Tell me about Georgetown Day....

[Anonymous]

I know of one of the kids involved in that incident and there were consequences. I think that the school also reassessed how it handled supervision on off-site and summer programs.

[Anonymous]

Wonderfully predictable trajectory of this thread's first post.

[Anonymous]

Ha, 13:48, so true. FWIW, there are a few GDS bashers who lurk in this forum. The moment there is a GDS thread, they rip away at the chaos, disrespect, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wonderfully predictable trajectory of this thread's first post.

Not quite. This thread omitted the ever-popular "too many Jews there" theme. Perhaps because that discussion was in full swing elsewhere in the forum....

[Anonymous]

Ha, 13:48, so true. FWIW, there are a few GDS bashers who lurk in this forum. The moment there is a GDS thread, they rip away at the chaos, disrespect, etc.


Well, 13:48 and I would add that the same could be said for every single school mentioned on this thread ever...GDS a bunch of hipster, pot smoking pansexual Jews. Landon, a bunch of misogynistic lax bro SAT Cheater-killers. Sidwell, a bunch of snotty elitist, unathletic liberals; NCS a bunch of drunken, neurotic, mean spirited girls. STA, a bunch of rude entitled brats. etc.

[Anonymous]

We were at the school (our kids were young though ) during the New Orleans trip bust and we got a letter from the Head of School explaining everything that was being done about it. I honestly do not remember the details but both my husband and I felt it was handled well by the administration of the school and I am pretty sure there were consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought that the PP you quoted wasn't talking about GDS but laying out her own criteria for what would count as a "respectable" athletics program. You see, football's too plebeian -- what matters is the prep school sports!

I am PP who listed sports programs of interest to me as: crew, tennis, cross country , swimming . You are right, I was just speaking in general terms of what would impress me as prior poster seemed to fall back on football a lot. It has nothing to do with what one person may term a "plebian" sport. It is simply that crew , cross country , tennis, and swimming are very physically demanding sports that require A LOT of aerobic and anaerobic training and I respect that. Football, less so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonderfully predictable trajectory of this thread's first post.

Not quite. This thread omitted the ever-popular "too many Jews there" theme. Perhaps because that discussion was in full swing elsewhere in the forum....

I don't think it was stated that "there are too many Jews at GDS" anywhere on this forum. This is a common tactic on DCUM to straw man . What was said in a few posts that I recall was that :

1) In response to an out of town poster who asked what school would be good for a family with teen girls who were jewish, someone suggested GDS. Actually, more than one person suggested GDS.

2) It was mentioned that GDS has a Seder every year on Passover.

3) It has been mentioned many times that GDS was founded by AA and Jewish families who were frustrated they their kids were( in the past) rejected from DC Privates because of their race or their religion.

4) Someone asked what it was like to go to GDS if you were NOT Jewish.

How did that get twisted into "too many Jews there" No one said that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that the PP you quoted wasn't talking about GDS but laying out her own criteria for what would count as a "respectable" athletics program. You see, football's too plebeian -- what matters is the prep school sports!

I am PP who listed sports programs of interest to me as: crew, tennis, cross country , swimming . You are right, I was just speaking in general terms of what would impress me as prior poster seemed to fall back on football a lot. It has nothing to do with what one person may term a "plebian" sport. It is simply that crew , cross country , tennis, and swimming are very physically demanding sports that require A LOT of aerobic and anaerobic training and I respect that. Football, less so.

Do you have some kind of evidence to back that up? Or did you pull that out of your ass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wonderfully predictable trajectory of this thread's first post.

Not quite. This thread omitted the ever-popular "too many Jews there" theme. Perhaps because that discussion was in full swing elsewhere in the forum....

I don't think it was stated that "there are too many Jews at GDS" anywhere on this forum. This is a common tactic on DCUM to straw man . What was said in a few posts that I recall was that :

1) In response to an out of town poster who asked what school would be good for a family with teen girls who were jewish, someone suggested GDS. Actually, more than one person suggested GDS.

2) It was mentioned that GDS has a Seder every year on Passover.

3) It has been mentioned many times that GDS was founded by AA and Jewish families who were frustrated they their kids were( in the past) rejected from DC Privates because of their race or their religion.

4) Someone asked what it was like to go to GDS if you were NOT Jewish.

How did that get twisted into "too many Jews there" No one said that.

Clearly you missed the "hordes of Jews" comment on the best secular schools thread (in which the claim was made that GDS wasn't secular). And, as you've corroboated, it's a recurring motif even when it's less explicit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that the PP you quoted wasn't talking about GDS but laying out her own criteria for what would count as a "respectable" athletics program. You see, football's too plebeian -- what matters is the prep school sports!

I am PP who listed sports programs of interest to me as: crew, tennis, cross country , swimming . You are right, I was just speaking in general terms of what would impress me as prior poster seemed to fall back on football a lot. It has nothing to do with what one person may term a "plebian" sport. It is simply that crew , cross country , tennis, and swimming are very physically demanding sports that require A LOT of aerobic and anaerobic training and I respect that. Football, less so.

Do you have some kind of evidence to back that up? Or did you pull that out of your ass?

The complete quote was "Not interested in football; who is ? But, National level in crew, cross country, tennis and lacrosse is respectable." Pretty clearly an argument from snobbery rather than from fitness or physical challenge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that the PP you quoted wasn't talking about GDS but laying out her own criteria for what would count as a "respectable" athletics program. You see, football's too plebeian -- what matters is the prep school sports!

I am PP who listed sports programs of interest to me as: crew, tennis, cross country , swimming . You are right, I was just speaking in general terms of what would impress me as prior poster seemed to fall back on football a lot. It has nothing to do with what one person may term a "plebian" sport. It is simply that crew , cross country , tennis, and swimming are very physically demanding sports that require A LOT of aerobic and anaerobic training and I respect that. Football, less so.

Do you have some kind of evidence to back that up?

Response:

It is from a study done on myself and all of the other NCAA Division I athletes at 10 major universities with an undergraduate student population minimum of of 25,000 or more. when I was in college.The study put athletes in each of the sports at the school through a stress treadmill test to yield a max VO2. The results , by sport, listed the max Vo2 for each athlete and were published as part of someone's doctoral dissertation. Every athlete who participated got the results mailed to them, like two years later....

Max VO2 is a measure of the maximum aerobic potential and cardiac output of a human subject. It is measured by having the subject run on a treadmill until their HR reaches maximum capacity ( about 210 bpm for a well conditioned athlete) , the subject then continues to run while breathing solely through a device that measures their O2 and Co2 mix of inhaled/expired air. The test continues until the subject nearly passes out or quits.

The results for myself, my team mates, all the other athletes at my university as well as collated results for all the participant schools were then mailed to the athletes that participated about two years later. If you were on athletic scholarship , the test was mandatory ( or so our coach told us)

The results by sport showed that the highest max Vo2's ( numbers in 70's to low 80's) were found in cross country, tennis, crew and swimming. To give you some idea, a max Vo2 of 80 is widely viewed as an aerobic capacity of world class athletic potential. A score of 30-40 is average for a human. Guess how the football team scored? I'll give you a hint, most of the results for the football team were N/A because the player had quit so soon into the treadmill run.

A max VO2 in the 80's is considered indicative of world class athletic poetential

[Anonymous]

So only endurance sports matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that the PP you quoted wasn't talking about GDS but laying out her own criteria for what would count as a "respectable" athletics program. You see, football's too plebeian -- what matters is the prep school sports!

I am PP who listed sports programs of interest to me as: crew, tennis, cross country , swimming . You are right, I was just speaking in general terms of what would impress me as prior poster seemed to fall back on football a lot. It has nothing to do with what one person may term a "plebian" sport. It is simply that crew , cross country , tennis, and swimming are very physically demanding sports that require A LOT of aerobic and anaerobic training and I respect that. Football, less so.

Do you have some kind of evidence to back that up?

Response:

It is from a study done on myself and all of the other NCAA Division I athletes at 10 major universities with an undergraduate student population minimum of of 25,000 or more. when I was in college.The study put athletes in each of the sports at the school through a stress treadmill test to yield a max VO2. The results , by sport, listed the max Vo2 for each athlete and were published as part of someone's doctoral dissertation. Every athlete who participated got the results mailed to them, like two years later....

Max VO2 is a measure of the maximum aerobic potential and cardiac output of a human subject. It is measured by having the subject run on a treadmill until their HR reaches maximum capacity ( about 210 bpm for a well conditioned athlete) , the subject then continues to run while breathing solely through a device that measures their O2 and Co2 mix of inhaled/expired air. The test continues until the subject nearly passes out or quits.

The results for myself, my team mates, all the other athletes at my university as well as collated results for all the participant schools were then mailed to the athletes that participated about two years later. If you were on athletic scholarship , the test was mandatory ( or so our coach told us)

The results by sport showed that the highest max Vo2's ( numbers in 70's to low 80's) were found in cross country, tennis, crew and swimming. To give you some idea, a max Vo2 of 80 is widely viewed as an aerobic capacity of world class athletic potential. A score of 30-40 is average for a human. Guess how the football team scored? I'll give you a hint, most of the results for the football team were N/A because the player had quit so soon into the treadmill run.

A max VO2 in the 80's is considered indicative of world class athletic poetential

I'm the poster asking about evidence. You specifically said "aerobic and anaerobic" and yet you site a study that only measures one thing.

You could just as easily decide that the measure of a "world class athlete" is how much they bench press, or the distance they can long jump, or the quality of their balance. Each one would then lead you to conclude that a different sport is superior.

The reality is that different sports appeal to different kids. A school that only offered endurance sports, particularly those like cross country, and swimming that involve relatively little team work and strategy, would not appeal to my particular kid.

[Anonymous]

Not to mention that it would be stupid to say that the only respectable HS sports program is one that produces national caliber (or "world class") athletes. With the exception of a few prep schools, the vast majority of HSes, private as well as public, draw on local pools of students.'

Gotta wonder how many parents are looking for a HS that will maximize their DCs' VO2. My guess: none.