25 APs not enough for Top 10
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Anonymous
Couldn't agree with this more. It's also why, as an IEC, I refuse to take on certain clients or families. They won't heed the advice and then will lament the outcomes. |
Anonymous
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He got into BU, USC, UCLA, Wake, UCSD. These are solid second tier colleges after Ivy+, etc.
He also said his GPA was significantly hurt, whatever that means. If you're an admissions officer and you see 25 AP's but bad grades, your job just became easier. He wrote "many things like volunteer hours" did not transfer?" That makes no sense. He also wrote high risk essays. That's a bold strategy, Cotton. So in the end he got the result he deserved. |
Anonymous
The more I read about this case, the more I think he’s pretty lucky to get into UCLA and USC! His grades are not great, and I don’t think his letters are great either. He also clearly has mediocre social skills, which are very important to elite colleges. I think this is an example of just drilling for exams alone is enough to get you into some pretty good colleges, very much like the Asian system! Speaking of that, the guy would have no problem getting a full ride to the best Asian universities. |
Anonymous
| I love how much people here love to hate on people with good stats but not perfect extracurriculars- while not noticing the irony that when their “world changing” students enter the most elite schools, they’re doing worse than every generation before them and go on to consulting! |
Anonymous
PP: I guess I didn't make myself clear. If a student who speaks another language takes an AP or CLEP test, they'll get credit if the college gives it to anyone. However, if a college has a list of required courses for applicants and that list includes. e.g., 4 years of English, 4 of math, 3-4 of science, 3-4 of a foreign language,etc. some colleges will not exempt the student who speaks a foreign language at home from meeting the foreign language requirement just because they take an AP test in their foreign language and score a 5. Is that clearer? |
Anonymous
You’re right, but if the kid wanted to improve his profile & his family wasn’t up for moving to North Dakota, what’s he supposed to do? Start another BS charity to help the downtrodden? Get adopted by Angelina Jolie? |
Anonymous
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A mile wide and inch deep is not a viable college application strategy. He has an older brother at Cornell so he was well aware of the system. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Why wouldn't volunteer hours transfer? Either you volunteered or you didn't. Also, why the need for self-described high risk essays? |
Anonymous
| I love how everyone is dumping on the kid while they’d give away a kidney so their precious child gets into UCLA, which will obviously not happen. |
Anonymous
| Clearly the kid did this on his own, even if he has an older sibling at Cornell. If I was his parent or advising him, I would give him different advice. But considering he tried his best with what he thought he knew, his results are pretty good. |
Anonymous
No, it means that for a score of 5 in AP Calculus BC you get the same credit towards a degree as passing MITs 18.01 Single Variable Calculus. Not barely, and not elementary calculus, whatever you think that means. If MIT is saying they are equivalent, it really doesn’t matter what your personal opinion is on this matter. |
Anonymous
Except it was a viable application strategy since he got into UCLA. Some schools keep track of volunteering hours and don’t accept aggregating hours from other schools. I guess a 17 year old decided to go with a quirky high risk essay since he didn’t have access to a paid college counselor or knowledgeable parent to ghost write, polish and nicely package his application. He still did better than 90% of students from so called competitive school so good for him. |
Anonymous
That doesn't make them equivalent. It just lets you skip 18.01 if you want to try the next class in the sequence. These classes are much harder than AP so doing so is challenging and most kids will repeat 18.01 at college rather than try to skip. |
Anonymous
You’re still not clear and also wrong. If a school gives foreign language credit for the AP exam it won’t disqualify students from that credit just because they didn’t take 3-4 years of that foreign language in high school. Name the school that does it, otherwise you don’t know what you’re talking about. Even more so, many school give foreign language credit by examination by the relevant college department, which you can pass by learning that language at home. Look the Harvard policy, which is notoriously stingy with AP credits if you want to educate yourself on this topic, which clearly states: “A Language and Culture AP score of a 5 or an IB Language (HL only) score of a 7 may be used to fulfill the Foreign Language Requirement.” You look incredibly stupid to claim as true facts that can be disproved with a simple google search. |
Anonymous
Curious about this, are you dumb? From the MIT website: “A score of 5 on the Calculus BC exam will grant you credit for 18.01.” Not that it lets you skip, not that 18.01 is much harder, or that it’s recommended you repeat 18.01. You get the same credit towards an MIT degree as taking 18.01. From the sample of kids I personally knew, not a single one would repeat 18.01, because they have better use of their time than reviewing material that’s already mastered. |
Anonymous
You obviously don't know anyone there. Full stop. You can read a website but don't actually know anything. Please shut up. These kids need to continue math beyond 18.01 and the everybody has already taken BC Calc. Everybody. Skipping 18.01 is not going to be fun. |