MCPS - National Merit Seminfinalists pretty unevenly distributed, don't you think?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

So more magnet kids = more NMS.

If 1/2 the blair kids are non-magnet then not many magnet kids are NMS as compared to TJ (proportionally).

[Anonymous]

TJ is not comparable to Montgomery Blair.

Not to mention that "number of National Merit Semi-Finalists" is not on the list of measures I would use to compare FCPS to MCPS -- but certainly you can, if you want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

So more magnet kids = more NMS.

If 1/2 the blair kids are non-magnet then not many magnet kids are NMS as compared to TJ (proportionally).

For the class of 2011 the Blair magnet had 32, TJ had 125, roughly the same when scaled for class size. The SAT scores for Blair were 2220 and TJ were 2200, so again almost the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

So more magnet kids = more NMS.

If 1/2 the blair kids are non-magnet then not many magnet kids are NMS as compared to TJ (proportionally).

For the class of 2011 the Blair magnet had 32, TJ had 125, roughly the same when scaled for class size. The SAT scores for Blair were 2220 and TJ were 2200, so again almost the same.

I did 2011 because I could easily grab the numbers, but I can't imagine that they changed much for this year. What this does show is that 90+% of the NMSF are from the magnet program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

Virginia has TJ. MoCo has a over dozen magnet programs across multiple disciplines. Not at all comparable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

So more magnet kids = more NMS.

If 1/2 the blair kids are non-magnet then not many magnet kids are NMS as compared to TJ (proportionally).

For the class of 2011 the Blair magnet had 32, TJ had 125, roughly the same when scaled for class size. The SAT scores for Blair were 2220 and TJ were 2200, so again almost the same.

I did 2011 because I could easily grab the numbers, but I can't imagine that they changed much for this year. What this does show is that 90+% of the NMSF are from the magnet program.

Finally some real numbers. 90% or more sounds about right to me. And no, I do not live in Bethesda and not in a W cluster.

[Anonymous]

And of the 90% there is still no breakdown of the local vs non-local students. or which magnet program they are from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

So more magnet kids = more NMS.

If 1/2 the blair kids are non-magnet then not many magnet kids are NMS as compared to TJ (proportionally).

For the class of 2011 the Blair magnet had 32, TJ had 125, roughly the same when scaled for class size. The SAT scores for Blair were 2220 and TJ were 2200, so again almost the same.

I did 2011 because I could easily grab the numbers, but I can't imagine that they changed much for this year. What this does show is that 90+% of the NMSF are from the magnet program.

Finally some real numbers. 90% or more sounds about right to me. And no, I do not live in Bethesda and not in a W cluster.

Get some sleep. Stop obsessing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And of the 90% there is still no breakdown of the local vs non-local students. or which magnet program they are from.

The numbers were from the 100 person magnet at Blair; no other program. No way to tell how many were local vs. non-local.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And of the 90% there is still no breakdown of the local vs non-local students. or which magnet program they are from.

The numbers were from the 100 person magnet at Blair; no other program. No way to tell how many were local vs. non-local.

If they are in the Magnet program, why is it important to know whether they were local or non-local. They tested in. No matter where they live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ in Fairfax had over 100 NMS.. why so many compared to MoCo magnet school?

4-5 times as many kids at TJ as in the Blair Magnet program.

This is key. Fairfax can serve and challenge more GT students than MoCo. Both force rank, obviously, MoCo just has a teeny yield it can accommodate. Too bad.

So more magnet kids = more NMS.

If 1/2 the blair kids are non-magnet then not many magnet kids are NMS as compared to TJ (proportionally).

For the class of 2011 the Blair magnet had 32, TJ had 125, roughly the same when scaled for class size. The SAT scores for Blair were 2220 and TJ were 2200, so again almost the same.

I did 2011 because I could easily grab the numbers, but I can't imagine that they changed much for this year. What this does show is that 90+% of the NMSF are from the magnet program.

Finally some real numbers. 90% or more sounds about right to me. And no, I do not live in Bethesda and not in a W cluster.

Get some sleep. Stop obsessing.

Thanks! I needed that scolding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And of the 90% there is still no breakdown of the local vs non-local students. or which magnet program they are from.

The numbers were from the 100 person magnet at Blair; no other program. No way to tell how many were local vs. non-local.

If they are in the Magnet program, why is it important to know whether they were local or non-local. They tested in. No matter where they live.

+1. Who cares where they are from? Why is this important?

[Anonymous]

Again, multiple magnets reaching from different areas. Bethesda mom was trying to imply that only the county wide tech magnet kids were nmsf. Are no CAP kids nmsf? I agree it is time to let this rest now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, multiple magnets reaching from different areas. Bethesda mom was trying to imply that only the county wide tech magnet kids were nmsf. Are no CAP kids nmsf? I agree it is time to let this rest now.

I checked, and anywhere from 2-5 CAP kids are NMSF each year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, multiple magnets reaching from different areas. Bethesda mom was trying to imply that only the county wide tech magnet kids were nmsf. Are no CAP kids nmsf? I agree it is time to let this rest now.

I checked, and anywhere from 2-5 CAP kids are NMSF each year.

+1

My son graduated from CAP a few years ago - in his class there were five.