There goes our spring break in Dubai

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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.

Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!

The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”

The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.

You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.

Actually, in some ways, they are treated better in Dubai. They are given visas and have legal work authorization, and are not forced to work under the table illegally, always subject to constant fear and deportation. They are treated more humanely in the Gulf, even if expected to work long hours.

Vegas was a really bad example. Most of th hotel staff in Vegas is unionized. There are other issues with your points but thought I’d at least make that one.

Yup, and all those women being legally trafficked and exploited so incels can have sex are in unions, so it’s great!

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine. Dubai is super safe. We lived there during Arab Spring and everything was fine. Dubai will protect tourists 100%

Remnants of a missile hit terminal 3 at the Dubai airport today (Emirates terminal, so likely lots of international travelers). 1 confirmed killed already. They’ll try to keep people safe but there’s only so much they can do.

Also the pool area of the Fairmont hotel.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-refundable with no insurance was perhaps a bold choice.

Depends on how much you travel. It we bought insurance for every trip we took we would be deep in the negative.

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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.

Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!

The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”

The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.

My father worked in the Emirates for decades and this is very, very wrong. Why do people post these things when they have no idea??

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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.

Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!

The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”

The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.

My father worked in the Emirates for decades and this is very, very wrong. Why do people post these things when they have no idea??

Oh and in case I’m not clear I mean that the Emirates is a horrible place!!

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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.

USA was built off the back of African American Slaves. Dubai was built off the back of voluntary migrants who wanted to live in Dubai because life there is a thousand times better than where they came from.

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No insurance and non-refundable seem like terrible choices for a family who can afford this trip. And this post seems pretty tone-deaf. I’m betting this is a troll.

Also this:
https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/modern-day-slavery-in-the-united-arab-emirates

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I will accept your vacation to Dubai as long as you're a racist and xenophobe who despises the lower classes everywhere and swans around in your ultra-high net worth bubble not caring one little bit about human suffering and oppression.

Because that would track, and you'd be understandable in your consistency.

But don't you dare vote for Democrats, and pretend to be a tolerant, humane person who supports diversity initiatives, and don't you dare volunteer your time and money for oppressed groups.

Do not claim to be a decent human being if you give your money to these places.

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OP you’ve gotten a lot of terrible comments, I’m sorry.

I liked Dubai, it’s fun to visit, and I think if the airspace is open by the end of March I would still go for spring break. They’ve already offered free hotel stays for everyone who is trapped and will do everything they can to keep tourists safe and business open. So, absent missiles flying like now, I would go. And, though you didn’t ask, would ask people with lots of travel experience and/or foreign service and/or expats and/or those that have lived there in person rather than DCUM in the future. Save you the crazy but offer you varied perspectives.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you’ve gotten a lot of terrible comments, I’m sorry.

I liked Dubai, it’s fun to visit, and I think if the airspace is open by the end of March I would still go for spring break. They’ve already offered free hotel stays for everyone who is trapped and will do everything they can to keep tourists safe and business open. So, absent missiles flying like now, I would go. And, though you didn’t ask, would ask people with lots of travel experience and/or foreign service and/or expats and/or those that have lived there in person rather than DCUM in the future. Save you the crazy but offer you varied perspectives.

No effing way!

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Anonymous wrote:OP you’ve gotten a lot of terrible comments, I’m sorry.

I liked Dubai, it’s fun to visit, and I think if the airspace is open by the end of March I would still go for spring break. They’ve already offered free hotel stays for everyone who is trapped and will do everything they can to keep tourists safe and business open. So, absent missiles flying like now, I would go. And, though you didn’t ask, would ask people with lots of travel experience and/or foreign service and/or expats and/or those that have lived there in person rather than DCUM in the future. Save you the crazy but offer you varied perspectives.

The comments are justified, because tourists don't get a pass. Tourists from all over the world have a long history of trying to be decent in their daily lives and then everything goes out of the window when they vacation. They give their hard-earned money to the worst places on earth with a smile, and try to come up with the most preposterous generalizations (like ones we saw here on this thread) as to why their pleasure comes first. It doesn't.

One of my BILs worked briefly in the Middle East. He didn't like it there. He saw rich sheikhs and businessmen import young women from Russia and set them up in luxury apartments, away from their families. When you see a middle aged man caress a pretty 18 year old in a tight minidress in a luxury hotel restaurant, it puts you off your dinner. It's Epstein to a degree that you can't imagine.

He went out for a jog and was pelted with stones by kids - he's Asian, not white.

Migrant economy: maids routinely get their passports confiscated and become slaves for the families they serve. They're lucky if they don't end up as sex slaves. They are largely uneducated and naive and often their own home countries willingly participate in the scheme and create career centers for these young women to apply to, who send them to the Middle East. It's state-sponsored human trafficking on BOTH ends.

You are defending OP because you partook yourself of the glitz, and are now in denial of what's underneath. I hope one day you can come to terms with the reality.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you’ve gotten a lot of terrible comments, I’m sorry.

I liked Dubai, it’s fun to visit, and I think if the airspace is open by the end of March I would still go for spring break. They’ve already offered free hotel stays for everyone who is trapped and will do everything they can to keep tourists safe and business open. So, absent missiles flying like now, I would go. And, though you didn’t ask, would ask people with lots of travel experience and/or foreign service and/or expats and/or those that have lived there in person rather than DCUM in the future. Save you the crazy but offer you varied perspectives.

The comments are justified, because tourists don't get a pass. Tourists from all over the world have a long history of trying to be decent in their daily lives and then everything goes out of the window when they vacation. They give their hard-earned money to the worst places on earth with a smile, and try to come up with the most preposterous generalizations (like ones we saw here on this thread) as to why their pleasure comes first. It doesn't.

One of my BILs worked briefly in the Middle East. He didn't like it there. He saw rich sheikhs and businessmen import young women from Russia and set them up in luxury apartments, away from their families. When you see a middle aged man caress a pretty 18 year old in a tight minidress in a luxury hotel restaurant, it puts you off your dinner. It's Epstein to a degree that you can't imagine.

He went out for a jog and was pelted with stones by kids - he's Asian, not white.

Migrant economy: maids routinely get their passports confiscated and become slaves for the families they serve. They're lucky if they don't end up as sex slaves. They are largely uneducated and naive and often their own home countries willingly participate in the scheme and create career centers for these young women to apply to, who send them to the Middle East. It's state-sponsored human trafficking on BOTH ends.

You are defending OP because you partook yourself of the glitz, and are now in denial of what's underneath. I hope one day you can come to terms with the reality.

Actually, I hope that you can one day be kind to internet strangers and believe in fully informed free choice. Because as shocking as it may be to you, people understand things and come to different decisions and conclusions.

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Can we register the American ability to hear about a world crisis thousands of miles away and rather thank god they are safe, complain about a spoiled trip? Count your blessings OP.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine. Dubai is super safe. We lived there during Arab Spring and everything was fine. Dubai will protect tourists 100%

Turn on your TV.

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I do find this an odd choice for a family vacation.How old are your kids?

On a brighter note, would insurance even reimburse you when the cause was an “act of war?” I think that is normally exempted from coverage.