Ex–Google exec says degrees in law and medicine are a waste of time in the era of AI

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

Now there's a take.

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No. I value the relationship I have with my primary care physician. She follows me and coordinates my care and advocates on my behalf. I don't want AI in my care.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure. Let’s trust a person who makes his money from AI when he insists AI is the only economical path forward.

Bingo!

Not to say that AI won’t change our economy but its usefulness is being overstated.

The hype men are people who stand to profit from people buying these magical AI tools.

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

I didn’t graduate in the top 10%, but I did graduate with honors, get on law review, publish my note in the law review, and get a federal clerkship. I did not memorize for law school. I had short, well-labeled “attack outlines” in addition to longer reference outlines that were well-indexed. Most law school exams are issue-spotters. Those definitely require thought and analysis.

You think law requires thought because you’re not smart enough for high finance or front office FAANG roles. It’s a joke of an education.

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Anonymous wrote:I sense that people like Google execs will ensure they have access to high quality in-person medical visits with cream of the crop doctors and lawyers while the rest of us are told to fxk off and talk to the machine.

You don’t get it. The machine with a few years of training will be better than an inner city ER doctor. The malpractice will be much less common. Similar to how Waymo is safer than human drivers.

I'll believe it when I see the evidence for it. So far there are a lot of empty promises.

They haven’t even gotten started. Come back in five years when you’re unemployed.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I value the relationship I have with my primary care physician. She follows me and coordinates my care and advocates on my behalf. I don't want AI in my care.

Okay. Then go pay him or her a six figure salary, no one is stopping you. Let people use AI when it can do a better job 99% of the time in medicine. They won’t find the same expensive value you find in your physician.

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

Now there's a take.

If you were a decent student in HS and undergrad then you have a good career you wouldn’t leave for law school. Law attracts people who couldn’t hack it in the real world so they redline until their eyes bleed post grad.

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The first thing we do is (get rid of) all the lawyers - Shakespeare

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

Now there's a take.

If you were a decent student in HS and undergrad then you have a good career you wouldn’t leave for law school. Law attracts people who couldn’t hack it in the real world so they redline until their eyes bleed post grad.

And make millions of dollars a year? Doesn't sound so bad

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

Now there's a take.

If you were a decent student in HS and undergrad then you have a good career you wouldn’t leave for law school. Law attracts people who couldn’t hack it in the real world so they redline until their eyes bleed post grad.

OK.

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Anonymous wrote:I practice criminal law, so I'm not concerned at all.

Or any litigator.

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

Now there's a take.

If you were a decent student in HS and undergrad then you have a good career you wouldn’t leave for law school. Law attracts people who couldn’t hack it in the real world so they redline until their eyes bleed post grad.

And make millions of dollars a year? Doesn't sound so bad

You make more in PE and IB and MBB, don’t have to go back for an advanced liberal arts degree, have more interesting responsibilities, and bïtçh slap bankers to work all weekend while you PJ to st Barts. High finance>big law every day

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Well, you can pay a lawyer a lot to explain to you that relying on AI got you into the mess you are now going to pay them to help you fix, or you can pay a lawyer up front to do it right.

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Anonymous wrote:You weenies should read the article. The guy isn't saying that doctors and lawyers and scientists are obsolete. He's saying that spending half a million dollars and 3 years to memorize a ton of information already in books is a waste of money and time.

Law school involves almost no memorization, so that's another great example of AI guys thinking they understand jobs they don't do and education they didn't get. I hate the phrase "think like a lawyer" but it's an accurate description of what you learn in law school - skills not information.

There’s a ton of memorization in law school and “thinking like a lawyer” is a cheap marketing gimmick to entice 23 year olds at career crossroads to pay 150k+ to listen to smelly boomers talk about their activism in college while the Nixon got impeached. It should be an undergrad major (and it’d be an easy one), no one has to go to grad school to work at Point72 or another megafund, which requires way more intellectual firepower and training than anything in law.

All the exams in law school are open book and open notes? I literally never had a closed book exam at my T14 law school.

Those hundred page outlines of black letter law are for bad students. The top 10% have it memorized and regurgitate for the essays. There’s almost no thought involved in law school exams.

Now there's a take.

Have you seen the guarantees that rain making partners are getting these days?

If you were a decent student in HS and undergrad then you have a good career you wouldn’t leave for law school. Law attracts people who couldn’t hack it in the real world so they redline until their eyes bleed post grad.

And make millions of dollars a year? Doesn't sound so bad

You make more in PE and IB and MBB, don’t have to go back for an advanced liberal arts degree, have more interesting responsibilities, and bïtçh slap bankers to work all weekend while you PJ to st Barts. High finance>big law every day

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Anonymous wrote:Well, you can pay a lawyer a lot to explain to you that relying on AI got you into the mess you are now going to pay them to help you fix, or you can pay a lawyer up front to do it right.

lol call me in five years, assuming you still have clients and money for a phone plan. AI>you