make a child. You need the byproduct of a man, but not the man himself. |
You wonder why this needs to be discussed in school? Because of parents like you, with antiquated views. I look forward to the day when race and orientation don't need to be discussed. That time has not yet arrived. |
My new rule while on DCUM limits me to one "are you really that fucking stupid?" per day. Congrats! You win today. |
| Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't make them stupid. I would say the "you really don't need a man just their by product" would rate as the dumbest comment as it sort of answers why people are uncomfortable with the gay agenda with families..you have people who really look at a dad as a just a office procedure and not a necessary role. Ditto for men..who are like I just need an egg and a vessel. Scary. |