Vanity weight - glp1

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I will echo the PP who posted about having no food noise for the first time she can remember. I'm no longer obsessed with food, and I can stop eating when I'm satisfied. I don't remember EVER feeling that way. Even when I'm physically very hungry (which still happens), I'm able to plate a healthy meal, eat until I'm satisfied, and stop. It's honestly brought back some of the enjoyment I have around planning, cooking, and eating different foods. My hunger and food obsession always made me feel like any fitness or body image gains I made were futile and temporary because eating would always win out. I was my highest weight ever (138) when I started and am currently down to 120. 5'1, 48 years old, maintained between 110-120 as an adult until about 2 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:You can get it online but these are not regulated by FDA. Since it isn’t regulated, you have no idea how safe is what you are injecting into your body.

That's not quite true. There's been recent steps to curb it, but some 503b compounding pharmacies, which are FDA inspected, will fill a teleheath script. I just had one delivered the other day and I feel confident the medication is safe.

Not all are compounded at 503b compounding pharmacies. Moreover, FDA proposes to exclude semaglutide, tirzepatide, and liraglutide on 503B bulks list. Your body, your choice.

Yes, there are 503A and 503B. Until recently you had a great deal of choice in pharmacy. I specifically sought a 503B pharmacy which as I said is FDA inspected. The FDA proposal to curb this route has nothing to do with safety IMO, and everything to do with preserving profits for Eli Lilly.

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Anonymous wrote:There is such a spectrum when it comes to "normal" weight and it can mean very different things for different people, depends a lot on body shape as well. You could be normal weight with a big stomach, or a slim waist.

And just because someone is at a normal weight does not mean it's their preferred weight. It's ok to want to lose 10 or 15lbs or even 20 especially if the weight gain is recent and due to peri. OP would not even be on the low end of BMI if she did that.

There’s also a lot of women with eating disorders and body dysmorphia.

Yes, they come in all shapes and sizes. Someone being 24 BMI or 21 BMI tells you nothing about either of those. Neither does whether someone wants to lose weight and go from one to the other. It's not some unreasonable, weird goal.

If someone has a BMI of 24 and thinks that they’re obese, then it’s at least suggestive for body dysmorphia. If you want to lie to your MD, spouse, and children to get a drug to lose weight, then that’s a problem. I think GLP1 drugs are amazing for people whose health is at risk from excess weight. They also pose a real risk in enabling anorexia in people with normal or even low weights. I’ve got a college aged daughter and I’ve seen too many of her friends deal with eating disorders to be sanguine about the risks of anorexia.

BMI 23 is considered overweight in south Asian population.

Is OP south Asian? Otherwise, so?

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Anonymous wrote:Go for it, OP! I am 48 and also 5'7, currently at 125 thanks to my GLP-1 and I feel amazing and haven't looked this good in years. I went to a med spa for my prescription. I don't know if a real doctor would have approved me or not, as I started at 145 lbs and a normal BMI. But the med spa was supportive and wonderful - not the cheapest - and after I got comfortable, I switched to an online pharmacy and it's extremely cheap.

To answer your question - yes, you can go online and get it yourself. Many online pharmacies will support you - Ro, Hers, JoinFridays, Fifty410, Willow just to name a few. Good luck! This was one of the best things I ever did for myself. Zero regrets except I should've done it sooner.

OP here - do you think you will have to be on it for the rest of your life? Do you have zero food chatter now?

I go through phases where I will eat too much/snack on my kids food and then times when I don't eat at all because I am busy.

I had 3 very large babies and it has been a struggle to lose the last of the baby weight after gaining 60+ pounds each time.

I do weight lift and work out consistently - I am probably the strongest I have ever been. I can easily carry my 60 pound child around when needed. I just hate that I weigh so much.

My plan when I started was to lose 15 pounds and then stop. I dropped the 15 very fast. And I kept tapering down my dose until I stopped losing weight, ending up with a total weight loss of 20 lbs. I am not sure I will ever stop the med (I take less than 1/2 of the starting dose now) because I feel so amazing on it. Zero food chatter. I am devastated over all the years I wasted obsessing about food. That is gone now. I no longer have to fight with myself over what I eat, no longer count calories, no longer feel deprived. It feels like a miracle. I just never want to go back to the way I used to be, constantly plagued by hunger and fighting against it. I also have three kids, I work full time, I was thin for most of my life (as a result of constant vigilance and effort) but after Covid and the third baby I was so darn tired of fighting and that's when my weight crept up. I felt terrible about myself but hopeless about losing the weight. I, too, weight lift and work out consistently and I always have. It is a revolutionary feeling now to work out to be strong and healthy rather than think about it as a punishment for what I've eaten or as a way to work off what I've eaten. It's just so amazing to order anything I want at a restaurant and know I'm not going to overdo it. On this med, I really cannot, even if my mind wanted to - my stomach, after I've eaten, say, half of my salmon quinoa bowl, just says, nope, no more, I am totally full. Wrap it up and have it for dinner. Like, what? This was never me. The old me would have polished off the salmon bowl and started to feel SAD as I got to the bottom of it because I loved eating so much and the more food the better I felt.

If I were your friend, I would tell you to stop hating yourself. Life is too short. Give this a try, take the pressure off yourself, and feel happy again with what you see in the mirror. I do. It is such a joy to be able to slip into my size 4 jeans again. To get out of the shower and feel rather delighted at how I look. My tummy's not totally flat after 3 kids but it looks pretty darn nice. When I'm working out and I catch myself in the mirror I think oh my gosh I feel so nice. I no longer am thinking God I hate my fat thighs. And the best part is, it is not a fight and an exhausting struggle to be this way. The GLP-1 truly makes it effortless. I know I sound like an evangelist but I'm so over the moon about the impact it's had on my life that I cannot help but share my experience and encouragement when I see a post like yours. Good luck to you!

I am happy for you, but I just want to flag this - it's OK to eat a whole salmon bowl with quinoa, that is a healthy dinner. And you probably felt good because you were normally hungry and eating a healthy meal. It sounds like you may have some issues with food when you hated yourself so much only 15 lbs overweight and were sad and angry with yourself for just eating a healthy meal.

Again I'm happy for people who are finding success with these drugs but it's a fine line-

And OP asking if they have to take it forever - people who would take it forever are those who struggle with obesity as a disease and have their whole lives. It doesn't sound like that is you - you just have a few pounds to lose. That is my take anyway.

Different poster, and you’re right that a salmon bowl is healthy, but some of us just eat beyond our limits because we can’t stop even when full. That is 100% my issue. I got a healthyish bowl from chipotle for lunch today and was completely full after eating half but of course I kept going and polished it off. I was genuinely full but my brain told me to keep going until I had the feeling over overdoing it.

Chipotle is not healthy, too much seed oil and protein to carb ratio is off.

I didn’t say what I had from chipotle - it was a salad bowl with only lettuce, cheese, carnitas, fajita vegetables and salsa. No rice or beans. I can’t speak to seed oils but wouldn't call that a heavy carb meal.

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Now I need a reality check. Are people here really saying that anything with cheese on it is unhealthy?

You should check the calories, protein, carb counts in chipotle items, even the ones they label as healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt you really "look" overweight at 155 and 5'7. You just don't look like a skinny 20-year-old anymore. It's natural to be very skinny in your 20s and on the higher end of normal as you approach middle age. It may even be healthy. At your age, I would focus more on gaining strength and bone health than losing weight.

A lot of the advice on this website is from women who have eating disorders or borderline disordered eating.

You sound like one of those "body positivity" types that equates any diet with anorexia.

She’s a healthy weight, she literally is not overweight, she probably wears a size medium or 8, and she doesn’t need to diet.

That's not your body. You don't get to tell other women what to do with their body.

Umm. More importantly her MD does get to tell her she won’t prescribe the drugs because OP does not meet the criteria. Lying to your MD to get an Rx is wrong.

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Celebrities do it

Are you seriously arguing that lying to your MD is okay because celebrities do it? Seriously?

If you lie on telehealth to get the meds, are you planning to lie to your primary care about taking the meds? What if you have serious side effects? What if there’s a bad reaction with other drugs you’re taking? How much lying are you willing to do?

If you have a bad reaction or side effects you can just stop taking it. I did tell my PCP. I don’t take any other meds.
Why are you so concerned about what someone else does with their body?

If you want privacy and no comment on your choices, why are you posted them on a public message board?

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt you really "look" overweight at 155 and 5'7. You just don't look like a skinny 20-year-old anymore. It's natural to be very skinny in your 20s and on the higher end of normal as you approach middle age. It may even be healthy. At your age, I would focus more on gaining strength and bone health than losing weight.

A lot of the advice on this website is from women who have eating disorders or borderline disordered eating.

You sound like one of those "body positivity" types that equates any diet with anorexia.

She’s a healthy weight, she literally is not overweight, she probably wears a size medium or 8, and she doesn’t need to diet.

That's not your body. You don't get to tell other women what to do with their body.

Umm. More importantly her MD does get to tell her she won’t prescribe the drugs because OP does not meet the criteria. Lying to your MD to get an Rx is wrong.

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Celebrities do it

Are you seriously arguing that lying to your MD is okay because celebrities do it? Seriously?

If you lie on telehealth to get the meds, are you planning to lie to your primary care about taking the meds? What if you have serious side effects? What if there’s a bad reaction with other drugs you’re taking? How much lying are you willing to do?

If you have a bad reaction or side effects you can just stop taking it. I did tell my PCP. I don’t take any other meds.
Why are you so concerned about what someone else does with their body?

Because I have a college aged daughter and I see the damage that our society’s obsession with women being as small as possible does to her and her friends.

Other women do not have a duty to stay heavier than they like because it's better (in your mind) for your dd. Plus the fact that your dd has absolutely no idea if 50yo Suzie next door lost weight because she's running more and eating better or taking a GLP1 or all of the above. And I bet she also does not care!

And another nasty generation of disordered body image and eating continues.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt you really "look" overweight at 155 and 5'7. You just don't look like a skinny 20-year-old anymore. It's natural to be very skinny in your 20s and on the higher end of normal as you approach middle age. It may even be healthy. At your age, I would focus more on gaining strength and bone health than losing weight.

A lot of the advice on this website is from women who have eating disorders or borderline disordered eating.

You sound like one of those "body positivity" types that equates any diet with anorexia.

She’s a healthy weight, she literally is not overweight, she probably wears a size medium or 8, and she doesn’t need to diet.

That's not your body. You don't get to tell other women what to do with their body.

Umm. More importantly her MD does get to tell her she won’t prescribe the drugs because OP does not meet the criteria. Lying to your MD to get an Rx is wrong.

"wrong"

Celebrities do it

Are you seriously arguing that lying to your MD is okay because celebrities do it? Seriously?

If you lie on telehealth to get the meds, are you planning to lie to your primary care about taking the meds? What if you have serious side effects? What if there’s a bad reaction with other drugs you’re taking? How much lying are you willing to do?

If you have a bad reaction or side effects you can just stop taking it. I did tell my PCP. I don’t take any other meds.
Why are you so concerned about what someone else does with their body?

Because I have a college aged daughter and I see the damage that our society’s obsession with women being as small as possible does to her and her friends.

Damage?? Are her male classmates calling her a cow or something?

Seriously, you don’t know any girls with eating disorders?

I know plenty of girls who take pride in their appearance by exercising and watching their diets. Whether they are also incorporating a GLP-1 is their business. But at least they're not stuffing their faces and calling themselves "thick" or curvy" at a size 22.

Size 22? Apparently even size is 8 is not tolerated on this board.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt you really "look" overweight at 155 and 5'7. You just don't look like a skinny 20-year-old anymore. It's natural to be very skinny in your 20s and on the higher end of normal as you approach middle age. It may even be healthy. At your age, I would focus more on gaining strength and bone health than losing weight.

A lot of the advice on this website is from women who have eating disorders or borderline disordered eating.

You sound like one of those "body positivity" types that equates any diet with anorexia.

She’s a healthy weight, she literally is not overweight, she probably wears a size medium or 8, and she doesn’t need to diet.

That's not your body. You don't get to tell other women what to do with their body.

Umm. More importantly her MD does get to tell her she won’t prescribe the drugs because OP does not meet the criteria. Lying to your MD to get an Rx is wrong.

"wrong"

Celebrities do it

Are you seriously arguing that lying to your MD is okay because celebrities do it? Seriously?

If you lie on telehealth to get the meds, are you planning to lie to your primary care about taking the meds? What if you have serious side effects? What if there’s a bad reaction with other drugs you’re taking? How much lying are you willing to do?

If you have a bad reaction or side effects you can just stop taking it. I did tell my PCP. I don’t take any other meds.
Why are you so concerned about what someone else does with their body?

Because I have a college aged daughter and I see the damage that our society’s obsession with women being as small as possible does to her and her friends.

Damage?? Are her male classmates calling her a cow or something?

Seriously, you don’t know any girls with eating disorders?

I know plenty of girls who take pride in their appearance by exercising and watching their diets. Whether they are also incorporating a GLP-1 is their business. But at least they're not stuffing their faces and calling themselves "thick" or curvy" at a size 22.

Size 22? Apparently even size is 8 is not tolerated on this board.

The same women whining about GLP1s being bad are the ones making fun of size 8 moms and saying they need to get disciplined and eat better and less and work out half the day. Women cannot win.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt you really "look" overweight at 155 and 5'7. You just don't look like a skinny 20-year-old anymore. It's natural to be very skinny in your 20s and on the higher end of normal as you approach middle age. It may even be healthy. At your age, I would focus more on gaining strength and bone health than losing weight.

A lot of the advice on this website is from women who have eating disorders or borderline disordered eating.

You sound like one of those "body positivity" types that equates any diet with anorexia.

She’s a healthy weight, she literally is not overweight, she probably wears a size medium or 8, and she doesn’t need to diet.

That's not your body. You don't get to tell other women what to do with their body.

Umm. More importantly her MD does get to tell her she won’t prescribe the drugs because OP does not meet the criteria. Lying to your MD to get an Rx is wrong.

"wrong"

Celebrities do it

Are you seriously arguing that lying to your MD is okay because celebrities do it? Seriously?

If you lie on telehealth to get the meds, are you planning to lie to your primary care about taking the meds? What if you have serious side effects? What if there’s a bad reaction with other drugs you’re taking? How much lying are you willing to do?

If you have a bad reaction or side effects you can just stop taking it. I did tell my PCP. I don’t take any other meds.
Why are you so concerned about what someone else does with their body?

Because I have a college aged daughter and I see the damage that our society’s obsession with women being as small as possible does to her and her friends.

Damage?? Are her male classmates calling her a cow or something?

Seriously, you don’t know any girls with eating disorders?

I know plenty of girls who take pride in their appearance by exercising and watching their diets. Whether they are also incorporating a GLP-1 is their business. But at least they're not stuffing their faces and calling themselves "thick" or curvy" at a size 22.

Size 22? Apparently even size is 8 is not tolerated on this board.

The same women whining about GLP1s being bad are the ones making fun of size 8 moms and saying they need to get disciplined and eat better and less and work out half the day. Women cannot win.

Please post out the post(s) where someone made fun of a size 8 mom.

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Anonymous wrote:Go for it, OP! I am 48 and also 5'7, currently at 125 thanks to my GLP-1 and I feel amazing and haven't looked this good in years. I went to a med spa for my prescription. I don't know if a real doctor would have approved me or not, as I started at 145 lbs and a normal BMI. But the med spa was supportive and wonderful - not the cheapest - and after I got comfortable, I switched to an online pharmacy and it's extremely cheap.

To answer your question - yes, you can go online and get it yourself. Many online pharmacies will support you - Ro, Hers, JoinFridays, Fifty410, Willow just to name a few. Good luck! This was one of the best things I ever did for myself. Zero regrets except I should've done it sooner.

OP here - do you think you will have to be on it for the rest of your life? Do you have zero food chatter now?

I go through phases where I will eat too much/snack on my kids food and then times when I don't eat at all because I am busy.

I had 3 very large babies and it has been a struggle to lose the last of the baby weight after gaining 60+ pounds each time.

I do weight lift and work out consistently - I am probably the strongest I have ever been. I can easily carry my 60 pound child around when needed. I just hate that I weigh so much.

My plan when I started was to lose 15 pounds and then stop. I dropped the 15 very fast. And I kept tapering down my dose until I stopped losing weight, ending up with a total weight loss of 20 lbs. I am not sure I will ever stop the med (I take less than 1/2 of the starting dose now) because I feel so amazing on it. Zero food chatter. I am devastated over all the years I wasted obsessing about food. That is gone now. I no longer have to fight with myself over what I eat, no longer count calories, no longer feel deprived. It feels like a miracle. I just never want to go back to the way I used to be, constantly plagued by hunger and fighting against it. I also have three kids, I work full time, I was thin for most of my life (as a result of constant vigilance and effort) but after Covid and the third baby I was so darn tired of fighting and that's when my weight crept up. I felt terrible about myself but hopeless about losing the weight. I, too, weight lift and work out consistently and I always have. It is a revolutionary feeling now to work out to be strong and healthy rather than think about it as a punishment for what I've eaten or as a way to work off what I've eaten. It's just so amazing to order anything I want at a restaurant and know I'm not going to overdo it. On this med, I really cannot, even if my mind wanted to - my stomach, after I've eaten, say, half of my salmon quinoa bowl, just says, nope, no more, I am totally full. Wrap it up and have it for dinner. Like, what? This was never me. The old me would have polished off the salmon bowl and started to feel SAD as I got to the bottom of it because I loved eating so much and the more food the better I felt.

If I were your friend, I would tell you to stop hating yourself. Life is too short. Give this a try, take the pressure off yourself, and feel happy again with what you see in the mirror. I do. It is such a joy to be able to slip into my size 4 jeans again. To get out of the shower and feel rather delighted at how I look. My tummy's not totally flat after 3 kids but it looks pretty darn nice. When I'm working out and I catch myself in the mirror I think oh my gosh I feel so nice. I no longer am thinking God I hate my fat thighs. And the best part is, it is not a fight and an exhausting struggle to be this way. The GLP-1 truly makes it effortless. I know I sound like an evangelist but I'm so over the moon about the impact it's had on my life that I cannot help but share my experience and encouragement when I see a post like yours. Good luck to you!

I am happy for you, but I just want to flag this - it's OK to eat a whole salmon bowl with quinoa, that is a healthy dinner. And you probably felt good because you were normally hungry and eating a healthy meal. It sounds like you may have some issues with food when you hated yourself so much only 15 lbs overweight and were sad and angry with yourself for just eating a healthy meal.

Again I'm happy for people who are finding success with these drugs but it's a fine line-

And OP asking if they have to take it forever - people who would take it forever are those who struggle with obesity as a disease and have their whole lives. It doesn't sound like that is you - you just have a few pounds to lose. That is my take anyway.

Different poster, and you’re right that a salmon bowl is healthy, but some of us just eat beyond our limits because we can’t stop even when full. That is 100% my issue. I got a healthyish bowl from chipotle for lunch today and was completely full after eating half but of course I kept going and polished it off. I was genuinely full but my brain told me to keep going until I had the feeling over overdoing it.

Chipotle is not healthy, too much seed oil and protein to carb ratio is off.

I didn’t say what I had from chipotle - it was a salad bowl with only lettuce, cheese, carnitas, fajita vegetables and salsa. No rice or beans. I can’t speak to seed oils but wouldn't call that a heavy carb meal.

Cheese

Now I need a reality check. Are people here really saying that anything with cheese on it is unhealthy?

You should check the calories, protein, carb counts in chipotle items, even the ones they label as healthy.

So now anything that doesn't have a perfect balance of macros is unhealthy? PP's meal sounds reasonably healthy to me. It must be exhausting to need to optimize every single meal and treat salad bowls like they're junk food.

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Anonymous wrote:Go for it, OP! I am 48 and also 5'7, currently at 125 thanks to my GLP-1 and I feel amazing and haven't looked this good in years. I went to a med spa for my prescription. I don't know if a real doctor would have approved me or not, as I started at 145 lbs and a normal BMI. But the med spa was supportive and wonderful - not the cheapest - and after I got comfortable, I switched to an online pharmacy and it's extremely cheap.

To answer your question - yes, you can go online and get it yourself. Many online pharmacies will support you - Ro, Hers, JoinFridays, Fifty410, Willow just to name a few. Good luck! This was one of the best things I ever did for myself. Zero regrets except I should've done it sooner.

OP here - do you think you will have to be on it for the rest of your life? Do you have zero food chatter now?

I go through phases where I will eat too much/snack on my kids food and then times when I don't eat at all because I am busy.

I had 3 very large babies and it has been a struggle to lose the last of the baby weight after gaining 60+ pounds each time.

I do weight lift and work out consistently - I am probably the strongest I have ever been. I can easily carry my 60 pound child around when needed. I just hate that I weigh so much.

My plan when I started was to lose 15 pounds and then stop. I dropped the 15 very fast. And I kept tapering down my dose until I stopped losing weight, ending up with a total weight loss of 20 lbs. I am not sure I will ever stop the med (I take less than 1/2 of the starting dose now) because I feel so amazing on it. Zero food chatter. I am devastated over all the years I wasted obsessing about food. That is gone now. I no longer have to fight with myself over what I eat, no longer count calories, no longer feel deprived. It feels like a miracle. I just never want to go back to the way I used to be, constantly plagued by hunger and fighting against it. I also have three kids, I work full time, I was thin for most of my life (as a result of constant vigilance and effort) but after Covid and the third baby I was so darn tired of fighting and that's when my weight crept up. I felt terrible about myself but hopeless about losing the weight. I, too, weight lift and work out consistently and I always have. It is a revolutionary feeling now to work out to be strong and healthy rather than think about it as a punishment for what I've eaten or as a way to work off what I've eaten. It's just so amazing to order anything I want at a restaurant and know I'm not going to overdo it. On this med, I really cannot, even if my mind wanted to - my stomach, after I've eaten, say, half of my salmon quinoa bowl, just says, nope, no more, I am totally full. Wrap it up and have it for dinner. Like, what? This was never me. The old me would have polished off the salmon bowl and started to feel SAD as I got to the bottom of it because I loved eating so much and the more food the better I felt.

If I were your friend, I would tell you to stop hating yourself. Life is too short. Give this a try, take the pressure off yourself, and feel happy again with what you see in the mirror. I do. It is such a joy to be able to slip into my size 4 jeans again. To get out of the shower and feel rather delighted at how I look. My tummy's not totally flat after 3 kids but it looks pretty darn nice. When I'm working out and I catch myself in the mirror I think oh my gosh I feel so nice. I no longer am thinking God I hate my fat thighs. And the best part is, it is not a fight and an exhausting struggle to be this way. The GLP-1 truly makes it effortless. I know I sound like an evangelist but I'm so over the moon about the impact it's had on my life that I cannot help but share my experience and encouragement when I see a post like yours. Good luck to you!

I am happy for you, but I just want to flag this - it's OK to eat a whole salmon bowl with quinoa, that is a healthy dinner. And you probably felt good because you were normally hungry and eating a healthy meal. It sounds like you may have some issues with food when you hated yourself so much only 15 lbs overweight and were sad and angry with yourself for just eating a healthy meal.

Again I'm happy for people who are finding success with these drugs but it's a fine line-

And OP asking if they have to take it forever - people who would take it forever are those who struggle with obesity as a disease and have their whole lives. It doesn't sound like that is you - you just have a few pounds to lose. That is my take anyway.

Different poster, and you’re right that a salmon bowl is healthy, but some of us just eat beyond our limits because we can’t stop even when full. That is 100% my issue. I got a healthyish bowl from chipotle for lunch today and was completely full after eating half but of course I kept going and polished it off. I was genuinely full but my brain told me to keep going until I had the feeling over overdoing it.

Chipotle is not healthy, too much seed oil and protein to carb ratio is off.

I didn’t say what I had from chipotle - it was a salad bowl with only lettuce, cheese, carnitas, fajita vegetables and salsa. No rice or beans. I can’t speak to seed oils but wouldn't call that a heavy carb meal.

Cheese

Now I need a reality check. Are people here really saying that anything with cheese on it is unhealthy?

You should check the calories, protein, carb counts in chipotle items, even the ones they label as healthy.

So now anything that doesn't have a perfect balance of macros is unhealthy? PP's meal sounds reasonably healthy to me. It must be exhausting to need to optimize every single meal and treat salad bowls like they're junk food.

Give me a break, lady. Most of America is overweight, and it's not from monitoring what they put in your mouth. No one said "optimize" but you if think paying attention to what you actually consume is "exhausting," then you are not someone to give advice on health and fitness advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Op - One of my hesitancies is being a good example for my children (who are girls). They are already worried about "being fat" and gaining weight, especially my oldest, who coincidentally is the smallest and slimmest of my children. Oldest DD is almost 12 and is only 78 pounds and as slim as you can get. But she is constantly bombarded with images and talk about being thin and not getting fat, etc. I wonder what message I am sending her if she finds out I am taking medication to lose weight. Do I tell her I am doing it to be healthy? How do you frame it so you aren't saying "I am doing this because I don't want to be fat".

But that IS why you want it. To not look fat as some women.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt you really "look" overweight at 155 and 5'7. You just don't look like a skinny 20-year-old anymore. It's natural to be very skinny in your 20s and on the higher end of normal as you approach middle age. It may even be healthy. At your age, I would focus more on gaining strength and bone health than losing weight.

A lot of the advice on this website is from women who have eating disorders or borderline disordered eating.

You sound like one of those "body positivity" types that equates any diet with anorexia.

She’s a healthy weight, she literally is not overweight, she probably wears a size medium or 8, and she doesn’t need to diet.

That's not your body. You don't get to tell other women what to do with their body.

Umm. More importantly her MD does get to tell her she won’t prescribe the drugs because OP does not meet the criteria. Lying to your MD to get an Rx is wrong.

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Celebrities do it

Are you seriously arguing that lying to your MD is okay because celebrities do it? Seriously?

If you lie on telehealth to get the meds, are you planning to lie to your primary care about taking the meds? What if you have serious side effects? What if there’s a bad reaction with other drugs you’re taking? How much lying are you willing to do?

If you have a bad reaction or side effects you can just stop taking it. I did tell my PCP. I don’t take any other meds.
Why are you so concerned about what someone else does with their body?

Because I have a college aged daughter and I see the damage that our society’s obsession with women being as small as possible does to her and her friends.

Damage?? Are her male classmates calling her a cow or something?

Seriously, you don’t know any girls with eating disorders?

I know plenty of girls who take pride in their appearance by exercising and watching their diets. Whether they are also incorporating a GLP-1 is their business. But at least they're not stuffing their faces and calling themselves "thick" or curvy" at a size 22.

Size 22? Apparently even size is 8 is not tolerated on this board.

The same women whining about GLP1s being bad are the ones making fun of size 8 moms and saying they need to get disciplined and eat better and less and work out half the day. Women cannot win.

Liar.

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Anonymous wrote:There is such a spectrum when it comes to "normal" weight and it can mean very different things for different people, depends a lot on body shape as well. You could be normal weight with a big stomach, or a slim waist.

And just because someone is at a normal weight does not mean it's their preferred weight. It's ok to want to lose 10 or 15lbs or even 20 especially if the weight gain is recent and due to peri. OP would not even be on the low end of BMI if she did that.

There’s also a lot of women with eating disorders and body dysmorphia.

Yes, they come in all shapes and sizes. Someone being 24 BMI or 21 BMI tells you nothing about either of those. Neither does whether someone wants to lose weight and go from one to the other. It's not some unreasonable, weird goal.

If someone has a BMI of 24 and thinks that they’re obese, then it’s at least suggestive for body dysmorphia. If you want to lie to your MD, spouse, and children to get a drug to lose weight, then that’s a problem. I think GLP1 drugs are amazing for people whose health is at risk from excess weight. They also pose a real risk in enabling anorexia in people with normal or even low weights. I’ve got a college aged daughter and I’ve seen too many of her friends deal with eating disorders to be sanguine about the risks of anorexia.

I read somewhere that glps are injectable anorexia and I can't get that impression out of my mind. Especially with the vanity injectors.

As someone who uses them, I totally see that. I am obese (for real, lol) so I am the target audience and it works extremely well, but it does fuel a part of my brain that wants to play games with how little I can eat and still get through the day. I think it could be really dangerous for someone who already has issues with that.

OP sounds more like a classic mom with some extra peri weight than someone with anorexia. I'm not even sure why that's been brought up here. She was a normal weight adult and still is.

DP. Some PP thinks they're really clever or something by repeatedly calling GLPs "injectable anorexia." It's super fun to add even more stigma to a medication that a lot of people need and use responsibly.

If you or a loved one was using it responsibly you’d simmer down. Women who have the comfort of anonymity and shared wealth with a spouse want to be at their 2000s weight and that is all this is. I’m so disgusted with the lying about it. IDGAF about what other people weigh, but when it becomes yet another expectation for how girls and women can stay or get perfect, it bugs. There are a lot of always alones on this website who detest women who didn’t have their specific weight issues and they are as guilty as any Hollywood moron for trying to make these an expectation for all women. So cut the sh!t.

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Anonymous wrote:There is such a spectrum when it comes to "normal" weight and it can mean very different things for different people, depends a lot on body shape as well. You could be normal weight with a big stomach, or a slim waist.

And just because someone is at a normal weight does not mean it's their preferred weight. It's ok to want to lose 10 or 15lbs or even 20 especially if the weight gain is recent and due to peri. OP would not even be on the low end of BMI if she did that.

There’s also a lot of women with eating disorders and body dysmorphia.

Yes, they come in all shapes and sizes. Someone being 24 BMI or 21 BMI tells you nothing about either of those. Neither does whether someone wants to lose weight and go from one to the other. It's not some unreasonable, weird goal.

If someone has a BMI of 24 and thinks that they’re obese, then it’s at least suggestive for body dysmorphia. If you want to lie to your MD, spouse, and children to get a drug to lose weight, then that’s a problem. I think GLP1 drugs are amazing for people whose health is at risk from excess weight. They also pose a real risk in enabling anorexia in people with normal or even low weights. I’ve got a college aged daughter and I’ve seen too many of her friends deal with eating disorders to be sanguine about the risks of anorexia.

I read somewhere that glps are injectable anorexia and I can't get that impression out of my mind. Especially with the vanity injectors.

As someone who uses them, I totally see that. I am obese (for real, lol) so I am the target audience and it works extremely well, but it does fuel a part of my brain that wants to play games with how little I can eat and still get through the day. I think it could be really dangerous for someone who already has issues with that.

OP sounds more like a classic mom with some extra peri weight than someone with anorexia. I'm not even sure why that's been brought up here. She was a normal weight adult and still is.

DP. Some PP thinks they're really clever or something by repeatedly calling GLPs "injectable anorexia." It's super fun to add even more stigma to a medication that a lot of people need and use responsibly.

If you or a loved one was using it responsibly you’d simmer down. Women who have the comfort of anonymity and shared wealth with a spouse want to be at their 2000s weight and that is all this is. I’m so disgusted with the lying about it. IDGAF about what other people weigh, but when it becomes yet another expectation for how girls and women can stay or get perfect, it bugs. There are a lot of always alones on this website who detest women who didn’t have their specific weight issues and they are as guilty as any Hollywood moron for trying to make these an expectation for all women. So cut the sh!t.

No, you cut the shit, you sanctimonious c***. Actually, I'm using it because I'm obese, pre diabetic, in cancer treatment for hormone positive breast cancer (more likely to recur/metastasize if obese) and have a family history of osteoarthritis. I hate having awful people like you spew out your "injectable anorexia" crap because people like me actually need this medication. Maybe try to be a human being for once and not a jerk. I normally wouldn't wish something awful on anyone, but I almost hope you get a condition that tends to cause obesity so you can shove your shitty attitude where the sun doesn't shine.